ITTF-ATTU Asian Teams Championships 2025, Bhubaneswar, 10/11-15

[TT11.TV]

Miwa Harimoto vs Kim Kum Yong

 

[zeio]

美和一单，早田二单，桥本饮水机 (Miwa 1st singles, Hayata 2nd singles, Hashimoto water dispenser)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10120021323
该用户 早田对金琴英这种特殊打法行吗？她阿库拉都会输
IP属地:江苏来自Android客户端2楼2025-10-12 20:40收起回复
(Is Hayata good against this special playing style of KKY? She has even lost to Akula)
黍稷: 不大行，除非神风模式
2025-10-12 21:06回复
(Not very good, unless it's Kamikaze mode)
本🉑儿人美心善: 回复 黍稷 :神风哪有那么好请啊，巴奥都请了一次，手废作为代价
2025-10-13 02:01回复
(It's not that easy to invite Kamikaze. Already invited Kamikaze once at Paris 2024, sacrificing her hand as the price)

食人魔军阀 打朝鲜上削球很不可靠。朝鲜女队历来都出很强的削球手。
IP属地:广东3楼2025-10-12 20:41回复
(Fielding a chopper is unreliable against PRK. PRK women's team has historically produced very strong choppers.)

右鞋左穿DSSQJ 日本不怕翻车吗….
IP属地:广东来自iPhone客户端4楼2025-10-12 20:41收起回复
(Isn't Japan afraid of an upset...?)
开心果苹果脸: 翻不了一点。
2025-10-12 20:44回复
(Not a chance)
贴吧用户_a2MDKGM: 这倒不会，朝鲜队整体实力还是比较弱的
2025-10-12 21:01回复
(Not likely. PRK is still relatively weak overall)

⁡⁢⁢⁠⁡⁡⁢⁢朝鲜毕竟以前出了金宋依李明顺，这几位内战能打出来打削球大抵是合格的
IP属地:江西来自Android客户端6楼2025-10-12 21:06
回复
(⁡⁢⁢⁠⁡⁡⁢⁢After all, PRK has produced Kim Song I and Ri Myong-sun in the past. These players that make it out of the civil wars should have a passing grade against choppers)

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亚锦赛奶香和长崎美柚好可爱 (Milk Fragrant and Nagasaki so cute in ATTTC)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10120147806
小花酱😽 早田跟张本是真不对付，张本看都不看早田一眼。难怪张本还跟桥本打女双，很显然她希望桥本入选奥运，把早田挤下去。
IP属地:山东来自Android客户端6楼2025-10-12 22:44回复
(Hayata and Harimoto really don't get along. Harimoto won't even look at Hayata. No wonder Harimoto is playing WD with Hashimoto. It's obvious that she hopes Hashimoto will be selected for the Olympics and squeeze Hayata out.)

koga纱理那🍉 桥本牌电风扇和长崎牌饮水机
IP属地:广东来自Android客户端7楼2025-10-12 22:47回复
(Hashimoto brand electric fan and Nagasaki brand water dispenser)

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奶香一直努力煽扇子 (Milk Fragrant kept fanning the fan)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10120148755
伊藤打金琴英会怎样 (What if Ito played KKY)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10120227605

 

[zeio]

户上这次回去走vip通道吗 (Will Togami go through the VIP channel when heading back this time?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10120058572
贴吧用户_G2WC2Jy 奖励留在印度打联赛吧
IP属地:四川来自iPhone客户端2楼2025-10-12 21:37回复
(Stay in India and play the leagues as reward)

生龙活虎葫芦娃 从恒河游回去
IP属地:甘肃来自iPhone客户端3楼2025-10-12 21:40回复
(Swim back from the Ganges)

纯理论乒乓 是不是其他人都换回D了，就他还两面Z03乱抡
IP属地:辽宁来自iPhone客户端4楼2025-10-13 00:23收起回复
(Is it that everyone else has switched back to Dignics, but he is still wildly swinging double Z03 around?)
Blondeee: 张本也是Z03
2025-10-13 00:59回复
(Harimoto is also Z03)

黄昏细雨润婷芳 奖励户上去北方邦特训，获得虎神之力了才能回来
IP属地:四川来自Android客户端6楼2025-10-13 00:24回复
(As reward, Togami will go to Uttar Pradesh for special training and can only come back after acquiring the power of the Tiger God)

武林外传莫小贝 可以把牌子送给粉丝，反正也和他没关系
IP属地:北京来自iPhone客户端8楼2025-10-13 02:03回复
(He can give the medal to the fans, given that it has nothing to do with him anyway)

Perhaps it really wasn't a smokescreen from the KOR media.

无忌和男明星伤了，亚锦赛可能不上场 (Wuji [JWJ] and Male Star [AJH] are injured and may not be fielded in the ATTTC)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10117341149

户上外战简直差到极致 (Togami is simply terrible to the max in foreign battles)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10119979790
G6kb84 收回之前说户上外战比大登强的话惹以后牢户你就抱好松岛大腿打男双吧，男单是一点指望都没有了
IP属地:北京来自Android客户端1楼2025-10-12 20:17回复
(I take back what I said about Togami being stronger than Hiroto. In the future, just hold on to Matsushima's thighs and play MD. There's no hope for him in MS)

G6kb84 球商为0，差到还不如小学生 我宣布脱粉一年 明年再来看看这b是啥样吧
IP属地:北京来自Android客户端2楼2025-10-12 20:25回复
(TTQ is 0, worse than that of an elementary school student. I declare that I will stop being a fan for a year. Come back next year to see what this b [c__t] will be like)

亚锦赛：日本VS韩国
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10119702791
【亚锦赛】男团1/4决赛 日本 3-1 韩国
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10120065743

 

[TTLOVE]

户上这次回去走vip通道吗 (Will Togami go through the VIP channel when heading back this time?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10120058572
贴吧用户_G2WC2Jy 奖励留在印度打联赛吧
IP属地:四川来自iPhone客户端2楼2025-10-12 21:37回复
(Stay in India and play the leagues as reward)

生龙活虎葫芦娃 从恒河游回去
IP属地:甘肃来自iPhone客户端3楼2025-10-12 21:40回复
(Swim back from the Ganges)

纯理论乒乓 是不是其他人都换回D了，就他还两面Z03乱抡
IP属地:辽宁来自iPhone客户端4楼2025-10-13 00:23收起回复
(Is it that everyone else has switched back to Dignics, but he is still wildly swinging double Z03 around?)
Blondeee: 张本也是Z03
2025-10-13 00:59回复
(Harimoto is also Z03)

黄昏细雨润婷芳 奖励户上去北方邦特训，获得虎神之力了才能回来
IP属地:四川来自Android客户端6楼2025-10-13 00:24回复
(As reward, Togami will go to Uttar Pradesh for special training and can only come back after acquiring the power of the Tiger God)

武林外传莫小贝 可以把牌子送给粉丝，反正也和他没关系
IP属地:北京来自iPhone客户端8楼2025-10-13 02:03回复
(He can give the medal to the fans, given that it has nothing to do with him anyway)

I don't understand why you keep quoting Tieba comments. What's the point?

I really don't understand. They have no authority. They are largely ignorant and racist comments. Why should we care?

Incidentally, Tieba is considered rubbish even by the Chinese. Playing your own game, I'll quote a Chinese friend who wrote to me: 他更像是垃圾桶，装满了不好的信息 (He's more like a dustbin, stuffed full of rubbish.)

Please explain why you keep sharing this nonsense.

 

[NextLevel]

Nah one match doesn't tell the full story. China has been fully focused on Hashimoto and her form wasn't the best that day either. Wang Yidi also admitted that she doesn't have the capability to beat Hashimoto the way SYS does. It was basically a case of everything including mental game aligning for Wang and Hashimoto somewhat falling apart. I still fancy her chances next time they meet.

That's entirely fair, lets see how it plays out. I think the improvement vs Akula says otherwise but only a rematch can tell.

 

[Catenaccio]

Nah one match doesn't tell the full story. China has been fully focused on Hashimoto and her form wasn't the best that day either. Wang Yidi also admitted that she doesn't have the capability to beat Hashimoto the way SYS does. It was basically a case of everything including mental game aligning for Wang and Hashimoto somewhat falling apart. I still fancy her chances next time they meet.

I agree with @driversbeat. Everything aligned for WYD on that (plus home court advantage) whereas Hashimoto had a bad day at the office. Below are the H2H stats of some Japanese players against WYD:

Miwa Harimoto 2-3
Mima Ito 3-10
Satsuki Odo 0-0
Honoka Hashimoto 3-1
Hina Hayata 2-3
Miyu Nagasaki 0-3

Maybe more importantly, Hashimoto has lost to only 3 non-Japanese players since May 2024 at WTT level, i.e. SYS, WMY, and WYD. It's true that she hasn't played as many tournaments as others, but this stat is still incredible. Imo, it's doubtful that the North Koreans are super strong against defenders, but we won't find out anytime soon.

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

What to do for SF against IND if they get through?

https://results.ittf.com/ittf-web-results/html/TTE2994/results.html#/results/2024-10-09
ATTC 2024
WT SF
Odo 0-3 Batra (-6, -5, -8)

Maybe she was nervous at the time because it was her 1st team event at a big tournament, but I'm not worried.

Odo's record vs. India since then:

2025

WTT Contender Muscat 2025

Main Draw

WS

R16

ODO Satsuki (JPN)

MUKHERJEE Ayhika (IND)

11:8 11:1 11:13 11:3

3 - 1

ODO Satsuki

2025

ITTF-ATTU Asian Cup Shenzhen 2025

Qualification

WS

ODO Satsuki (JPN)

MUKHERJEE Ayhika (IND)

11:7 11:4 11:2

3 - 0

ODO Satsuki

2025

WTT Champions Chongqing 2025

Main Draw

WS

R32

ODO Satsuki (JPN)

AKULA Sreeja (IND)

11:4 11:8 11:6

3 - 0

ODO Satsuki

 

[NextLevel]

IND: What do we do now that PRK has failed despite the good draw, Massimo Costantini?
Massimo Costantini: We pray that JPN will 講武德 and bench Hashimoto

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/2025_ATTC_Playing-System.pdf

Its a bit delusional to think Hashimoto will make a difference between India and Japan, no?

 

[NextLevel]

Maybe she was nervous at the time because it was her 1st team event at a big tournament, but I'm not worried.

Odo's record vs. India since then:

2025

WTT Contender Muscat 2025

Main Draw

WS

R16

ODO Satsuki (JPN)

MUKHERJEE Ayhika (IND)

11:8 11:1 11:13 11:3

3 - 1

ODO Satsuki

2025

ITTF-ATTU Asian Cup Shenzhen 2025

Qualification

WS

ODO Satsuki (JPN)

MUKHERJEE Ayhika (IND)

11:7 11:4 11:2

3 - 0

ODO Satsuki

2025

WTT Champions Chongqing 2025

Main Draw

WS

R32

ODO Satsuki (JPN)

AKULA Sreeja (IND)

11:4 11:8 11:6

3 - 0

ODO Satsuki

The point is not the specific opponent but that the national team situation puts a pressure on her that makes her play worse. It was also obvious that she didn't get the shielding she should have gotten and started out playing in a key position and played a tough opponent under the assumption that general form would be sufficient. Unfortunately, people form stories around every struggle because results matter. Over time, her playing level should be more imoortant than any such struggles.

 

[NextLevel]

I agree with @driversbeat. Everything aligned for WYD on that (plus home court advantage) whereas Hashimoto had a bad day at the office. Below are the H2H stats of some Japanese players against WYD:

Miwa Harimoto 2-3
Mima Ito 3-10
Satsuki Odo 0-0
Honoka Hashimoto 3-1
Hina Hayata 2-3
Miyu Nagasaki 0-3

Maybe more importantly, Hashimoto has lost to only 3 non-Japanese players since May 2024 at WTT level, i.e. SYS, WMY, and WYD. It's true that she hasn't played as many tournaments as others, but this stat is still incredible. Imo, it's doubtful that the North Koreans are super strong against defenders, but we won't find out anytime soon.

Its doubtful but how would anyone have predicted that Kim Kum Yong would beat both Hayata and Harimoto? Or that Odo would go 5 games against an almost unranked PRK player? Or that Hong Kong would manage to beat Germany because the lowest ranked player in their lineup managed to beat Han Ying and Xioana Shan? Or that PRK would knockout Harimoto and Hayata in the first round of the Olympics XD on the way to the silver medal? Using the logic you have outlined, which of these are predictable?

So no matter how unlikely it is that Hashimoto would lose to Cha or Kim etc., it is always on the table because some players do play defenders above their level and it only needs to click for one match. Vladislav Ursu is an example of such a player on the men's side. He eats defenders alive but for whatever reason just isn't a top top player.

 

[driversbeat]

Batra can't play choppers and her teammates aren't that much better. With Hashimoto they have close to 0 chance of winning.

 

[NextLevel]

Batra can't play choppers and her teammates aren't that much better. With Hashimoto they have close to 0 chance of winning.

So when Batra was pointed out to have at least one win over Suh.Hyowon, what was your response?

No doubt, I think Hashimoto should do well against India because all of their players are in the public domain. Definitely not the case with PRK.

 

[FIXPOINT]

Scheduled matches:
All times are local time.
Live streaming
Live scoring
Mon 13 Oct 2025
10:00 T1 MT Qual Match1 Kazakhstan - DPR Korea
10:00 T2 MT Qual Match2 Islamic Rep. of Iran - Singapore
10:00 T3 MT Pos. 12-15 Match2 Uzbekistan - Qatar
10:00 T4 MT Pos. 12-15 Match1 Malaysia - Mongolia
10:00 T5 MT Pos. 17-20 Match1 Maldives - Macau, China
10:00 T6 MT Pos. 17-20 Match2 Bangladesh - Kyrgyzstan
16:00 T1 MT QF Match1 China - Islamic Rep. of Iran
16:00 T2 MT QF Match4 DPR Korea - Chinese Taipei
16:00 T3 MT Pos. 9-10 Match1 Kazakhstan - Singapore
16:00 T4 MT Pos. 14-15 Match1 Mongolia - Uzbekistan
16:00 T5 MT Pos. 19-20 Match1 Maldives - Bangladesh

 

[NextLevel]

Even the first point of the match is already showing Harimoto trying my favorite play in table tennis (short push, attack the long return), doesn't win the point and not as devastating as the CNT but progress is progress....

Does Harimoto ever do this?

 

[NextLevel]

Don't want to spam the thread too much but he is clearly taking the assignment seriously I Wonder how long it will last:

 

[Catenaccio]

Its doubtful but how would anyone have predicted that Kim Kum Yong would beat both Hayata and Harimoto? Or that Odo would go 5 games against an almost unranked PRK player? Or that Hong Kong would manage to beat Germany because the lowest ranked player in their lineup managed to beat Han Ying and Xioana Shan? Or that PRK would knockout Harimoto and Hayata in the first round of the Olympics XD on the way to the silver medal? Using the logic you have outlined, which of these are predictable?

So no matter how unlikely it is that Hashimoto would lose to Cha or Kim etc., it is always on the table because some players do play defenders above their level and it only needs to click for one match. Vladislav Ursu is an example of such a player on the men's side. He eats defenders alive but for whatever reason just isn't a top top player.

You make a fair point that it would have been difficult to predict the things you mentioned since PRK are an unknown quantity. My point is that it would have been at least as safe/good to pick Hashimoto over Odo. The latter didn't perform well in her match against Batra in a similar situation last year. Hashimoto has the better record against non-Japanese players than Odo YTD. In addition, it's more difficult to emulate Hashimoto's style (for studying purposes) than Odo's. If North Korea had a world class chopper, then they would have fielded such a player.

Hashimoto is in the form of her life. Why not give her a chance?

 

[zeio]

Its a bit delusional to think Hashimoto will make a difference between India and Japan, no?

Man, you have even less hope for India than yours truly....

IND: The breakthrough point will be...

Sreeja Akula vs Hina Hayata | WS R32 | #WTTLagos 2025
https://youtu.be/ck1ACqKze0Y?t=354

2022 ITTF-ATTU Asian Cup I Day 3 I Finals
https://youtu.be/DeQCM-I2-H8?t=15642

 

[zeio]

Even the first point of the match is already showing Harimoto trying my favorite play in table tennis (short push, attack the long return), doesn't win the point and not as devastating as the CNT but progress is progress....

Does Harimoto ever do this?

The "old" Harimoto with those trademark blinks used to turn the corner on the 2nd and 5th ball...

FULL MATCH - Tomokazu Harimoto vs Zhang Jike (2018) | BEST of Japan Open
https://youtu.be/WIvfmq3GxNk?t=3923

https://youtu.be/WIvfmq3GxNk?t=4017

 

[zeio]

https://www.youtube.com/@attulive6613

Day 3
T1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLMRpYr-j2A
T2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7OTQPN1YbE
T3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxG0Tj-mb3I
T4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAH5T2Ch7VQ
T5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VX2zqU21840
T6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmoV3W7f9eE

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

why cant we have a chatbox? how am i supposed to watch table tennis without a chatbox