Going from inner to outer carbon blade?

[TTPlayer01]

Is there a big difference in going from a inner to outercarbon blade? Currently using a DHS301 but currently im a backhand dominant player, so thinking about getting a FZD ALC / Viscaria. I like to BH topspin rally and BH flick, but I have seen that the outer carbon blades have less feeling to them. Would that have effect on gameplay?

 

[Tyce]

Have you tried a Viscaria? You see them a lot so it's a matter of asking someone to hit a few balls with their blade.

 

[Airoc]

I have seen that the outer carbon blades have less feeling to them.

Both the "Inner vs. Outer" and the "All wood vs. Carbon" discussions suffer a little from generalization.

A blade with fibres on the core should have a better feeling than the same construction with the same weight, but fibres below the top plies.
However, in many cases blades of the same name, available as both "inner" and "outer", are different in more than one espect. Quite often the "inner" version would come with Limba top plies as opposed to Koto on the "outer", which probably has an equal or even bigger effect than the positioning of the fibres alone. Thickness also plays a role.

So keep in mind that there isn´t "an inner" or "an outer", there are so many that changing from one to another could be a small or a huge step.

According to some quick research your 301 has Koto outer plies and the same thickness as Viscaria, so giving that one a try seems like the right idea.

 

[isaacdl]

Both the "Inner vs. Outer" and the "All wood vs. Carbon" discussions suffer a little from generalization.

A blade with fibres on the core should have a better feeling than the same construction with the same weight, but fibres below the top plies.
However, in many cases blades of the same name, available as both "inner" and "outer", are different in more than one espect. Quite often the "inner" version would come with Limba top plies as opposed to Koto on the "outer", which probably has an equal or even bigger effect than the positioning of the fibres alone. Thickness also plays a role.

So keep in mind that there isn´t "an inner" or "an outer", there are so many that changing from one to another could be a small or a huge step.

According to some quick research your 301 has Koto outer plies and the same thickness as Viscaria, so giving that one a try seems like the right idea.

This is totally true. One example: the 301T (inner) its almost as faster as a Viscaria (outer)

Source: ttgearlab
I recommend ttgearlab analysis to check empirically results about blades.

 

[SFF_lib]

Is there a big difference in going from a inner to outercarbon blade? Currently using a DHS301 but currently im a backhand dominant player, so thinking about getting a FZD ALC / Viscaria. I like to BH topspin rally and BH flick, but I have seen that the outer carbon blades have less feeling to them. Would that have effect on gameplay?

I played DHS 301 before. It's an incredibly fast inner ALC blade thanks to the hard koto ply. The feel is crisp.

The outer ALC with great feelings are Viscaria and ZJK ALC. Both have good crisp feedback but not too sluggish like FZD or LGY ALC.

 

[TTCraze]

I have played with DHS 301X, Viscaria and now using Fzd alc. The main differences are :

• Throw angle - Viscaria had high throw angle compared to 301X which means easy play and better clearance of shots over net.
• Blocking - Blocks are easier with Viscaria because of throw angle again.
• Feeling - 301x has better feel on the low impact shots. But at the same time it is not very crisp which again is personal preference.
• Weight balance - Viscaria is even balanced which means easier bh flicks and handling whereas 301x is head heavy.
• Handle - 301x handle is too thin but again it is personal preference.
• Effort - With 301x you have to play actively, if you are a attacker it takes effort to clear the balls over net as it is very direct but at the same time it is hard for opponents and you can get good lethal shots.
• Power - with Viscaria you can get easy access to power without a lot of effort.
• Slow loops - I would say with Viscaria it is easy but could be a bit difficult to control but with 301x you are unlikely to overhit.

Moreover it depends on your height, play style and the rubber combination.
I am tall so Viscaria feels easy to play with rather than 301x and moreover I love the backhand feeling on it.

Fzd alc is considered to be having more dwell and better control than Viscaria.I know everyone says both are same but believe me there is a difference.
So it could be a good option.

Late but hope it helps.
Cheers.

 

[ttarc]

Is there a big difference in going from a inner to outercarbon blade? Currently using a DHS301 but currently im a backhand dominant player, so thinking about getting a FZD ALC / Viscaria. I like to BH topspin rally and BH flick, but I have seen that the outer carbon blades have less feeling to them. Would that have effect on gameplay?

In this case I would stay with DHS and get a TG506A or TG506X. Handle, head size, and balance should be closer to the H301 than the Butterfly blades. Another advantage: there are cheaper versions (PG6A and PG6X) and there's an upgrade Hurricane Long 5A.

Performance Indices DB – Fiber Blades (Inner)

Note : All values are average values, and can be updated by further measurement. Quad/Triple FiberOuterInner3+2 plyCenter Fiber7-ply Wood5-ply Wood andro & Avalox / Inner NameAvg.Wt (g)EpEcEc/E…

ttgearlab.com

Performance Indices DB – Fiber Blades (Outer)

Note : All values are average values, and can be updated by further measurement. Quad/Triple FiberOuterInner3+2 plyCenter Fiber7-ply Wood5-ply Wood andro / Outer NameAvg.Wt (g)EpEcEc/EpVpVlVl/Vpand…

ttgearlab.com

H301 (89.6g avg) Ep = 1.88, Ec = 1.64, Ec/Ep = 0.87
TG506A (87.6g avg) Ep = 1.99, Ec = 1.68, Ec/Ep = 0.84
TG506X (85.2g avg) Ep = 2.03, Ec = 1.82, Ec/Ep = 0.9
Viscaria/FZD/ZJK (87.1g avg) Ep = 2.02, Ec = 1.92, Ec/Ep = 0.95
Ep = more or less base speed, Ec = speed when hit hard, Ec/Ep how strongly the blade holds the ball.