kicked out of mytabletennis

[Pnachtwey]

I sympathize with Sabas-Aguirre.

I have visited Sabas Aquirre's site and I see nothing objectionable. I don't agree with all his opinions but none of us will. However I found nothing that would make me want to ban Sabas just because he posted a link to his site.

On engineering forums and other it is perfectly acceptable to post a link to your website. Some even have entries for you to do this in your private setup areas so the link shows up in your signature area. If you want me to provide examples I can.

The other TT forum are paranoid or stupid.

BTW, I am an assistent moderator on another TT site. I think my views are different because I am familiar with engineering forums and they work differently. There are more facts involved. I have never banned anybody and only deleted some non TT relevant spam. I know there will be differences in opinions but I expect people to back up their claims when things start to get nasty. Most can't do that. Fortunately I have never been put in that position, yet.

 

[sebas-aguirre]

A moderator needs to be aware that a range of users (different levels of sense, age and computer know how) are going to be using a site. They have to moderate accordingly.

When you log onto your blog you get a pop up (yes this is advertising and it is not table tennis related) and underneath your title is a "download or play" button that some could think is part of the blog. It is not part of the blog but to some that may not be clear. Most sites do not like advertising without prior agreement and also the advert should be related to the theme of the site. If when you hit your link the first thing that you could see is a pop up advert I can understand the moderator being less than pleased.

Posting and moaning on one site is not going to change the decisions made on another. Time would probably be better spent understanding the moderators point of view and seeing if you can change the way your blog appears. I have seen plenty of blogs that do not have pop ups or download this buttons.

You need to conform to their rules not them to yours. Four temporary bans and did you change anything in order to prevent it happening again? Did you ask for clarification?

Sorry if this comes across as a bit harsh but communication and understanding is needed (and yes that works both ways) so all users can have a relaxed time.

I think some people fail to understand the message.
my blog is not an online shop or a place where readers are supposed to have a pleasant experience because I am trying to sell something or have some type of gain.
it's a personal blog and I do what I want with it, put as many popups as I want, publish the info I want, give it the style I want....
if you don't like it I invite you in a friendly way to stay away from it.

 

[Belisar]

it's a personal blog and I do what I want with it, put as many popups as I want, publish the info I want, give it the style I want....
if you don't like it I invite you in a friendly way to stay away from it.

Yes it is your blog and you do what you want with it. But if you are not willing to change it in order for a moderator to find it acceptable you can hardly blame them for doing what they want.

I am bemused by your attitude. You admit you do not like posting on forums due to people being able to respond and even perhaps disagreeing with you and yet you come on here and post a moan (admittedly not then liking it when people try to offer advice). You need forums in order to post links to your blog and yet to do not want to amend your blog in order for moderators of that web site to accept it. If it is your blog and all for you, if you do not like forums that allow responses and no one else matters why do you keep posting links on forums?

Even if I have sympathy for the ban - you lose it completely when you are so inflexible and simply say if you do not like it stay away. Do not blame others for not changing if you are not willing to do the same yourself.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

I agree with Belisar. And I really find it strange how argumentative and confrontational you are about things, and how, you misread stuff and argue, even about things that were not being said.

Here are some quotes that make me think something strange is going on that is causing you problems that you are creating for yourself:

I don't understand this paranoia about pop ups.
if a pop-up shows just close it.
takes less than one second to do that....

I looked at your site, they do seem pretty annoying and I could understand if a moderator on a forum did not want people being brought to that. Yes, I would not go to your site. No, you are not advertising or selling anything on your blog. But the pop ups definitely are.

I could have stopped the discussion hundreds of times in both forums and never get kicked out.
but to me belonging to mytt or ooak or here means nothing that's why many times I pushed the envelope on purpose to get on their nerves and see how far they would go.

Sounds like you were instigating and causing trouble.

they could have just let it be and things would have calmed down, I would have kept posting a link every now and then (making them a favor because I'm actually posting in their forum) and that would be it.
but they couldn't do that.

It sounds like you think it was okay for you to instigate, cause trouble and argue with the moderators, but it was not okay for them to tell you that you were banned. They obviously did not think you were doing them a favor by posting your links. Perhaps the people you complained about for posting links and trying to sell things were not causing other kinds of trouble on the forum and making things hard for the moderators. Again, this has to do with your argumentative attitude that have actually noticed in other posts and other threads where you sort of seem to be trying to bully people.

they were wrong in both cases (I showed examples of other users who do the same thing as me all the time).
they didn't show respect and interest in keeping me as a user

That is your argumentative attitude once again. They obviously, not only did not want to keep you as a forum member. They banned you for some reason, and my guess is that it had more to do with things like you telling them they were wrong without knowing what they were saying, and you instigating and trying to see how far you could push them before they kicked you out. At least that is what you said you did in a quote above.

I say what I think, if you like it read, if not move on.

But I have noticed that, sometimes what you say has to do with you having misunderstood what you read. And then arguing about something that was not actually even presented.

correct but I showed them many examples of users who advertise their site all the time and yet they never even got a warning.
it's clear they have something personal against me.
I've also been banned from ooak now, since the guys who run ooak and mytt basically think the same way, and in many cases are "virtual" friends.

It may very well be that they have something personal against you. And that might have to do with how you present yourself. Them having a strong reaction to you personally and not to others who did not argue with them and try and push things and cause trouble may be entirely personal and you may have something to do with why they do not appreciate your personality.

I don't really know. Just some stuff I thought as I read many of the things you wrote. I am not presenting any of this to argue or criticize. If you read and think about things, you can perhaps see how you even say yourself that you caused the problem. Who knows, perhaps you don't want to correct it and just want to go on being argumentative. But if you wanted to change things, the place to look is in your comments, your attitude and your aggressive, argumentative stance. That might turn people off and cause moderators on sites a hard time. They might end up feeling that they would rather not have you on the site if you keep arguing with them. Again, I don't know. But, that is what I see from how you have responded to people here so far in this thread and in others.

 

[Der_Echte]

@Carl, you have enough life experience to know some will want to argue and argue, even beat a dead horse back to life and kill it again for the sake of it all. Let's just leave it alone. many people on the TT forums have enough sense to sort out the bullshyt and the good stuff.

SA can holler all he wants on his blog and that is fine.

His constituional rights do not apply to a TT forum and the management of a TT forum can do as they please regarding him and his behavior.

Kieffer Sutherland said that once in a movie and it sounded real cool. He captured someone and that individual though he could get away by reminding Kiefer sutherland's character that he had constitutional rights. That character said in a cool and menacing manner "Your constitutional rights no longer apply!"

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

@Carl, you have enough life experience to know some will want to argue and argue, even beat a dead horse back to life and kill it again for the sake of it all. Let's just leave it alone. many people on the TT forums have enough sense to sort out the bullshyt and the good stuff.

SA can holler all he wants on his blog and that is fine.

His constituional rights do not apply to a TT forum and the management of a TT forum can do as they please regarding him and his behavior.

Kieffer Sutherland said that once in a movie and it sounded real cool. He captured someone and that individual though he could get away by reminding Kiefer sutherland's character that he had constitutional rights. That character said in a cool and menacing manner "Your constitutional rights no longer apply!"

Yeah, Okay. I agree.

 

[sebas-aguirre]

anyway, to wrap this up....

1- moderators of mytt and ooak were wrong and proved their ego beats their common sense every time.
the particular situation I had in mytt and ooak is not important at this point and it is completely useless to discuss it here because it is something between me and the moderators.

2- popups stay there because they make me very happy.

3- I will keep posting links to my blog when I feel like it wherever I am able to.
if I am not able to post links to my blog anywhere I don't care.
it's not like I'm gaining anything from my blog, the only ones who win are the readers.

4- I will keep posting threads about this or about other subjects that I feel deserve a thread, here and in any other tt forum where I have a user.

5- of course anybody who wants to read my blog is invited to come.

 

[dyu2012]

Relax. MTT is a forum owned by a commie rat, admined by 50-cents & fags, and associated with Adham Sharara, what do you expect? Democracy?

 

[sebas-aguirre]

I have visited Sabas Aquirre's site and I see nothing objectionable. I don't agree with all his opinions but none of us will. However I found nothing that would make me want to ban Sabas just because he posted a link to his site.

On engineering forums and other it is perfectly acceptable to post a link to your website. Some even have entries for you to do this in your private setup areas so the link shows up in your signature area. If you want me to provide examples I can.

The other TT forum are paranoid or stupid.

BTW, I am an assistent moderator on another TT site. I think my views are different because I am familiar with engineering forums and they work differently. There are more facts involved. I have never banned anybody and only deleted some non TT relevant spam. I know there will be differences in opinions but I expect people to back up their claims when things start to get nasty. Most can't do that. Fortunately I have never been put in that position, yet.

if you could only write the name correctly.....