Experience with some other Loki rubbers - Arthur China, GTX Pro (inc)

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It's quite hard to make a photo of it due to reflection, but I tried the best I can manage right now.

It's early signs of something I have experienced with multiple Loki Rxton rubbers, where the edges are coming loose/"bubbling up".
I get it now! I will look for it on mine, i think T100 can also suffer from this. I didnt notice in my (heavy) used R9 but i will look closer
 
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I thought I would like the Telson 100 topsheet from the photos, but actually I didn't like it. It seems like it breaks easily, and it doesn't have much grip, and also I don't like the kinda pale red color. I much prefer the Moon Speed topsheet: firmer, grippier, and rich red color.
Moon Speed's topsheet is terrible, unlike the topsheet of regular Moon.
Maybe it depends on the color, but my red regular Moon lasted a very long time, and the black Moon Speed immediately began to crumble at the edges and a stain with wear appeared very quickly, while the sponge is really decent. Is it really impossible to just combine the old good topsheet with a new elastic sponge? I don't understand this
 
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After boosting the Rxton 7 and Telson 100, I tested them again. Both had only moderate reaction to booster.

However, the Rxton 7 felt more "normal" after booster. The rebound and throw angle felt better and closer to normal. I still found it unremarkable though. Sanwei Target Pro 3 and Double Fish Volant Phoenix are better, despite being much cheaper. Rxton 7 did feel very bitey though, and I felt I was getting good spin and good hold on the ball.

I haven't tried boosting LAC, but my guess is that LAC would have the same kind of moderate reaction to booster like Rxton 7.
 
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LAC boosted is a fastest LAC, that's all.

Nevertheless, you seem definitive about some rubbers whereas your judgement is almost entirely related to your game style and abilities. I compared Rxton 7 to many rubbers, and there are differences, of course, but one being better than another is almost only a question of taste.

Stating than such rubber is simply better, without any nuance, is misleading the readers. You and I are very average players, with skills and shape varying everytime we play. Without any measurement (that we can't do anyway), our opinions needs to be mitigated a little.
 
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i tried the Loki Pro GTX blue sponge
first 10 hours was weird - bouncy but soft and no arc. spin was moderate.

after that, the rubber went way too soft and the grip was almost gone

total crap rubber - don’t waste your money

i’ll stick with H3 - those alternatives are just meh

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i tried the Loki Pro GTX blue sponge
first 10 hours was weird - bouncy but soft and no arc. spin was moderate.

after that, the rubber went way too soft and the grip was almost gone

total crap rubber - don’t waste your money

i’ll stick with H3 - those alternatives are just meh

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Try treating it with a layer of booster and baby oil.

I thought it was terrible at first as well. After treating it, it was magical
 
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Stating than such rubber is simply better, without any nuance, is misleading the readers. You and I are very average players, with skills and shape varying everytime we play. Without any measurement (that we can't do anyway), our opinions needs to be mitigated a little.

That's a very good point, but your opinion, and TB's opinion and any others, is valuable. I think people extrapolate anyway. Also, that's why when I write about some rubber, I tried to compare with some other rubber (if possible), because that make it easier to relate to it. My estimation of a rubber may be very different than yours, but if I compare to some other rubber, you can extrapolate, and take something from it, even if at the end your estimation will be different...

Edit: Of course there are limits to this extrapolation. E.g I know for sure I'll never ever try STN again and some people consider it as viable H3 alternative... Some things just need to be tested ;-) Cheers.
 
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That's a very good point, but your opinion, and TB's opinion and any others, is valuable. I think people extrapolate anyway. Also, that's why when I write about some rubber, I tried to compare with some other rubber (if possible), because that make it easier to relate to it. My estimation of a rubber may be very different than yours, but if I compare to some other rubber, you can extrapolate, and take something from it, even if at the end your estimation will be different...

Edit: Of course there are limits to this extrapolation. E.g I know for sure I'll never ever try STN again and some people consider it as viable H3 alternative... Some things just need to be tested ;-) Cheers.
Well I try my best to be objective and explain clearly why I think a rubber is good or bad.

For rxton 7: objectively it is double the price of other rubbers, and in my testing i found that the ball lands short and low with low rebound. This became better with booster. Overall not as powerful as big dipper or jupiter 3. I feel it plays like unboosted B2.

Still at the end of the day, its still my opinion and experience.
 
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Well I try my best to be objective and explain clearly why I think a rubber is good or bad.

For rxton 7: objectively it is double the price of other rubbers, and in my testing i found that the ball lands short and low with low rebound. This became better with booster. Overall not as powerful as big dipper or jupiter 3. I feel it plays like unboosted B2.

Still at the end of the day, its still my opinion and experience.
For me, the Rxton 7 plays like a slightly slower version of the Rxton 9.
I agree with you that the Rxton 7 feels very bitey.
Speed is ok. Just enough for me that I won't be boosting it. Spin is good (more than LAC).
For 20€ you can't really go wrong with this rubber.
 
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For me, the Rxton 7 plays like a slightly slower version of the Rxton 9.
I agree with you that the Rxton 7 feels very bitey.
Speed is ok. Just enough for me that I won't be boosting it. Spin is good (more than LAC).
For 20€ you can't really go wrong with this rubber.
Chinese reviewers i saw seem to conclude that Red Rxton 7 37º is quite competitive and suitable for BH, Black Rxton 7 39º easy to use on FH but Rxton 9 is overall better
 
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Chinese reviewers i saw seem to conclude that Red Rxton 7 37º is quite competitive and suitable for BH, Black Rxton 7 39º easy to use on FH but Rxton 9 is overall better
I tried the 39d, and I tried it for both FH and BH. Maybe 37 is bouncier? i don't know.
I still think boosted Big Dipper or GTX is most similar to D09c

I'm curious to try Rxton 9 sometime soon. My friend just ordered it, so maybe i'll test his paddle soon.
 
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Not everybody needs or wants an equivalent of D09c on its backhand. Some want something bouncier, with more dwell time or whatever other characteristics.

IMO, Rxton 7 in other hardness than 37º is useless. FH needs are covered by any other Rxton or Arthur China/Asia. Rxton 7 37º is a Arthur China designed for BH. Try it like that.

Backhand is my best skill. My BH is 3 or 4 level higher than my FH, so I'm more sensitive to difference on BH than on FH (that's why on FH I can play equally good with LAC, Bd, Jupiter 3, Moon 12...). I would have probably eliminated R7 39º. But please, don't judge the rubber only on this hardness. And use it for BH.
 
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Just played my first local league game with the Rxton 7 39 on my FH. Blade is a Dr. Neubauer Matador Texa Carbon, BH is Yinhe 955 Blue 0.7.

It's been a long time that I had such fun playing with a rubber again. It does everything well for me, serving feels amazing, from flat and fast to slow and spinny. Receive is comfortable, only thing that would make it better was a little more bounce for pushes.

Loads of control, great for just placing balls across the table, easy to open up and counterspin with. Bit more bounce/arc would make it ideal, to help with pushes and lower speed blocks, but I will take this all day long over my previous fav the Battle 3.
 
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Just played my first local league game with the Rxton 7 39 on my FH. Blade is a Dr. Neubauer Matador Texa Carbon, BH is Yinhe 955 Blue 0.7.

It's been a long time that I had such fun playing with a rubber again. It does everything well for me, serving feels amazing, from flat and fast to slow and spinny. Receive is comfortable, only thing that would make it better was a little more bounce for pushes.

Loads of control, great for just placing balls across the table, easy to open up and counterspin with. Bit more bounce/arc would make it ideal, to help with pushes and lower speed blocks, but I will take this all day long over my previous fav the Battle 3.
How are the differences between battle 3 and rxton 7?

Which has more arc, rebound, bite?
 
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How are the differences between battle 3 and rxton 7?

Which has more arc, rebound, bite?
On my blade I'd say the arc of the B3 is higher, but not a lot. R7 overall softer and giving more time on the ball.

B3 has a bit more rebound/bounce, so I think overall it was a bit easier to use on the passive shots, pushes and blocks. However on all strokes where you get the sponge engaged, the Rxton 7 was more comfortable to use to me
 
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Tonight I tested Telson 100 47,5º on my Yinhe Pro 05, on the BH.

Arc on short strokes is lower than Rxton 7. This made me do some net errors from time to time, trying to slap the ball, or when looping slowly returning serves. On that aspects, I prefer Rxton 7.

His greatest quality is it's ability to play from mid and long range. I made insane rallies in total confidence.

I could not really test for blocks, because my opponent was smothered by my play, and could almost never attack.

Its a pity that the only player than can beat me in my club are never there to play, I can't test my equipment and myself in difficult conditions...

I still have some rubbers to test (Mantra Pro M, GoldArc 8, Codexx) but I think that Rxton 7 or Telson 100 will be my BH weapon of choice.
 
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