ITTF Pan American Championships 2025 (12 - 19 October 2025)

[Dr Evil]

Hugo reveals all Kanak's inherent limitations. It will be interesting to see whether Kanak can develop consistent solutions for them.

Very interesting. No easy solutions for him. Close to the table blocking and countering makes Kanak the nail and Hugo the hammer. Kanak is great at this, but the nail always loses unless the hammer has a bad day. Either Kanak has to step back and win more rallies than Hugo (doesn't seem viable) or he has to win decisively over the table. But right now Hugo's serve is somewhat better than Kanak's, his banana flip is much better, and his short pushing has improved so much in the last two years that he's now at least as good at it as Kanak. Kanak's only slight edge may be forehand flip. Hard to see Kanak building a decisive edge from here, but at least his first step is obvious: Time to develop an illegal hook serve.

 

[lightspin]

Over the past few years Kanak has gotten WAY BETTER than he used to play (and how he used to play was still world class). I think given more time and practice Kanak could break into the top 10 of rankings.

 

[NextLevel]

Over the past few years Kanak has gotten WAY BETTER than he used to play (and how he used to play was still world class). I think given more time and practice Kanak could break into the top 10 of rankings.

I used to think so but I am not so sure anymore. I look at the tools and look for the path. He has better power but the gap between what his shots do to Hugo and what Hugo's shots do to him is night and day. But Hugo is top 5. To be top 10, we would need Kanak to be a better version of Qiu Dang or Duda. Or a slightly worse version of Harimoto. Is this possible? We shall see...

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Over the past few years Kanak has gotten WAY BETTER than he used to play (and how he used to play was still world class). I think given more time and practice Kanak could break into the top 10 of rankings.

I felt he was going to reach there
the ban/break probably slowed him down.

by the laws, during the ban he wasn't even allowed to practice in any places that is "sanctioned" with any federation.
so it affected his training.

he did manage to practice, of which I probably can't share the details.

 

[TTTT]

Brazil's men's and women's teams played their group matches without Hugo and Bruna - are they off to their honeymoon or just taking a rest?

 

[NextLevel]

Brazil's men's and women's teams played their group matches without Hugo and Bruna - are they off to their honeymoon or just taking a rest?

Likely taking a rest. I suspect they will come back if they have to face the USA, Puerto Rico, Canada or Argentia to name a few of the seeded teams.

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

Great win for Mexico over Chile in the Men's Teams tonight.

 

[TTTT]

Likely taking a rest. I suspect they will come back if they have to face the USA, Puerto Rico, Canada or Argentia to name a few of the seeded teams.

No problem for the Brazilian women, but without Hugo the men lost to Argentina and will now have to play a quarterfinal instead of getting a bye. Draw TBD.

 

[NextLevel]

No problem for the Brazilian women, but without Hugo the men lost to Argentina and will now have to play a quarterfinal instead of getting a bye. Draw TBD.

Then he isnt playing for sure and I was wrong.

 

[NextLevel]

Seems the Brazilian lovebirds have no interest in team competitions, at least outside the WTTTC and the Olympics.

Puerto Rico vs USA for the Women's team gold. Adriana Diaz will likely need (and get) two wins and Brianna Burgos will need to figure out how to get the last win for Puerto Rico to have a chance - I can see Puerto Rico sliding Brianna into the 3 spot if they are sure USA will not change their lineup. USA should win this 3-2.

The mens' semis are tomorrow. USA should win as Kanak should get 2 and his teammates should get 1, but Ilzuka and Teodoro are dangerous enough to get lucky and upset everything, even if it is unlikely they will.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Brazil's men's and women's teams played their group matches without Hugo and Bruna - are they off to their honeymoon or just taking a rest?

probably heading back to Europe to adjust for the Champions Montpellier

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

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[TTTT]

Jimmy Butler whining about Jha's serves again... Sounds like he's offered Kanak his services.

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

castro and lorenzo have been in deuce on T2 for the entirety of this second game on T1 lol

11-8 iizuka and 18-17 castro... castro closes out G1 19-17. both timeouts use in deuce

 

[NextLevel]

Jimmy Butler whining about Jha's serves again... Sounds like he's offered Kanak his services.

I think it has gotten to a point where he can't commentate without discussing it even if he was proven to be wrong on the topic.

 

[PoppaChubby]

probably heading back to Europe to adjust for the Champions Montpellier

It's only starting on oct. 28th, and there's a very little jet lag when you come from South Carolina that is on the eastern side of the US. Only 4 hours difference now, and even less cos' France will change to winter time on oct. 26th (edit sorry), when it will be 3h AM it will then go 1 hour back to 2h AM. Only 3 hours difference so. We love winter time change here cos' we can sleep 1h more

 

[TTTT]

It's only starting on oct. 28th, and there's a very little jet lag when you come from South Carolina that is on the eastern side of the US. Only 4 hours difference now, and even less cos' France will change to winter time on oct. 27th, when it will be 3h AM it will then go 1 hour back to 2h AM. Only 3 hours difference so. We love winter time change here cos' we can sleep 1h more

You may want to check your timezones lol

 

[NextLevel]

The problem the USA has is I can't think of who on the US team can beat Ilzuka and Teodoro so they need Kanak to get two. If Kanak loses this the match is likely over.

 

[TTTT]

Commentators say "ILZUKA" or "LIZUKA" but the name is actually "iizuka", with two ii

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

always get your money's worth with a kanak match, lets go