Euro rubber lazy shot

[Striker_]

Ive read a couple of posts saying that with euro (soft) rubbers you can have a lazy shot. What does it look like?

 

[TTHopeful]

I think it means you will have more control. Softer rubber will have more dwell. I don't think it will look 'lazy' just a different way of playing than harder euro rubbers.

 

[Rajah*]

Hehe not literaly lazy but a much more easier way of executing strokes ?

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[Striker_]

Im bad at explaining.

I mean Ive read that you dont always have to make a perfect stroke every time you hit like with a chinese rubber. Sometimes you can just make a lazy shot and it will still go in, something like that.

 

[Paccheco]

Some soft rubbers have a strong catapult effect, therefore, counting the blade as well, you will only need to move your forearm. Like a T-Rex playing TT That would be the lzy shot i think. Something that with chinese rubber is impractible.

 

[Ilia Minkin]

They probably mean that with a hard sponge rubber, you have to brush the top of the ball to get good spin. But with softer sponge/topsheet you can have a thicker contact brushing more diagonally and still getting lots of spin and landing the ball on the table. The second stroke is "lazier" because unlike ther first one, you can make it even if you're slightly late to get into the position. However, it is not about Euro/Chinese rubber, but more about soft/hard rubber. Some "Euro" rubbers are pretty hard and demanding, while heavily boosted hard & tacky rubbers feel pretty soft.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

With a hard tacky rubber like Hurricane, if you don't take a big and full swing or you stop your followthrough, your shot will be punished because there is no catapult from the sponge until you put power into your stroke. The rubber is unforgiving if you do not fully commit to power in an offensive stroke and if your technique is not pretty solid. This also makes it so that when you do certain kinds of touch shots you can have great control, especially for the short game.

With Euro/Japanese catapult rubbers like Tenergy or any of the ESN rubbers, there are a lot of things that are actually bad technique that can still work. This is because, with the catapult of the sponge, added to the Grippy-Non-Tacky topsheet, lots of shots where the touch is not great, the racket does something funny and/the followthrough is halted and the stroke has no power, the ball can still go back with speed as though the technique was better, but without as much spin.

With the Euro/Japanese type of rubber, you can use the catapult of the sponge and the mechanical spin of the sponge+topsheet combination to make shots without full technique, or, sometimes, even, by accident.


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[NextLevel]

MY opponent' strokes(and to a lesser degree, mine) in this match are often an example of what people are talking about. When I first hit with him in the club, I couldn't believe he was getting so much out of the ball for so little effort. But it hurts in ways he doesn't realize but I hope I can help him learn over time - looping is a bit more physical than his current style makes out but Tenergy 05 hides that. He has great touch and you can't teach that though.

 

[Striker_]

Thx for the explanations. Now I understand it better.

 

[sebas-aguirre]

nobody makes long stroke movements in tt.
why?
because if you do then you can't be ready for the next shot.
it's that simple.
so the shorter your strokes the better, as long as you can get good power from them.

players using not tuned chinese rubbers need to make longer strokes in order to get power from the rubber.
this doesn't mean that it's good or that this is the correct technique.
it's just the technique these rubbers require.
if you change rubber you will need to change the technique to fit the new rubber.

thinking about it most sports do have a technique that has like a follow through movement.
think about golf and their swing, even tennis has a big follow through movement, volleyball attacks, football kicks.
tt has very short recovery time so every movement is taken to its shortest expression.

 

[kinocchio]

A long stroke is a powerstroke. If you use this near the table you must be sure what you are doing i.e. anticipate the block. You need this technique if your level of play increase. Not because you need to kill the shot. But you need to cover the distance If you play on second/ third line.

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