Double Fish Volant-Phoenix

[Saiph]

Is VP2 37d any good for BH? How would it compare with H3N OS 37d, both boosted?

 

[olive-nguyen]

Has anyone tried this rubber? Seems like a new one. I have tried the Qiji from Double Fish and it is very impressive. I can imagine this one is good too. It goes pretty cheap on prott, for about 15USD and apparently the manufacturer states it needs no boosting. From like a quick glance it reminds me of the TDE from Victas, but who knows...

I kinda trust that Double Fish can own up to their claim and make good rubbers, but I'm just wondering if anyone has tried it.

I personally use this exact rubber in 40 degrees. It is very fast and control is quite good, and is able to generate a good amount of spin. But, it isn't very durable and isn't the best rubber for feeling the ball.

 

[Egon]

I also tried DFVP (Black 39). Excellent rubber, especially for that kind of money. You can play out of the box without booster. Dead serve reception, like Hurricane 3 and a good ball on the loop. Let's see how long this will last. My DFVP weighs 49 grams cut to 158x151 mm.

Addition from 04.06.2025.
Yesterday during the game session I got a negative result with DFVP. The rubber became hard, the dwell disappeared and I was completely unable to spin the ball normally with my forehand. Even my opponent after the game said that there is something wrong with the rubber on your forehand....
Apparently this is a classic story with Chinese rubber, which simply does not play without a booster.

 

[banbekas]

I also tried DFVP (Black 39). Excellent rubber, especially for that kind of money. You can play out of the box without booster. Dead serve reception, like Hurricane 3 and a good ball on the loop. Let's see how long this will last. My DFVP weighs 49 grams cut to 158x151 mm.

39 lasts a long time. It's the 40 that is questionable if you hit hard. Black 40 of mine bubbled after only 3 weeks.

 

[Pe-ter]

Using the DFVP2 for a very short period of time (2 weeks only) but I'm quite impressed, for 10€/rubber if Ali offers some discount, it's a reasonable rubber. Using the 35 deg on both sides. Spinny, harder than soft European rubbers, more straight, medium low arc, lots of control, medium speed would say. Great rubber for beginners, very good price/performance ratio. Have no idea if it changes once broken in, nor any remarks on the durability of the 35 deg version yet.

 

[Egon]

Using the DFVP2 for a very short period of time (2 weeks only) but I'm quite impressed, for 10€/rubber if Ali offers some discount, it's a reasonable rubber. Using the 35 deg on both sides. Spinny, harder than soft European rubbers, more straight, medium low arc, lots of control, medium speed would say. Great rubber for beginners, very good price/performance ratio. Have no idea if it changes once broken in, nor any remarks on the durability of the 35 deg version yet.

Hi! Have you tried DFVP1? Are there any differences?

 

[Pe-ter]

Hi! Have you tried DFVP1? Are there any differences?

No, unfortunately never had the DFVP1 so can't compare.

 

[Marvinn8686]

Hi! Have you tried DFVP1? Are there any differences?

I tried both recently, for me DFVP1 plays more like a typical chinese rubber for FH, while DFVP2 I use now as a cheaper substitute of hybrids on BH.
When you touch topsheet of DFVP1, it seems less tacky than i.e. Jupiter 3 Asia, but it plays similar to me. Comparing J3 Asia and DFVP1 (both H39) the throw angle is very similar and speed as well. A little slower than 729 Battle II Gold I have now installed on same blade.
All three tested on same inner carbon Yinhe Pro 05, boosted with FTL (but not much).

 

[vanjr]

DF VP was a nice rubber at first, but I tried to change blades with it and the sponge totally cracked. No booster, just light revolution speed glue. I can see it working if you have a fast carbon blade and don't change rubbers often.

 

[Amaken23]

I use it (39 degree, black colour version) on my 729 Friendship Blue ALC blade.
First of all...strange sound when contacting the ball. Does not matter to me that much, but I've never heard a sound like that. Suprisingly, lot of control even with faster FH topspins. For me, someone whose FH is far weaker than backhand and I am learning proper strokes again, it is a really good rubber. You can feel that when you do slower, more loopy strokes, ball is really spinny and drops really fast but when you do a faster stroke for more speed.....well, I can't complain for speed. It IS fast when you do a proper stroke technique. Also, tacky. Out of the package, I managed to get the ball stuck to the rubber for couple seconds before it fell.

Good for blocking for both FH and BH but you need to correct your racket angle since it WILL bounce fast if you block a fast topspin.

Not to mention price-wise, it is really cheap. 55 PLN on Aliexpress for me, so about....15 dollars ? Already bought two sheets in 39 degrees and will probably buy one more to test on my 729 Friendship Yellow ALC blade.

Also, did not boost it. For someone like me, who prefers more controlled offense and topspins, speed I can get with this rubber is more than satisfactory. My friend, who has a far better technique, gave it couple strokes and was positively suprised at the performance. He said it was more spinny but slightly slower than Tenergy 05 which he usually uses.

 

[mamedium]

so... many people complaining about a $10 rubber?

 

[Bagogo]

so... many people complaining about a $10 rubber?

Below 10$ i think

 

[Netbounce]

Hi,

I read this thread before I got VP2 in 35 and 37 for BH. Thank’s for everybody’s input. It helps a lot!

My 37 was really good, 1 thin FTL layer. Normally play G-1 and they are not that far apart. Good grip and arc. VP2 is slower but makes it up in control. I’m only intermediate but quite picky on BH, so I’m surprised to find a nice budget rubber for BH.

Where I really want to pitch in is on the possible QC issues that seem to cause the mixed reviews. You see, yesterday I took out the 35 degree VP2. I haven’t played it, but three things stood out immediately: almost no tack, 7 grams heavier uncut, and a whopping 55,5 euro degrees (around 42 Chinese degrees and the hardest rubber I have, including T05 hard, Rxton 9 and Dragon Power). I’ll still try it even though the prerequisites have changed

Stay loose!

 

[Egon]

Hi,

I read this thread before I got VP2 in 35 and 37 for BH. Thank’s for everybody’s input. It helps a lot!

My 37 was really good, 1 thin FTL layer. Normally play G-1 and they are not that far apart. Good grip and arc. VP2 is slower but makes it up in control. I’m only intermediate but quite picky on BH, so I’m surprised to find a nice budget rubber for BH.

Where I really want to pitch in is on the possible QC issues that seem to cause the mixed reviews. You see, yesterday I took out the 35 degree VP2. I haven’t played it, but three things stood out immediately: almost no tack, 7 grams heavier uncut, and a whopping 55,5 euro degrees (around 42 Chinese degrees and the hardest rubber I have, including T05 hard, Rxton 9 and Dragon Power). I’ll still try it even though the prerequisites have changed

Stay loose!

All three 39° VP1 I tried felt very hard at 42° DHS.
40° sponge is even harder, but 2 grams lighter...