Donic D1 rubber by ZJK

[The0rigina1]

After one session I can say it's not gonna give you that grabbing feeling from H3, maybe I'm too naive to think it would... It feels like a ZGR with longer arc, but heavier. I think I would rather play ZGR or H3 if anything

 

[Coolsta Connor]

Been seeing some videos on the Chinese web and it looks like H3 arc at mid distance with more than 09c spin, needs near effort to H3 to use, but far cheaper and greater durability and as much control as 09c.

 

[The0rigina1]

Been seeing some videos on the Chinese web and it looks like H3 arc at mid distance with more than 09c spin, needs near effort to H3 to use, but far cheaper and greater durability and as much control as 09c.

I wouldn't say far cheaper, only 100 rmb compared to dignics

 

[zeio]

Anyone know when it's getting released to the US and other countries?

Unlikely, it's an IQ tax as they call it in Chinese mainland...

 

[RPB Enthusiast]

Been seeing some videos on the Chinese web and it looks like H3 arc at mid distance with more than 09c spin, needs near effort to H3 to use, but far cheaper and greater durability and as much control as 09c.

I'm using Donic Bluegrip D1 on my FH rn unboosted and I can say the arc is similar to H3. For durability, I will have to use for a few months since I just started using it last week, and I haven't used 09c much since I prefer lower throw angle rubbers.

I wouldn't say far cheaper, only 100 rmb compared to dignics

I bought it from PPongSuper for $55 USD compared to 09c being $85-93 USD, so it definitely is much cheaper from that website.

 

[Coolsta Connor]

I'm using Donic Bluegrip D1 on my FH rn unboosted and I can say the arc is similar to H3. For durability, I will have to use for a few months since I just started using it last week, and I haven't used 09c much since I prefer lower throw angle rubbers.

I bought it from PPongSuper for $55 USD compared to 09c being $85-93 USD, so it definitely is much cheaper from that website.

Good to know, how does overall performance compare to H3 other than throw angle? Also hows the J1 on BH? If you wanna buy cheaper you can get from Taobao/a forwarder like Superbuy.

 

[RPB Enthusiast]

Good to know, how does overall performance compare to H3 other than throw angle? Also hows the J1 on BH? If you wanna buy cheaper you can get from Taobao/a forwarder like Superbuy.

I've never used Taobao, but I'll look into, thank you for the recommendation 🙂 I'm hoping D1 gets released to the US or Europe so I could buy some on discount from TT11 since they usually have J1zJ2, and J3 on sale a lot or possibly PROTT.vip since they already got Zhang Jike's blades on there.

Based on my experience with H3 vs D1 (Unboosted) on Forehand:
Spin: H3>D1
Speed: D1>H3
Blocking: H3>D1
Chopping: H3>D1
Counterlooping: H3>D1
Arc: H3>D1
Serves: H3>D1
Pushes: H3>D1

D1 gets a lot of spin, but the top sheet has less tack than H3 as well as the sponge having more bounce so they could push and attack my serves easier than with H3, but I was able to consistently loop with it and give my practice partners a lot of trouble with blocking the loops. D1 feels faster due to the sponge having more bounce and overall was easier to play with. H3 is easier to block with since the sponge really helps to kill the speed on the ball, and I didn't have to adjust my paddle angle much compared to D1. H3 has more spin with chops, but I felt that D1 was maybe slightly harder to chop with, but I think it has to do with the sponge having more bounce than H3 does. Counterloops were easier with D1 since it didn't require as much power from me, but in terms of beating out my opponent's loop, I felt H3 beat it out with more topspin, even though D1 felt faster. When looping from farther back on the table, I had to hit higher than I would normally need to with H3, and I further felt it when I was looping against long pips yesterday that if I didn't brush enough and hit higher, the ball went into the net. Both rubbers have a lot of spin on serves, but H3 beats it out especially since I was able to consistently get ghost serves with H3 while D1 I couldn't be as consistent due to the sponge being bouncier and topsheet having slightly less tack (depending on if you get a lucky H3 sheet that has good tackiness) H3 sponge really helps with making pushes shorter since the sponge helps with the deadness, but D1 was a little worse than that. Next week I'll play with D1 and J1 boosted so it should play better overall, but I'm not sure if it'll beat out H3 since the sponge really helps out with

I still need to get used to J1 on the BH because I feel the arc is higher than when I used H3 (Orange and 38° Blue Sponge) or Tenergy 05 Hard on my BH and I overshot it a few times, but my loops and flicks have good power and spin. I'll have to use it for a few months to see if I like it, otherwise I might just go back to H3 on the BH and maybe tryout 39° Blue Sponge.

 

[Coolsta Connor]

I've never used Taobao, but I'll look into, thank you for the recommendation 🙂 I'm hoping D1 gets released to the US or Europe so I could buy some on discount from TT11 since they usually have J1zJ2, and J3 on sale a lot or possibly PROTT.vip since they already got Zhang Jike's blades on there.

Based on my experience with H3 vs D1 (Unboosted) on Forehand:
Spin: H3>D1
Speed: D1>H3
Blocking: H3>D1
Chopping: H3>D1
Counterlooping: H3>D1
Arc: H3>D1
Serves: H3>D1
Pushes: H3>D1

D1 gets a lot of spin, but the top sheet has less tack than H3 as well as the sponge having more bounce so they could push and attack my serves easier than with H3, but I was able to consistently loop with it and give my practice partners a lot of trouble with blocking the loops. D1 feels faster due to the sponge having more bounce and overall was easier to play with. H3 is easier to block with since the sponge really helps to kill the speed on the ball, and I didn't have to adjust my paddle angle much compared to D1. H3 has more spin with chops, but I felt that D1 was maybe slightly harder to chop with, but I think it has to do with the sponge having more bounce than H3 does. Counterloops were easier with D1 since it didn't require as much power from me, but in terms of beating out my opponent's loop, I felt H3 beat it out with more topspin, even though D1 felt faster. When looping from farther back on the table, I had to hit higher than I would normally need to with H3, and I further felt it when I was looping against long pips yesterday that if I didn't brush enough and hit higher, the ball went into the net. Both rubbers have a lot of spin on serves, but H3 beats it out especially since I was able to consistently get ghost serves with H3 while D1 I couldn't be as consistent due to the sponge being bouncier and topsheet having slightly less tack (depending on if you get a lucky H3 sheet that has good tackiness) H3 sponge really helps with making pushes shorter since the sponge helps with the deadness, but D1 was a little worse than that. Next week I'll play with D1 and J1 boosted so it should play better overall, but I'm not sure if it'll beat out H3 since the sponge really helps out with

I still need to get used to J1 on the BH because I feel the arc is higher than when I used H3 (Orange and 38° Blue Sponge) or Tenergy 05 Hard on my BH and I overshot it a few times, but my loops and flicks have good power and spin. I'll have to use it for a few months to see if I like it, otherwise I might just go back to H3 on the BH and maybe tryout 39° Blue Sponge.

Would you consider D1 more of a tacky or hybrid rubber? Which rubber would you compare the speed to of D1? Am I right to say D1 has a low throw angle (not as much as h3, but low) with a long arc across the table? That would sound hard to play with.

 

[RPB Enthusiast]

Would you consider D1 more of a tacky or hybrid rubber? Which rubber would you compare the speed to of D1? Am I right to say D1 has a low throw angle (not as much as h3, but low) with a long arc across the table? That would sound hard to play with.

With the sheet I got, it is definitely more of a hybrid rubber since it barely picks up the ball, like Dignics 09c. I would say the speed is similar to 09c as well? It's definitely faster than H3 when you do normal drives and faster when you loop with speed, and I don't remember much on how 09c is since I only used it a few times. For me, it felt like the throw angle was a little lower since when I looped from farther, I had to aim higher to get it over the net. I will do my best to get better information in about 1 or 2 weeks since I put my last layer of booster on it and then am going to use it on Tuesday. I love low throw angle rubbers, like Hurricane 3 and Skyline 2, since I watched a lot of Xu Xin, Ma Lin, and Wang Hao videos on YouTube to improve my game. It's not available in the US (where I'm from), but I got it for $55 USD and it definitely is not as hard as other really hard rubbers I've used (such as H3N 41°&42°, VICTAS Triple Double Extra, Hybrid K3 Pro [for some reason I felt like I had no feeling when I glued it to the Tibhar Felix Lebrun Hyper Carbon blade]).

 

[Coolsta Connor]

The D1 is not fake, here ZJK shows the sponge and it is mispelt also.

 

[Attitude]

It is not a bug, it is a feature 🤣

 

[Lazer]

Made in Germany and spelled Seleted...
Mistakes like that are not made in Germany..., its a typical Chinese mistake...

Cheers
L-zr

 

[The0rigina1]

The D1 is not fake, here ZJK shows the sponge and it is mispelt also.View attachment 42279

Just say it's fake and avoid dealing with people

 

[RPB Enthusiast]

@Coolsta Connor

I've been using boosted D1 for over a week now and can say it feels faster, has more spin, and throw angle feels higher than unboosted, but it has less spin than H3 due to the sponge and tacky topsheet. Next week I'm going to be using boosted H3 on FH and boosted D1 on BH so I should be able to compare them much better. From my experience so far, the only thing D1 does better than H3 would be that it's faster, has a higher throw angle (which is what a lot of people might like if they don't like low throw angle rubbers like I do), and it's less demanding so it won't be as stressful than using H3.