Feedback on my League games

[Zezima]

i only watched the match against the girl so far and in the first set you were really timid and passive. Did you think that you would win anyways or did you feel ill or that you lack energy ? There were quite some situations where you pushed long to your wide backhand and instead of moving 50cm to the left and looping it, you lazily leaned to the left and chopped it back instead of attacking.

I actually liked how she played because she did "the right shots" even though she failed to execute them at times, but she kept using offensive strokes regardless, not falling back pushing or chopping even after failing to backhand flip sometimes.

yeah in terms of activity that game is the worst one to watch. But as I said in the description of the video - I honestly didn't really feel that I have to do anything in that game. She just gave me free points so I was never pressured to do anything. It was my third and last game aswell. I just wanted to win casually I guess.

I would recommend watching the other 2 games for more quality and they were more interesting anyway imo

 

[jk1980]

Günter is an interesting opponent, because he seems like he is favoring his backhand. He sometimes even used backhand block on a ball that would come more to this forehand.

I see that at first you got issues with his "Kirmesaufschlag" (that is what i call this wiper serve that rotates inward from his position). This with this serve is that the way he has his rubber facing you, whatever motion he does, it will never be strong spin and is mostly a counter ball that you can attack and ought not to push. His motion is just deceiving the opponent into thinking it is heavy spin, while the spin is negligible. Without tangential hit of the ball you simply can not impart good spin. in the later sets you actually attacked these serves (even though you sometimes pivoted and looped with the forehand which leaves you more vulnerable than just using backhand) which was good. I think you would have more stability backhand looping them if they come to your backhand, because you dont need to move that much before and can choose the correct positioning easier.

one noticable thing of Günther is that you see that he "knows" what he is capable of and does not fall back to "afraid chicken"-mode when he misses a backhand loop. He will not switch to pushing the next ball to his backhand but simply try again and succeed most of the time. That is something that younger players defintely should copy from veterans. Dont start to play bullshit push games because you failed to loop once.

at 04:27 I see you tried to counter his kirmes serve to your forehand instead of looping it, which went far and wide. Do you remember the game where i started to push topspin serves that i did attack successfully in the first set ? i dont know what the reason is. do we become complacent and think we can return the serve with a more energy efficient way? its really odd and i think this is not exclusive to the both of us but many players will revert to different/alternative strokes even when ones successfully attacking before. I see you did loop a few of those serves successfully and then you fall back into trying to counter or push them which fails.

This was a close game and even though you struggled to use the right stroke on about 40% of these serves of his i personally think that Guenter threw this one away. Iirc he had at least 2 services mistakes giving you free paints per set.

 

[jk1980]

Wolfgang was quite a good opponent and i think it could have gone any way (disregarding the point difference in the last set). I think the most positive you can take back from these three games is that you did not seem like you would have issues switching to your new blade and you were as comfortable as before; at least that is what it looked like.

How did you feel?

 

[Zezima]

Günter is an interesting opponent, because he seems like he is favoring his backhand. He sometimes even used backhand block on a ball that would come more to this forehand.

I see that at first you got issues with his "Kirmesaufschlag" (that is what i call this wiper serve that rotates inward from his position). This with this serve is that the way he has his rubber facing you, whatever motion he does, it will never be strong spin and is mostly a counter ball that you can attack and ought not to push. His motion is just deceiving the opponent into thinking it is heavy spin, while the spin is negligible. Without tangential hit of the ball you simply can not impart good spin. in the later sets you actually attacked these serves (even though you sometimes pivoted and looped with the forehand which leaves you more vulnerable than just using backhand) which was good. I think you would have more stability backhand looping them if they come to your backhand, because you dont need to move that much before and can choose the correct positioning easier.

one noticable thing of Günther is that you see that he "knows" what he is capable of and does not fall back to "afraid chicken"-mode when he misses a backhand loop. He will not switch to pushing the next ball to his backhand but simply try again and succeed most of the time. That is something that younger players defintely should copy from veterans. Dont start to play bullshit push games because you failed to loop once.

at 04:27 I see you tried to counter his kirmes serve to your forehand instead of looping it, which went far and wide. Do you remember the game where i started to push topspin serves that i did attack successfully in the first set ? i dont know what the reason is. do we become complacent and think we can return the serve with a more energy efficient way? its really odd and i think this is not exclusive to the both of us but many players will revert to different/alternative strokes even when ones successfully attacking before. I see you did loop a few of those serves successfully and then you fall back into trying to counter or push them which fails.

This was a close game and even though you struggled to use the right stroke on about 40% of these serves of his i personally think that Guenter threw this one away. Iirc he had at least 2 services mistakes giving you free paints per set.

Yeah he is not someone who relies on his forehand to win points. He has a good backhand active block (even parallel) that he uses a lot.

It is very deceiving maybe from this angle but he has a lot of spin on the ball. I don't know how he does it but I can't just loop it as if it has only sidespin. He also varies between slight topspin (here I think I agree that he can't generate lots of topspin) but when it comes to sidebackspin they are heavy.
Sometimes I tried to just use the pace he gave me and just lift the ball back. I am currently not good enough to loop long fast sidebackspin serves.

That 4.27 was just me holding the racket and angling it right but it still flew off the table lol. I think that was his sidetopspin serve and I hit it too much at the bottom of the ball aswell.
So for me it was just a Plan B to receive the ball that way because I knew 90% I wouldn't be able to loop such a serve with success.
Yep he kept trying and trying which tbh all 3 of them did. None of them chickened out and tried to play more "secure".
When you compare them to my playstyle you can clearly see that I change the rythm play long high drives to make them insecure on how much spin I put on the ball and overall I know it's hard to attack such a ball. I block soft or just go hard. There is basically no rythm. Even I don't know when I watch myself what my next move will be. If I am gonna play a passive shot or attack it.

Wolfgang was quite a good opponent and i think it could have gone any way (disregarding the point difference in the last set). I think the most positive you can take back from these three games is that you did not seem like you would have issues switching to your new blade and you were as comfortable as before; at least that is what it looked like.

How did you feel?

Yep played him the 3rd time now. 3-2 always one time to 8 and the other to 9.
This time I found the right pace to play against him.
No I actually think I played much better with more confidence. Especially when I went hard during the rally. I played some really good hard backhands (parallel even) same with FH he struggled to block them. Passive game was also really good with just blocking. As if I had played for years with this setup. So overall very happy and will keep this setup for next season aswell

 

[Zezima]

Also something worth noting. Vs Virag I had instant winners with the short sidetopspin serve into her FH. Against Wolfgang and Günter it didn't work at all.
I thought I would give it a try.
But for next season I want to work on my serves. Some serves of mine look illegal from this angle. Not sure if my arm is hiding the ball or if my toss is good enough

 

[dingyibvs]

Alright played my final games for this Season with my new W968-2 Blade!:
I don't know how you guys will see the games but I think this was the best I have played in the entire season (not just saying because I won or because of the blade) I played some really nasty backhands and forehands that felt really good to finally show it in actual matches aswell.
Only struggeled against Günter.
Wolfgang played 15+ years a league above this one - so a veteran and technically could have played there this year aswell if they didn't have a new addition that was younger. Same with Günter even though not as many times as Wolfgang but you can see his skill is still pretty good especially his serves and over the table.

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if you are interested in my thoughts about each game - I put my comments in the description of each game (in german) So you can just use a translator.

Hope you like my performance and yes I know I couldn't implement all the things we had discussed over the past months here. But I could still feel some improvement. Excited to hear your thoughts. I have 6 Months no League game for now, so will be just training and thinking about my future (if I should change the club and join some other there are 3 teams that come in to my mind that I could ask (to play in the higher league - we ended up 6th this season so no promotion)
Here the standings - I ended up 3rd Place quite happy about that:

You're continuing to improve! Look at how flustered Wolfgang gets. He has zero ability to continuously attack on the BH side, yet he continues to force it because he knows if he just blocks your block back then you'll seize on the opportunity and counter attack. He tries to pivot but he's not quick enough, he tries to reloop with his BH which he can't hit, he tried to BH counter which is too slow to score, and he tried to back off the table to reloop which increases the land rate but decreases the power/angles and still can't score. Must be frustrating for him

Gunther was more straight forward. He has no FH so once you figured out his windshield wiper serve it was all over. His blocks creates some issues for you as you're often a bit too far from the table, but he still blocks or at most counters when you block high, and then the distance didn't matter much and you can still counter attack.

The lady has good technique, but her accuracy is atrocious when she has to step up her power which is needed to get past your defense. If she can develop and hit those more accurately, which shouldn't take too much practice, she can give you a lot more trouble. I can see her improving rather quickly if she works on the right things.

 

[Zezima]

You're continuing to improve! Look at how flustered Wolfgang gets. He has zero ability to continuously attack on the BH side, yet he continues to force it because he knows if he just blocks your block back then you'll seize on the opportunity and counter attack. He tries to pivot but he's not quick enough, he tries to reloop with his BH which he can't hit, he tried to BH counter which is too slow to score, and he tried to back off the table to reloop which increases the land rate but decreases the power/angles and still can't score. Must be frustrating for him

Gunther was more straight forward. He has no FH so once you figured out his windshield wiper serve it was all over. His blocks creates some issues for you as you're often a bit too far from the table, but he still blocks or at most counters when you block high, and then the distance didn't matter much and you can still counter attack.

The lady has good technique, but her accuracy is atrocious when she has to step up her power which is needed to get past your defense. If she can develop and hit those more accurately, which shouldn't take too much practice, she can give you a lot more trouble. I can see her improving rather quickly if she works on the right things.

Günter has a FH would need to watch it again was he doing so many mistakes there lol. Because his serve is also forcing him to use his backhand more in case I would push it back (because of his sidespin).

When playing against her I also thought she has "good technique" but after watching the video I don't think so anymore. Her racket angle isn't stable when looping with the backhand. She goes from open to closed back angle during shot (extreme). She has no stable technique to loop long balls to the backhand (because of the racket folding)
Also on her Forehand she loops more upwards than forwards. She has no power this way and it goes off the table a lot.
Struggles a lot when someone loops with a bit spin. She tries to counter them but I think you need to learn blocking them first and then as a next step you can try to counter. This way I just knew if I loop a bit spinny I win the point.

What I really liked about her when watching the video after was her footwork. I mean she is "tiny" light etc. so that also helps but also the fact she moves "right" most of the time atleast. Also when receiving serve (which I am practising just recently to make these preparation steps) she is doing it already. Just before I hit the serve she already moves. Sure she has no strong shot to receive but as you said that could come later. She was RC1200 a few months ago.

My brother also received his Rakza Z FH sheet on his FZD ALC. I tried it out yesterday a bit. Kinda weird that I can do all the shots that I can do with my own blade. Just felt a bit slow and probably less spin. It had low trajectory. But was controlled. Felt like I could loop for ages. But I am not gonna change my setup for now I really liked everything about my setup in these 3 games. I also see more potential with my setup moving forwards.
Also what would you guys do in my position? Play again in the same League in my club. Or try and ask the team of ess + neft because they are appearently looking for a 3rd Member for Landesliga (they got 2nd place so they got promoted) I just heard a bit of negativity about ess that he might get unsymphatetic to his opponents when playing against them. But I didn't see any bad behaviour other than that one time against me when he shouted that the others who were talking loud in the background to shut up lol. There is also another team but they are a bit further away like 35min~ but I prefer the closer one (~15-20min). And the 3rd option is stay where I am here. But with me being 3rd place and Ess and Neft gone I have only 1 player that beat me lately in the league.

My current team might get relegated without me but I have to think about myself aswell I think. Can't reach 1600RC by playing in this league and training with RC1200

 

[NetProphet]

What I really liked about her when watching the video after was her footwork. I mean she is "tiny" light etc. so that also helps but also the fact she moves "right" most of the time atleast. Also when receiving serve (which I am practising just recently to make these preparation steps) she is doing it already. Just before I hit the serve she already moves. Sure she has no strong shot to receive but as you said that could come later. She was RC1200 a few months ago.

I noticed this too, very good movement. She reminds me a lot of a lady that plays at our club (higher leagues) who bounces around the table so effortlessly, it's a joy to watch.

Also what would you guys do in my position? Play again in the same League in my club. Or try and ask the team of ess + neft because they are appearently looking for a 3rd Member for Landesliga (they got 2nd place so they got promoted) I just heard a bit of negativity about ess that he might get unsymphatetic to his opponents when playing against them. But I didn't see any bad behaviour other than that one time against me when he shouted that the others who were talking loud in the background to shut up lol. There is also another team but they are a bit further away like 35min~ but I prefer the closer one (~15-20min). And the 3rd option is stay where I am here. But with me being 3rd place and Ess and Neft gone I have only 1 player that beat me lately in the league.

Imo you need to play up if you want to improve so if I were you I'd go to the other club for the season, practice with those better players and see if you can win this lge nxt season. You will improve more quickly and that's obviously what you're looking for given all the videos you've posted and advise you've taken on.
It's hard to leave and you may not 'enjoy' it as much straight away but remembering why you're there and charting your progress should make it worthwhile.
You can always just 'play' with your old club a few times a month anyway I'm presume and keep those old connections.

My current team might get relegated without me but I have to think about myself aswell I think. Can't reach 1600RC by playing in this league and training with RC1200

Hanging around the same club is fine if you're only playing for fun but if you want challenge and progress then you gotta make the jump.
I'd say do it now while your still young, fit, free and all that cos you might not have the chance in the yrs ahead.

 

[dingyibvs]

Günter has a FH would need to watch it again was he doing so many mistakes there lol. Because his serve is also forcing him to use his backhand more in case I would push it back (because of his sidespin).

When playing against her I also thought she has "good technique" but after watching the video I don't think so anymore. Her racket angle isn't stable when looping with the backhand. She goes from open to closed back angle during shot (extreme). She has no stable technique to loop long balls to the backhand (because of the racket folding)
Also on her Forehand she loops more upwards than forwards. She has no power this way and it goes off the table a lot.
Struggles a lot when someone loops with a bit spin. She tries to counter them but I think you need to learn blocking them first and then as a next step you can try to counter. This way I just knew if I loop a bit spinny I win the point.

What I really liked about her when watching the video after was her footwork. I mean she is "tiny" light etc. so that also helps but also the fact she moves "right" most of the time atleast. Also when receiving serve (which I am practising just recently to make these preparation steps) she is doing it already. Just before I hit the serve she already moves. Sure she has no strong shot to receive but as you said that could come later. She was RC1200 a few months ago.

My brother also received his Rakza Z FH sheet on his FZD ALC. I tried it out yesterday a bit. Kinda weird that I can do all the shots that I can do with my own blade. Just felt a bit slow and probably less spin. It had low trajectory. But was controlled. Felt like I could loop for ages. But I am not gonna change my setup for now I really liked everything about my setup in these 3 games. I also see more potential with my setup moving forwards.
Also what would you guys do in my position? Play again in the same League in my club. Or try and ask the team of ess + neft because they are appearently looking for a 3rd Member for Landesliga (they got 2nd place so they got promoted) I just heard a bit of negativity about ess that he might get unsymphatetic to his opponents when playing against them. But I didn't see any bad behaviour other than that one time against me when he shouted that the others who were talking loud in the background to shut up lol. There is also another team but they are a bit further away like 35min~ but I prefer the closer one (~15-20min). And the 3rd option is stay where I am here. But with me being 3rd place and Ess and Neft gone I have only 1 player that beat me lately in the league.

My current team might get relegated without me but I have to think about myself aswell I think. Can't reach 1600RC by playing in this league and training with RC1200

I think you should move up. You're making steady progress, so I think you need to play against people who can force you to continue to improve and train with people who are more motivated to improve. I can believe that girl has been improving fast. She has good footwork, body usage, and timing. She'll figure out the correct racket height and the angle with some more experience. Like how she needs someone like you who'd return more of her shots and force her to improve her reloop abilities, you also need to play better players who'll push you to be better.

 

[Zezima]

I noticed this too, very good movement. She reminds me a lot of a lady that plays at our club (higher leagues) who bounces around the table so effortlessly, it's a joy to watch.

Imo you need to play up if you want to improve so if I were you I'd go to the other club for the season, practice with those better players and see if you can win this lge nxt season. You will improve more quickly and that's obviously what you're looking for given all the videos you've posted and advise you've taken on.
It's hard to leave and you may not 'enjoy' it as much straight away but remembering why you're there and charting your progress should make it worthwhile.
You can always just 'play' with your old club a few times a month anyway I'm presume and keep those old connections.

Hanging around the same club is fine if you're only playing for fun but if you want challenge and progress then you gotta make the jump.
I'd say do it now while your still young, fit, free and all that cos you might not have the chance in the yrs ahead.

Imo you need to play up if you want to improve so if I were you I'd go to the other club for the season, practice with those better players and see if you can win this lge nxt season.

Which League do you mean? I mean Ess is good and Neft and me are around same level. If I switch to them (if they say yes for me to join them) we would be ~5-6 somewhere in the middle of the League. So nowhere near winning. And we have our 2nd Team that got promoted to 1.Klasse (same as the one I played this year). So Now we have 2 teams playing in the same league. The higher team will gain 4+4 = 8 Points while the other will get 0Points for 0 Games. So it will be even harder for them to keep both teams in the league. But its very likely to keep the first team in the league atleast. Even with me it would be difficult to keep both teams not relegated. Since with my very good performance we could barely reach 6th place.

I agree with your points. It just feels difficult to leave a club you started playing, even if I can come train with them aswell. I am also not sure and feel like they barely train over there. Also not sure how they train if they just do matches etc. I will try to invite Neft. our club so we can train and I learn how he trains and generally talk about my situation etc.
Because as you said Id like to improve and reach as high as possible. And that would take 2 years atleast if I stay in this club.

@dingyibvs
and train with people who are more motivated to improve.

Thats the thing they are also not really motivated to improve. I mean Ess is what maybe 45-55 something I would assume with knee issues? Even he said he doesn't train at all. No clue about Neft. But Ess was like maybe you can train with Neft. And then I asked Neft and he was like sure I can come to your club so we exchanged numbers but since then (3 weeks ago) didn't hear anything from him. He is probably around my age but I don't think he has the same motivation as me. I don't think anyone at my level has the motivation to improve. Probably most hit just their plateau and gave up and just come to show up.

Actually this girl Virag my age and she has much better trainingspartners training a lot with Wolfgang and so on appearently. She also plays in the Female 2. Bundesliga appearently they are 2nd - maybe getting promoted.

 

[Zezima]

I also want to share this video with you guys. I want to try this out in the off season now since I don't like my forehand technique at all.

 

[NextLevel]

I also want to share this video with you guys. I want to try this out in the off season now since I don't like my forehand technique at all.

I liked the video but there is nothing special here, this is forehand topspin vs backspin 101, the student just missed a major lesson in his initial lessons to loop backspin. When looping backspin, it is important to fight the rotation of the ball and this is where the wrist is extremely important. Because wrist usage is inherent in many backhand strokes, many people get spinnier balls on backhand than forehand. But it is just as important, especially for looping backspin, on the forehand as well. I tell people all the time, when looping decent/heavy backspin, focus on turning the ball even if you want to hit it hard, because if you hit it without a rotation focus, the ball will usually not get picked up.

 

[Zezima]

I liked the video but there is nothing special here, this is forehand topspin vs backspin 101, the student just missed a major lesson in his initial lessons to loop backspin. When looping backspin, it is important to fight the rotation of the ball and this is where the wrist is extremely important. Because wrist usage is inherent in many backhand strokes, many people get spinnier balls on backhand than forehand. But it is just as important, especially for looping backspin, on the forehand as well. I tell people all the time, when looping decent/heavy backspin, focus on turning the ball even if you want to hit it hard, because if you hit it without a rotation focus, the ball will usually not get picked up.

Did you compare it to my forehand topspin? It just looks more "clean" and more controlled than how I play the stroke

 

[NextLevel]

Did you compare it to my forehand topspin? It just looks more "clean" and more controlled than how I play the stroke

It's often a mistake to compare strokes unless you have something very specific related to the stroke in mind. Different physical builds, different sources of strength, different focuses on balancing two-winged play etc. all affect the stroke. I would encourage you to just see whether your forehand enables you to get something out of the dimensions of good TT: spin, speed, placement, variation, deception, consistency, recovery, adaptability, safety (not causing injury). Focus on that and not so much on how your forehand looks unless you think that focusing on how it looks will add something that it doesn't currently have along those dimensions. There are tradeoffs in everything.

Now if you are talking about getting relatively low vs backspin and spinning the ball up fluidly, that is forehand topspin vs backspin 101 as well, using the wrist whip to match the speed of the rotation and playing more forward once you can do this. But some people can't get really low (I am one of them) and may compensate in other ways. You can add somethings from the textbook to find a better balance, but looking more clean and controlled than Quadri Aruna will not make your forehand necessarily better than Quadri Aruna.

 

[Zezima]

It's often a mistake to compare strokes unless you have something very specific related to the stroke in mind. Different physical builds, different sources of strength, different focuses on balancing two-winged play etc. all affect the stroke. I would encourage you to just see whether your forehand enables you to get something out of the dimensions of good TT: spin, speed, placement, variation, deception, consistency, recovery, adaptability, safety (not causing injury). Focus on that and not so much on how your forehand looks unless you think that focusing on how it looks will add something that it doesn't currently have along those dimensions. There are tradeoffs in everything.

Now if you are talking about getting relatively low vs backspin and spinning the ball up fluidly, that is forehand topspin vs backspin 101 as well, using the wrist whip to match the speed of the rotation and playing more forward once you can do this. But some people can't get really low (I am one of them) and may compensate in other ways. You can add somethings from the textbook to find a better balance, but looking more clean and controlled than Quadri Aruna will not make your forehand necessarily better than Quadri Aruna.

Good point for me right now the biggest Problem is consistency.When I do hit my forehand I have good amount of spin (people that I face struggle to block) I just do many mistakes hitting the ball wrong aka flat. Like not applying enough Topspin. If you watch my games I rarely play a good forehand topspin stroke. Even if I am sometimes in position I don't trust my ability in that situation to loop in a way that it will land on the table. I have to pick very specific balls to attack. So that's my goal. That I get less picky about the balls I want to loop. I just want to loop based on my position to the ball and be so confident that after landing the stroke I want to concentrate on my position on the table again and not watch if the ball is gonna land or not. I think this will make my anticipation better and move me up a level.

Edit1: I can confidently loop backspin on the table but it lacks power. I just loop it safely which is fine for now but I wanna move to the next step now.

 

[NetProphet]

I also want to share this video with you guys. I want to try this out in the off season now since I don't like my forehand technique at all.

Great video, I actually follow his channel so I watched it last night. I hope he has Joze back again, he has a nice way of explaining things.

 

[NextLevel]

Good point for me right now the biggest Problem is consistency.When I do hit my forehand I have good amount of spin (people that I face struggle to block) I just do many mistakes hitting the ball wrong aka flat. Like not applying enough Topspin. If you watch my games I rarely play a good forehand topspin stroke. Even if I am sometimes in position I don't trust my ability in that situation to loop in a way that it will land on the table. I have to pick very specific balls to attack. So that's my goal. That I get less picky about the balls I want to loop. I just want to loop based on my position to the ball and be so confident that after landing the stroke I want to concentrate on my position on the table again and not watch if the ball is gonna land or not. I think this will make my anticipation better and move me up a level.

Edit1: I can confidently loop backspin on the table but it lacks power. I just loop it safely which is fine for now but I wanna move to the next step now.

By all means, improve your strokes, even players with perfect strokes need to work on improving their strokes. You have the problem statement laid out, you want to be able to attack more balls with your forehand. I am just saying that don't make this about how the stroke "looks" but figure out what might be preventing you from attacking them. Also, your intuitive read on playing safe might be more correct than you realize. Power is only as good as the inability of the opponent to control it and the ability of you to recover from it.

Since I never really had footwork for more than a one month period before my knees gave out, my focus is always how I swing at the ball and trying to adjust how I swing at the ball. Did my stroke start too low or too high? Did I hit the ball too much on the top, back side bottom etc. Did I follow through appropriately? Did I place the ball well? If I was in position, why didn't I take the shot? When I take the shot, what happens? Since my game is based on adjustment, I just try stuff and then adjust it over time. I try to avoid thinking I know what will happen when I try something. Because I play with a lot of spin, my game is slow to players at my level, but my consistency is not doubted. TRying to add a drive element and take more risk is slowly coming into my game, but in the end, a lot of it is limited by my fitness level.

But very little of this is related to how my stroke "looks". Sometimes it looks amazing and smooth to some people, other times, they say I lack body rotation. In the end, the best stroke is the one that puts the ball on the table, wins the point and avoids injury, Appearance has little to do with that.

 

[Zezima]

By all means, improve your strokes, even players with perfect strokes need to work on improving their strokes. You have the problem statement laid out, you want to be able to attack more balls with your forehand. I am just saying that don't make this about how the stroke "looks" but figure out what might be preventing you from attacking them. Also, your intuitive read on playing safe might be more correct than you realize. Power is only as good as the inability of the opponent to control it and the ability of you to recover from it.

Since I never really had footwork for more than a one month period before my knees gave out, my focus is always how I swing at the ball and trying to adjust how I swing at the ball. Did my stroke start too low or too high? Did I hit the ball too much on the top, back side bottom etc. Did I follow through appropriately? Did I place the ball well? If I was in position, why didn't I take the shot? When I take the shot, what happens? Since my game is based on adjustment, I just try stuff and then adjust it over time. I try to avoid thinking I know what will happen when I try something. Because I play with a lot of spin, my game is slow to players at my level, but my consistency is not doubted. TRying to add a drive element and take more risk is slowly coming into my game, but in the end, a lot of it is limited by my fitness level.

But very little of this is related to how my stroke "looks". Sometimes it looks amazing and smooth to some people, other times, they say I lack body rotation. In the end, the best stroke is the one that puts the ball on the table, wins the point and avoids injury, Appearance has little to do with that.

I actually tried it yesterday (the exercise with 5 different speeds to loop) And focusing on the Wrist follow through. Maybe it was just a fluke but I don't remember the last time I had this much control when looping.

In the matches later on something new happened where if I looped I was so surprised how good it was that I actually stopped playing a few times thinking the point is over anyway. I can also get this arc on my forehand topspin which I only had when doing backhand topspins. Even when going faster about level 5(level 1 is very slow) I could hit it with the follow through on the wrist. I am pretty sure I didn't do this before because I don't remember that feeling.

As you said it's not per se the looks but how it feels and if you can apply the topspin on the ball.

I will also have a talk with the club about my future. I had a little talk yesterday with one of them and he said he understands me and that we should talk about the your future and the clubs future together etc. That he really likes me, loved playing with me and that he is gonna be very sad if I leave... Too bad the other youth player went out on a loan this season so we couldn't play for promotion. Then I wouldn't need to make this decision. He agreed it was a mistake letting him go - well let's see I will have this talk tomorrow or next week.. Switching to the team(in case I do really go) that is less sympathetic than my current team just for the sake of game quality also feels weird.

 

[NetProphet]

I actually tried it yesterday (the exercise with 5 different speeds to loop) And focusing on the Wrist follow through. Maybe it was just a fluke but I don't remember the last time I had this much control when looping.

In the matches later on something new happened where if I looped I was so surprised how good it was that I actually stopped playing a few times thinking the point is over anyway. I can also get this arc on my forehand topspin which I only had when doing backhand topspins. Even when going faster about level 5(level 1 is very slow) I could hit it with the follow through on the wrist. I am pretty sure I didn't do this before because I don't remember that feeling.

As you said it's not per se the looks but how it feels and if you can apply the topspin on the ball.

I will also have a talk with the club about my future. I had a little talk yesterday with one of them and he said he understands me and that we should talk about the your future and the clubs future together etc. That he really likes me, loved playing with me and that he is gonna be very sad if I leave... Too bad the other youth player went out on a loan this season so we couldn't play for promotion. Then I wouldn't need to make this decision. He agreed it was a mistake letting him go - well let's see I will have this talk tomorrow or next week.. Switching to the team(in case I do really go) that is less sympathetic than my current team just for the sake of game quality also feels weird.

Regarding the switch, it's almost always difficult to leave friends and teammates like that to start something new. If you didn't like them you wouldn't have a decision to make.
I would just remind you that between your game and training threads you have written appx 10 times that you cannot improve at your current club.
Part of the question is also how sad would they be to see you move if you weren't a good player? This is important because if they're determined to keep you mostly for your level then they're thinking of themselves, meaning you need to do the same and think of your self.
Everything changes anyway though.
My personal view is that we can shape the change by instigating it and making the decisions. Or we sit back cos we were afraid or felt bad or got persuaded and someone/everyone else will control the changes.
I believe the answer to this lies in (like the road to 1550 TTR video) taking control of your training and development plan.
If you can't complete your development plan at your current club then go!!!
Otherwise I reckon you're guaranteed frustration when (for example) someone else leaves cos it suits them better or as you said the club does something stupid again by sending another player away - like the youth player you mentioned

 

[Zezima]

Regarding the switch, it's almost always difficult to leave friends and teammates like that to start something new. If you didn't like them you wouldn't have a decision to make.
I would just remind you that between your game and training threads you have written appx 10 times that you cannot improve at your current club.
Part of the question is also how sad would they be to see you move if you weren't a good player? This is important because if they're determined to keep you mostly for your level then they're thinking of themselves, meaning you need to do the same and think of your self.
Everything changes anyway though.
My personal view is that we can shape the change by instigating it and making the decisions. Or we sit back cos we were afraid or felt bad or got persuaded and someone/everyone else will control the changes.
I believe the answer to this lies in (like the road to 1550 TTR video) taking control of your training and development plan.
If you can't complete your development plan at your current club then go!!!
Otherwise I reckon you're guaranteed frustration when (for example) someone else leaves cos it suits them better or as you said the club does something stupid again by sending another player away - like the youth player you mentioned

The thing is I know them for a long time. They are quite older than me ~55-75+ and the ones on my team are around ~57(the one I talked to and like the most on the team. You can hear him in the videos vs Günter for example how he is supporting me from the side ~1200RC)

the other member who I like also (who gave me Harimoto SZLC + D09c ~2weeks played for FREE + he has ) and also supports me in my games and picks me up to drive me to our league games (he is my neighbour too but still doesn't bother to pick the others up who live further away ~15min) ~1200RC

The 3rd Member is a couple years older than me but he seems to care more about his trainingsessions with the kids more than his own training (we probably trained like twice or so in the last 4-5months) he has around 1470RC
He is ok to talk to but we are not so close and he is a bit distant.

When I switch the teams I already know they won't be that supportive as much as my current team. I will have to drive on my own. I am also not sure if they train much.

And as you said I was frustrated when the other youth player left(sure the club got like 700€ for the loan year so it was worth for them but they didn't talk with me about that decision or what my goals were. Because I really wanted to play for promotion again which would have been easy with him) (we had 2 youth player and rotated as 4 man in the Landesliga since only 3 can play) and after that season we got demoted due to new rules (league being seized down from 12 Teams to 10) and we were 3rd last place.. One left to study to vienna the other wanted to play one more season in the Landesliga in a different club before he goes studying himself but its april and he is still unsure what he wants to do.. Anyway because he didn't come to train with us except once we also lost a good player to train with.

There are technically 2 Teams I could ask to join. Maybe more but I don't favor them so much. I don't know it seems hard to go from a supportive team to an unknown team that are more individuals than a "team" atleast from an outside perspective.

Sorry I wrote it a bit messy this time. Just puked my thoughts straight out of the brain.

I will just talk with my current team and then start talking with other clubs. I think thats better than the other way around. Because I really feel like I can reach higher. And for that I need better opponents and better trainingspartner.

TLDR: Talking with my own club first and then will go and contact the other player from the other club to train a session with me and then talk about joining his club if I enjoyed practising with him otherwise there is another club I will go and ask if I can play in their 2nd team (they have 2 teams in the Landesliga - only downside they are 30min further away but their hall will get destroyed so they might need to play away always not sure where they would train then.. thats why I am shifting towards the other club which is also a bit closer)