ITTF WTTC Finals Doha 2025, 5/17-25

[TampaBayTableTennis]

Hugo might pull off the unthinkable

 

[Persistence TT]

Sorry for making confusion. If it just practicing together then it is simple. But in this case it is not. French TT team and Korean TT team cooperated one or two weeks before WC (or even before WTT Incheon?) and let Felix played regularly with Korean players. I do not know how deep the cooperation was, but it seems unsual because they can be rivals in big tournaments such as WC or WTTC. Normally, only some small countries with poor facilities and low level coaching plans need to send their players to stronger countries for advanced training.

It all boils down to perspective. What you said can easily be valid from the french pov also, are the koreans better at studying players than the french? How so? Since the ruy/joo and oh sang eun era, korea men's team hasnt break through yet. They didnt produce a lebrun or a harimoto, so I really dont see how exactly it was a "mistake"

Exchanging knowledge and being suspicious of your opponent are both different POV's if you ask me

The swedes, persson waldner etc, put cameras in the chinese camp just to irritate them. The camera's didnt record anything.

So a laid back chinese player could say " im better than them, let them record me all they want"

and a suspicious one would say " those f***ers, I wont play my best in practice so they dont evaluate me"

Can you try and guess which one of the two chinese falls straight into the mind trap???


I analysed too much, all am saying is, the practice you mentioned was not a crucial or deciding factor.

If indeed there is a case like that then the french coaches and lebrun brothers are not smart enough to assess such a situation...but you are smart enough?

 

[turbozed]

Once I realized that the female announcer in this event sounds a bit like Philomena Cunk, now I can't unhear it.

 

[Grahf]

I got my man Calderano on the bingo

I believe he will face Lin Shidong at the semifinal and the kid does not have an anwwer for Hugo´s strenght nor stamina for a win there

And a Truls - WCQ rematch???? damnnnnn we actually spent all the spyce lmao

 

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[NextLevel]

Has Mima Ito changed her backhand pips? It seems like she has something a bit more disruptive and can slow down the ball significantly on some blocks...

 

[kindof99]

what a great tournament so far with so many heart beatttt matches so far.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Has Mima Ito changed her backhand pips? It seems like she has something a bit more disruptive and can slow down the ball significantly on some blocks...

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[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

WS
all the QF matches are CHN v JPN as "expected" per the seeding...
CHN favorite to win all 4 matches, and despite supporting JNT i think we should be happy even with 1 win. Miwa is playing Wang Manyu, probably the best chance, but WMY is very strong.

 

[turbozed]

Has Mima Ito changed her backhand pips? It seems like she has something a bit more disruptive and can slow down the ball significantly on some blocks...

Maybe she's buggling her opponents with the new Bugller pips

 

[NextLevel]

It all boils down to perspective. What you said can easily be valid from the french pov also, are the koreans better at studying players than the french? How so? Since the ruy/joo and oh sang eun era, korea men's team hasnt break through yet. They didnt produce a lebrun or a harimoto, so I really dont see how exactly it was a "mistake"

Exchanging knowledge and being suspicious of your opponent are both different POV's if you ask me

The swedes, persson waldner etc, put cameras in the chinese camp just to irritate them. The camera's didnt record anything.

So a laid back chinese player could say " im better than them, let them record me all they want"

and a suspicious one would say " those f***ers, I wont play my best in practice so they dont evaluate me"

Can you try and guess which one of the two chinese falls straight into the mind trap???


I analysed too much, all am saying is, the practice you mentioned was not a crucial or deciding factor.

If indeed there is a case like that then the french coaches and lebrun brothers are not smart enough to assess such a situation...but you are smart enough?

Which is more likely to you, An JaeHyun improved enough in the last few months to play Felix better or the knowledge gained from practicing with Felix enabled the Koreans to figure out what makes his game tick and how to play him better, leading to closer matches with both Oh and An?

By the way, Felix in his post match interview spoke repeatedly about An's play bothering him in subtle ways and he was often getting things he didn't like even though he didn't feel bad. Give that some thought. Though you are never short of an argument so I am sure you will just say it was smart coaching that was inevitable without the exposure.... there are reasons why the Chinese leagues sometimes restrict foreigner participation in critical years.

 

[zeio]

Does Mizutani have a WTTC medal? Yet you argue he is entitled to tell someone else what it takes to win one and that it was the least they could do? If he was criticizing Hayata for a bronze in Olympics singles, that is a bit different, but he didn't do better than that.

Look, see what Harimoto's mom told Harimoto over Mizutani's criticism after Paris 2024. You have another person to convince here.

 

[banbekas]

Which is more likely to you, An JaeHyun improved enough in the last few months to play Felix better or the knowledge gained from practicing with Felix enabled the Koreans to figure out what makes his game tick and how to play him better, leading to closer matches with both Oh and An?

By the way, Felix in his post match interview spoke repeatedly about An's play bothering him in subtle ways and he was often getting things he didn't like even though he didn't feel bad. Give that some thought. Though you are never short of an argument so I am sure you will just say it was smart coaching that was inevitable without the exposure.... there are reasons why the Chinese leagues sometimes restrict foreigner participation in critical years.

Absolutely the second one.
You notice people's tendencies when you practice with them. You notice the difference in quality when you give them certain balls or move them a lil bit.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Absolutely the second one.
You notice people's tendencies when you practice with them. You notice the difference in quality when you give them certain balls or move them a lil bit.

imo it is all of them together, to work and some times a bit of luck too.

Overall, I still feel Felix is the stronger player and more times Felix will win.
For An, his confident was probably up and had nothing to loose.
confident also from the FFTT/KTTA training camp, but you don't just beat someone by training with them

 

[mnt]

an jaehyun is really fun to watch, some of the back table forehands today were crazy! im happy to see him succeeding , hope for a good match versus hugo

I noticed most of the S.Korean men players now have a really solid and strong forehand. For example AJH, Jang Woojin, and some other younger players which I don't remember their name. Only a few players out there could outplay them when it comes to a forehand-forehand counter rally.

 

[zeio]

yes but in terms of experience and character, non of the CNT member is anything special right now.

wang chuqin proved to be mentally unstable in the olympics/asian champs and lost to hugo

lin shidong is too young and lost to hugo

lin gaoyuan chokes and liang jingkun is a beast but he is not the smartest guy out there


In the wang hao wang liqin ma long era, none of them lost to a foreigner in consecutive tournaments in the same year. So the analogy is not so poor.

Ahem...

ML wasn't "anything special" back in late 2000s to early 2010s when he kept losing to Boll and Samsonov early on at World Cup 2008, World Cup 2009 (also lost to Oh Sangeun in the groups before winning the 3rd place match) and WTTC 2010. Not to mention his losses to Kishikawa in the MT F at ATTC 2009 and Chan Kazuhiro at World Team Cup 2010.

WLQ lost to Boll at World Cup 2002, Schlager at WTTC 2003 and Boll and Chiang Peng-Lung in the group stage at World Cup 2004.

MLin lost to JSH at WTTC 2003, Waldner at Athens 2004 and almost lost to Korbel (2-3 -> 4-3) at WTTC 2005.

WH lost to Chen Weixing at WTTC 2003, RSM at Athens 2004 and Maze at WTTC 2005.

 

[zeio]

Breaking your knee for over-celebrating is new... The FFTT folks have got to find a way to rein them in.

你们法兰西。。。。 (You French...)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9733692966

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https://youtu.be/hsnVcw_jsK0?t=16687

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

couldnt read but certainly wont be putting any weight on tieba users opinions going forward lol

 

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[zeio]

这个安东也是个神人 (This Anton is also an amazing dude [inference: wacko])
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9733764579

cheems想毕业 赛前放狠话：“我和林诗栋2次打到决胜局，我和他实力差不多，我有信心能击败他”
然后就被林诗栋打了个4比0
IP属地:河北来自Android客户端1楼2025-05-23 09:04回复
Before the match, he said: "Lin Shidong and I played to the final game twice. He and I are about the same in strength. I am confident that I can beat him." Then he was beaten 4-0 by Lin Shidong.

acdfjkl 他打着打着就愁眉苦脸才最难绷，默默就跳楼了，除了这点我还挺喜欢他的，能不能多向小莫学学，别跟林老叔张本似的
IP属地:广东来自Android客户端5楼2025-05-23 09:50收起回复
(The most difficult thing was that he would frown while fighting, and then he jumped off the building silently. Apart from this, I quite like him. Can he learn more from Little Mo[regard] and not be like Uncle Lin and Harimoto?)
欢天喜地的鱼: 学不了一点。安东身体素质这么好，正反手基本功都这么好，结果三大赛就是没有单打牌，最好成绩世乒赛16强，跟心态还是有很大关系的。奥运会安东采访不是说他跟Tomo打，老佩也说不出什么了，他只记得小莫说的不要害怕tomo反手，就给反手然后想办法转正手吗？心态球商可能是天生的
2025-5-23 11:05回复
(Can't learn one bit. Anton has such good physical fitness and basic forehand and backhand skills, but he hasn't gotten a singles medal in the three majors. His best result is R16 in the WTTC. It has a lot to do with his mentality. Didn't Anton say that when he played against Tomo in the Olympics that Old Per[sson] couldn't come up with anything. He just remembered that Little Mo said not to be afraid of Tomo's backhand, just give him the backhand and then find a way to turn to the forehand? Mentality and TTQ may be innate)

筱塚大灯 瑞典的林高远
IP属地:上海来自Android客户端11楼2025-05-23 11:06回复
(Lin Gaoyuan of Sweden)

林诗栋（黑化版） “当然不能妄想4:0横扫”然后就被横扫了
IP属地:安徽来自iPhone客户端13楼2025-05-23 11:08回复
("Of course I can't dream of a 4:0 sweep" and then he got swept)

妖尾的星辰 赐名瑞🎲
IP属地:浙江来自iPhone客户端19楼2025-05-23 11:35收起回复
(Bestowing the title "Dice of Sweden")
似有却无€: 瑞🎲一直都是他
2025-5-23 12:16回复
(Dice of Sweden has always been him)

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...nis-championships-2025-doha.36703/post-524068

Please also remember you're quoting a league match that is of little significance. Using a league match to prove a point, man... Remember Kallberg?