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The outer surface top plies of Butterfly Inner force ALC.S is LIMBA.So, do we have a decent overview of which blades have this composition of materials now? Would be great to set them in comparison with each other.
I still havent decided on my first carbon blade, but I bought Sanwei 75 inner because I like the dimensions of the straight handle. If its true that the Butterfly Innerforce ALC.S also has koto outer plies, then this is a strong contender.
Would you be able to write a little comparison between the two blades? In particualrly I'm interested in handle thickness and vibration/feeling upon the contact with the ballI ordered the ACB together with a DHS 301Z and a couple of rubbers from Global Sports Store. With winter sale coupon, store discount and a VAT deduction (on orders over 150 € to the EU) the price was pushed down a great deal, probably under 100 €!
What rubbers would you recommend to pair with ACB?
I'm thinking either Donic Bluefire M2 or Bluestorm Z2 on both sides.
Will do!Would you be able to write a little comparison between the two blades? In particualrly I'm interested in handle thickness and vibration/feeling upon the contact with the ball
Stick to Hurricane 3 Neo BS. Unboosted get 39 deg, boosted 40 degI changed my mind and will try out some tacky chinese rubbers for FH.
What do you recommend, preferably unboosted, with the ACB and 301Z?
I'm gonna test these:
DHS H3 provincial blue sponge
Loki Rxton 3 Pro
Loki Rxton 7
Loki Rxton 9
729 Battle 2 provincial blue sponge (38,39,40?)
729 Battle 2 gold
729 Battle 2 national (38,39,40?)
729 Battle 2 Neo
729 Battle 3
729 Bloom Spin
729 Dragon Pro
Sanwei Target National 3
Depends how much power you produce. Rxton 3, 7, 9, H3 are all quite low rebound.I changed my mind and will try out some tacky chinese rubbers for FH.
What do you recommend, preferably unboosted, with the ACB and 301Z?
I'm gonna test these:
DHS H3 provincial blue sponge
Loki Rxton 3 Pro
Loki Rxton 7
Loki Rxton 9
729 Battle 2 provincial blue sponge (38,39,40?)
729 Battle 2 gold
729 Battle 2 national (38,39,40?)
729 Battle 2 Neo
729 Battle 3
729 Bloom Spin
729 Dragon Pro
Sanwei Target National 3
I was thinking going with H3 Neo Provincial orange sponge, since blue sponge cost 30% more, at least from tabletennis11. Is the orange sponge worthless unboosted?Stick to Hurricane 3 Neo BS. Unboosted get 39 deg, boosted 40 deg
Non boosted H3 or Neo blue or orange sponge doesnt matter as its your first theyre small differences. just ensure whatever is 39 degrees and provincial so its not too hard or soft and you get a good feel and quality. Try not to overthinkI was thinking going with H3 Neo Provincial orange sponge, since blue sponge cost 30% more, at least from tabletennis11. Is the orange sponge worthless unboosted?
And what about H3 Neo commercial orange sponge? Provincial blue sponge cost exactly twice as much.
This is my first ever tacky chinese rubber.
Thank you!Non boosted H3 or Neo blue or orange sponge doesnt matter as its your first theyre small differences. just ensure whatever is 39 degrees and provincial so its not too hard or soft and you get a good feel and quality. Try not to overthink
8-80 i have not tried and is apparently very good hybrid rubber that is more chinese than western (whereas 09c imo is more jap than chinese). pro 3 turbo dont bother as provincial h3 is very good quality and pro turbo is still extremely hard especially the blue. Its just a mroe consistant h3 which is what provincial also isThank you!
What about Hurricane 8-80 38 deg, Nittaku hurricane pro 3 turbo orange or Yinhe Big Dipper? Wouldn't one of them be a even better and easier transition rubber than H3 Neo?
What about this Nittaku: https://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/nittaku-hurricane-neo-3-87018-80 i have not tried and is apparently very good hybrid rubber that is more chinese than western (whereas 09c imo is more jap than chinese). pro 3 turbo dont bother as provincial h3 is very good quality and pro turbo is still extremely hard especially the blue. Its just a mroe consistant h3 which is what provincial also is
IIRC, Nittaku H3 is the closest thing to Neo H3 National orange sponge when it comes to quality. You get National quality for the price of provincial, it's awesome.What about this Nittaku: https://www.tabletennis11.com/other_eng/nittaku-hurricane-neo-3-8701
Blue is better for the long term, since it has unlimited power potential. Orange is better for BH usually. Buy from prott.vip, they sell Provincial Blue Sponge for quite a bit cheaper than TT11I was thinking going with H3 Neo Provincial orange sponge, since blue sponge cost 30% more, at least from tabletennis11. Is the orange sponge worthless unboosted?
And what about H3 Neo commercial orange sponge? Provincial blue sponge cost exactly twice as much.
This is my first ever tacky chinese rubber.
LAC is my favourite.I forgot to ask about Loki Arthur China. Could it be a good first tacky rubber?
why is orange better for BH?Blue is better for the long term, since it has unlimited power potential. Orange is better for BH usually. Buy from prott.vip, they sell Provincial Blue Sponge for quite a bit cheaper than TT11