Fun challenges or practices in table tennis

[Suga D]

Like a magnet or something Sir!

Totally right. I think i've already wrote this, when NL posted this the first time, but can't praise him enough for this.
So, NL, very well done. One needs a real calm hand for this. I still can't do it as long as you can.
Almost as if there is a nylon string from racket to table and the ball is just travelling back and forth. I only missed that you looked up in the cam like Marcos Freitas.
[Emoji6]
Excellent job!
[Emoji106]

10
1000% true, and i will post a video later, because as i said most who i played against aren't accepting to be in video, and even if i try to angle the camera so only be in the video may not show the full picture, but i may video myself training too, i am so close to buy a robot i found then i will start videos for that.

Also, when i posted my rude posted before in another thread it was like a big challenge in the face for you, like firing up, even if i am a troll and i annoyed you but you should just ignore and instead you challenge me to show me much better games of you, because i said that i showed your video to the coach and some friends and they all agreed that you aren't that much good, just good as many over here i played with, even there is one member here who i met him twice and played with him and he told me honestly that i play better than you.

In addition, with all of your knowledge and your answers and advises to others anyone will think that you reached so high levels so logically we will think you play as what you know, believe me, with all of your helpful and informative posts i feel you even better than coaches here i know, you know about equipment, you know about techniques, you know about basics, so what is missing then to be a master in TT? Let's say i do the opposite, you show videos that to me and others i know doesn't tell much about how good you are but your talk is way way high that we know, and i talk not good but i may play high than you, at the end i am very very sorry for what i said, and hope you take my posts as a challenge or even as a revenge and show me the best off you, and that is why i want to show my best one day when possible, if i show you my worst matches then i know what will be said, i have coaches who can watch me and tell me my mistakes even they don't train me.

Back to this thread, you believe it is also a bad thread or a waste, so do you suggest that it should deleted/removed? I think it won't go a good way further from what i see and i know it is because of me or my fault, but separate this thread than my posts on the other thread, it is just fun here.

How about i video myself doing serves? but i really feel that if i practice on serves and show you then you will believe i am not good just because of serves, so should i or no regardless it is not fun but it is serious practice, and if you agree and i did video then what kind of serves do you want me to practice on? Also as aside request, when i will have videos, how can i show it without uploading it to youtube? not planning to open a channel or have my personal youtube channel for/about my videos yet.

Tareq, i think there's a BIG misunderstanding here.
I somehow get the feeling that you think this ONE big competition here.

Well let me tell you then: IT'S NOT!!

And since this is a TT-Forum i generally think playing TT-tournaments is a much better competition instead of showing who is the best video editor!!

Everyone posting vids of themselves isn't doing this to show how good he can play. In fact it's rather the opposite, cause showing an unedited vid allows to see all flaws. And that is much more helpful for improvement than showing a Best-of-highlight-Video, which would be totally missing the point and purpose of posting and would rather be cheating on oneself. The unedited ones are honest and hide no flaws, 'cause IT IS THOSE FLAWS that shall get detected!
So just go ahead and post a video of yourself if you want to learn and improve, and ofc no problem if not, but then you can keep those rude comments to yourself!

I don't know any other option than YouTube, except Vimeo or Dailymotion and a few others.
But what you could do is to set the vid as unlisted, so nobody can google and search for it, and no unwanted viewers can see it.

But this thread of yours is actually quite a good idea. From latest scientific researches learning while having fun at the same time is the best way to learn.
There even is a song about this called Edutainment, meaning Education by Entertainment. So at least props for starting this thread here.

Here is the thing guys, a lower level player often can't see the subtle details of spin and how a player is contacting the ball to generate so much spin. Like, my guess is that OP can't see the arc on the ball on my self hit video. He probably can't see the pull ball contact and he may not even see the acceleration on the bounce that shows how much spin I am putting on that ball that starts out with no spin.

Further, he can't see how much spin or power NextLevel gets on his shots even though it is evident to anyone who knows the game. Based on videos from NextLevel where he shows EVERYTHING, including (and especially) his mistakes, because he knows that is how HE will improve best is from seeing and understanding his miscues, OP still thought Boogar was higher level than NextLevel in spite of seeing footage of NextLevel beating Boogar easily without even having to play hard.

What made OP think Boogar was better than OP: Boogar posted a video of highlights of his best play and NextLevel posted videos where you can see everything including when he messes up.

Further, OP saw footage of 2 semiprofessional players Mark Croitoroo and Mishel Levinski whose USATT ratings range from 2400-2600 and could not tell that these were very high level players and claimed he could play even with (win some, lose some) against these players. Why did he think that these high level players were his level????? Because he CANNOT see the spin or the deception. Why did he think he was clearly better than Rich Dewitt and Philippe Dassonval???? Same reason.

If OP does post video, we will be able to see the difference in spin and contact. We will be able to tell his level regardless of if he presents video highlights of his best shots or actual footage that includes mistakes: whether he posts videos of easy wins against worse players, tough wins or loses against an evenly matched opponent or big loses against much higher level players. We will be able to see. Because, when you start being able to do these things, you start being able to see them.

Despite NextLevel's physical limitations as a result of RA (an inflammatory joint disease) that makes it hard for him to move, anyone who actually knows how to play at a decent level can see that his technique is quite high level. No low level player can get that kind of arc or pace on the ball; or the kick on the bounce. No low level player can make that precise contact and pull through the ball so fully.

Despite his physical limitations, NextLevel is at a decently high level. I can tell you from first hand experience that his ball quality is much higher level than his overall level of play. And I am confident that his physical restrictions are the largest limiting factor in his overall level.

But then you have a guy like the OP who can't see any of this who seems to value winning a match against a weaker opponent more than playing well and holding your own despite losing against a higher level player, and it just shows that either he really doesn't understand the game or HE IS NOT who he IS PRETENDING to be.

So the recent trolling with claims that he is the same level or higher than semipro players and the posts insulting and ridiculing players for showing honest, unedited footage of the reality of how they play, makes me wonder: is this an honest person who just does not understand the game or is the OP a sock puppet hiding behind a false identity trying to instigate arguments simply for his own amusement.


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Good post and quite on point, carl.
But I believe this is very real and no trolling. Hence my posted Meme.
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[OldschoolPenholder]

Almost as if there is a nylon string from racket to table and the ball is just travelling back and forth. I only missed that you looked up in the cam like Marcos Freitas.

Sir,

That is a better description than my magnet. Thank you!

 

[Suga D]

Sir,

That is a better description than my magnet. Thank you!

Awww, that is too kind and probably just a matter of taste, 'cause i like the idea of a ball magnetizer also pretty much.
Need one of those built in my next blade
[Emoji6]
Thank you, Sir.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

Good post and quite on point, carl.
But I believe this is very real and no trolling. Hence my posted Meme.
[Emoji2]

Even if OP is the actual person he presents himself to be, he is in fact often trolling. Let's see if I can demonstrate from a few posts what I mean.

First, the definition of an internet troll from Wikipedia:

"In Internet slang, a troll (/?tro?l/, /?tr?l/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal, on-topic discussion,[3] often for the troll's amusement."

....what you did is easy and i can do it with no problems....

I am sorry to say that, but most videos i saw here aren't showing me a really good playing style, maybe of this last 2 pages the video of Boogar is the best one, but the rest it is like i am playing in my worst day, even in my worst day i play better than you do, but thanks for the videos, it shows what is the difference now.

Don't ask me for videos, because me and my opponents here don't like to take videos of us practicing or playing mostly, one day if i have the permission then i will show, but it is making me a big relief to know that i am better than most out there even if i lose a lot.

As a response to NL posting what he said was his worst loss:

So, you lost that match, why? and you won many games so what happened in that match so you lost?

If the intentions of these comments and others are to be inflammatory, insult and cause strife and arguments, then that is an internet troll even if OP cannot help himself and is not quite aware of what he is doing.

So, the troll part is just the case.

Is he real or a sock puppet? Hard to say. It would have to be a darn good act. But, intentional or not, he is an internet troll.


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[Kaizoku]

I am so sorry, but i almost didn't understand some of your points above, i mean how to do it, English isn't my language so i am trying to know what are you talking about as to do, wish if you have videos of what you are trying to say so i can understand it better.

Hmm.. I'll see what I can find.

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(5:41)
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"marcos freitas - table tennis tricks" video that Carl posted.
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Can't find any :x
Not sure how to describe better. Topspin the ball from table end (edge of table), after the ball roles down. You time your stroke. Topspin it over the net basically.. (but not from bouncing, after roling down.)

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

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Can't find any :x
Not sure how to describe better. Topspin the ball from table end (edge of table), after the ball roles down. You time your stroke. Topspin it over the net basically.. (but not from bouncing, after roling down.)

#4 is a very valuable drill that helps you improve on looping handbreaker balls.

A handbreaker is a ball that will bounce the second time, right at the white line at the end of the table or just past. This drill helps you measure exactly where the edge of the table is for looping those half long and handbreaker balls.

A word of caution: do not practice with your regular racket until you are pretty good at it. A mistake can damage your hand and the racket.


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[TareqPhoto]

Hmm.. I'll see what I can find.

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2. =

(5:41)
3. =
"marcos freitas - table tennis tricks" video that Carl posted.
4. =
Can't find any :x
Not sure how to describe better. Topspin the ball from table end (edge of table), after the ball roles down. You time your stroke. Topspin it over the net basically.. (but not from bouncing, after roling down.)

Cool, thank you very much!

 

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#4 is a very valuable drill that helps you improve on looping handbreaker balls.

A handbreaker is a ball that will bounce the second time, right at the white line at the end of the table or just past. This drill helps you measure exactly where the edge of the table is for looping those half long and handbreaker balls.

A word of caution: do not practice with your regular racket until you are pretty good at it. A mistake can damage your hand and the racket.


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I get the basic idea, but how do set up a drill to practice that though? Do you need a partner who rolls balls down the table for you, or can you practice it solo?

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

I get the basic idea, but how do set up a drill to practice that though? Do you need a partner who rolls balls down the table for you, or can you practice it solo?

The partner rolling the ball for you is pretty valuable. I have done it alone. But it is sort of a different think because you are not really set to take the ball. It is hard to roll the ball from the net get back, get low and loop from the position you should be in. Not getting low sort of defeats the purpose of the drill and that is the first thing that happens when you try to roll the ball yourself.


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The partner rolling the ball for you is pretty valuable. I have done it alone. But it is sort of a different think because you are not really set to take the ball. It is hard to roll the ball from the net get back, get low and loop from the position you should be in. Not getting low sort of defeats the purpose of the drill and that is the first thing that happens when you try to roll the ball yourself.

I thought as much.

I should probably stay away from the exercise anyway. If there's a slight chance you injury yourself, then I usually find it...

 

[Archosaurus]

A drill I used to do when I could not loop and was learning to was to just stand mostly straight on the edge of the table, roll the ball slowly off the edge and then try to make brush contact on it softly when it rolled past the edge.

Now I can do this easily, but it was very difficult back then. I think this is a good exercise for bare beginners.