How do you banana flick?

[gmiller2233]

I don't have time to watch/ thoroughly digest all the post but i look forward to doing so soon. Banana flick seems for me to be a feel shot and if I have not practiced for a while it's the first thing to go, loosing the proper timing and reliability In match play. I have noticed a few key things when I'm not executing the shot. When concentrating on reading the spin I can loose the timing taking the ball after its peaks. You can still flip this ball but it requires an adjustment as stated above better to take it at its peak. Also for me it's important to start with a higher elbow. When I let my elbow drop in the beginning my stroke angle can be to up and with the same contact point I will send it long. You can see the high elbow in fan zhendong flip above. william' henzell's elbow is slightly lower but it's still higher than mine when failing to execute. This is something I real want to become confident in at all times because when it's reliable it really changes the way the game is played often making the opponent change serve strategy and decreasing comfort lel. Nice thread!


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[UpSideDownCarl]

Your racket should almost be as low as the table, almost touching the table. Most people don't understand how low you have to be.

This whole post is top notch but this piece right here is pure gold.

You can actually do it without getting the racket low like what David is talking about. But it won't be a high level shot. When you add this piece that your racket almost touches the table, then all of a sudden, your shot has much better spin and pace. All of a sudden, the shot quality goes way up because no matter how low the serve or push is, you will be coming up from under the ball how you need to on a loop.

I confess I don't usually get low enough on this. But Edmund was making me get the racket to almost touch the table and be almost all the way closed on Wednesday when I hit with him, and those were different than my usual over the table BHs by a long shot.


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[Der_Echte]

A note from a previous post, yes the bat speed is higher at the tip of the bat, but it is darned difficult to consistently impact the ball there high percentage no miss. Safer to try to impact the ball center of bat. Easier to impact near tip if you are taking it immediately off bounce.

Still, if you do not step in, stick that elbow out, be in position and use leverage, your shit will be weak or a fail.

Getting the bat tip way down almost touching table is a good preload. If you do this, stick elbow out and step in, you have excellent leverage.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Resurrecting this necron thread.

First, I was afraid, I was petrified,
Kept thinking, I could never ever flip it over the other side.
But then I spent so many try thinking, how did I do it wrong
And I grew strong and I learned how to get flip it along.

It never occur to me, I thought it would be impossible, it could not happen,
that a massive 10.5mm thick one ply can do a chiquita.

But there is a trick to it.

And the trick is to be selective. Not all short ball can be chiquita'ed. Select your poison wisely. If encounter super heavy backspin short ball it is just safer to just push it back. I know I am no Lin Yunju.

Short ball but with light underspin or short ball with side top spin are the best candidate to chiquita. Choose the poison wisely.

Now Gozo has added new armaments into his bag of arsenal.

 

[God-scrubplayer]

load of crap advices from this thread tbh.



Banana flick's most important skill is to understand what spin is coming and the proper technique for it. Assuming is right hand vs right hand.

1. if it's pendulum spin, you can twist your wrist more to go with the spin, you don't really have to do much, you basically have the guide the ball to where you want and the spin will do it for you. The resulting banana flick is more of a side/dead. A lot of opponent receiving it will have the ball go the net.
2. If it's a reverse pendulum spin: Then you don't have to twist your wrist as much because the spin is already opposite direction of your racket movement so you just have to make sure it doesn't go "out". The result banana flick is a rather high quality top spin.
3. If it's against heavy back spin. It will be similar to 1, but instead of just guiding the ball, you actually have to accelerate your wrist on contact go get the ball over. The result banana is a very strong side/top spin ball.
4. If the ball is no spin: Try not to banana flick it. Usually people who serve no spin WANT you to banana flick. The resulting flick will have no quality and up for grabs for a big bad counter.

From the above list 1 is the easiest, then it's 3/4 then 2.

You are welcome plebs

/scrubjesus