LA 2028 Olympics - 6 Events

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I came across this news article where JTTA executive director Yoshihito Miyazaki was interviewed on his thoughts on the addition of Men's Doubles, Women's Doubles, and Mixed Team for the LA 2028 Olympics

卓球　２８年ロス五輪に混合団体＆男女ダブルス追加で宮崎専務理事「日本にとって有利」選手選考は従来通りシングルス優先か/デイリースポーツ online

国際オリンピック委員会（ＩＯＣ）は９日、スイス・ローザンヌで理事会を行い、２８年ロサンゼルス五輪の実施種目などを発表した。卓球では男女それぞれの団体種目がなくなり、新たに混合団体と男女それぞれのダブルスが追加。従来の男女シングルスと混合ダブ...

www.daily.co.jp

The article confirmed that the maximum quota for each NOC is 3 per gender. Therefore, each NOC like Japan for example can only send 3 men and 3 women to compete across all 6 events. It seems Miyazaki hinted that Japan would still follow a similar selection method as previous Olympics- 2 singles players and 1 more player recommended by training headquarters. Miyazaki also hinted that while the selection method for the next Olympics hasn't been confirmed, he is leaning towards putting more emphasis in World Rankings when choosing the 2 singles players for Japan.

If JTTA does end up sticking with the same selection method of choosing 2 singles players and 1 player recommended by training headquarters, it be limiting as to the number of possible number of good doubles combinations Japan can produce since the 2 singles players selected through WR for example may not necessarily be good in doubles or may not necessarily pair well with other teammates. It may be wise for JTTA to reassess the impact of the addition of these 2 doubles events and the mixed team event before it releases the final selection method for the 2028 LA Olympics

 

[driversbeat]

I came across this news article where JTTA executive director Yoshihito Miyazaki was interviewed on his thoughts on the addition of Men's Doubles, Women's Doubles, and Mixed Team for the LA 2028 Olympics

卓球　２８年ロス五輪に混合団体＆男女ダブルス追加で宮崎専務理事「日本にとって有利」選手選考は従来通りシングルス優先か/デイリースポーツ online

国際オリンピック委員会（ＩＯＣ）は９日、スイス・ローザンヌで理事会を行い、２８年ロサンゼルス五輪の実施種目などを発表した。卓球では男女それぞれの団体種目がなくなり、新たに混合団体と男女それぞれのダブルスが追加。従来の男女シングルスと混合ダブ...

www.daily.co.jp

The article confirmed that the maximum quota for each NOC is 3 per gender. Therefore, each NOC like Japan for example can only send 3 men and 3 women to compete across all 6 events. It seems Miyazaki hinted that Japan would still follow a similar selection method as previous Olympics- 2 singles players and 1 more player recommended by training headquarters. Miyazaki also hinted that while the selection method for the next Olympics hasn't been confirmed, he is leaning towards putting more emphasis in World Rankings when choosing the 2 singles players for Japan.

If JTTA does end up sticking with the same selection method of choosing 2 singles players and 1 player recommended by training headquarters, it be limiting as to the number of possible number of good doubles combinations Japan can produce since the 2 singles players selected through WR for example may not necessarily be good in doubles or may not necessarily pair well with other teammates. It may be wise for JTTA to reassess the impact of the addition of these 2 doubles events and the mixed team event before it releases the final selection method for the 2028 LA Olympics

Silly move to keep max quota. So close to opening up careers for many more players but no cigar.
JTTA's response... lmao just business as usual.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Another fake news from a certain member, beside going on and on how the XTWC was useless and yet was butthurt...
ITTF Mixed Team World Cup 2023, Chengdu, 12/4-10
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...ld-cup-2023-chengdu-12-4-10.31810/post-436877
https://web.archive.org/web/20240129192415/http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://mytabletennis.net/forum/ittf-mixed-team-world-cup-2023-chengdu-12-410_topic93561_page3.html (12/13/2023 at 1:04am)

when people don't agree with you, or if you don't agree with people, you just insult - this kind of post just shows how immature you are after so many years of still being a kid.

tell me, how many teams took part in the 2 editions of mixed team world cup and how many team sent reserve players, or even players not in the national team? those are facts that you can never bend, even when you and your tieba mate think otherwise.

You need to know, you can't bully the world to accept your views.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

JTTA's response... lmao just business as usual.

They are looking at 2 singles, and the rest 1 entries.
JTTA is not wrong in stating mixed teams world cup - only few countries are threats, while 90% others are just there to fill the quotas.
Many teams do not have enough strong players of both genders to become a threat.

However, I would love that players can only enter in teams and one individual event, leaving singles and doubles players being separate players.

 

[zeio]

Silly move to keep max quota. So close to opening up careers for many more players but no cigar.
JTTA's response... lmao just business as usual.

Miyazaki couldn't be happier about the news given how vulnerable the MT is without Harimoto. All they care about are the medals, and that means events. At the core of it, the players are merely a means to an end. So much for "all other countries are all independent."

 

[zeio]

when people don't agree with you, or if you don't agree with people, you just insult - this kind of post just shows how immature you are after so many years of still being a kid.

tell me, how many teams took part in the 2 editions of mixed team world cup and how many team sent reserve players, or even players not in the national team? those are facts that you can never bend, even when you and your tieba mate think otherwise.

You need to know, you can't bully the world to accept your views.

Shine couldn't have addressed it better last year. Your latest gaffe (among others) doesn't present you in the best light. See how it gets done with my way.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Shine couldn't have addressed it better last year. Your latest gaffe (among others) doesn't present you in the best light. See how it gets done with my way.

just answer the simple question

how many teams took part in the 2 editions of mixed team world cup and how many team sent reserve players, or even players not in the national team?

its okay to talk the truth for a change.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Miyazaki couldn't be happier about the news given how vulnerable the MT is without Harimoto. All they care about are the medals, and that means events. At the core of it, the players are merely a means to an end. So much for "all other countries are all independent."

if you so knowledgeable about Japan

tell me, and all of us, why are they not "independent"?
Is it a national team model, where the country develop and fund the players?
or is it all privately/individually done, or are they like CNT - from C team to B team to A team - all gov employees from youth.
and all players follow the leadership/head coaches, or are they all individual units where there is no coach (worthy) to lead all of them.

lets hear facts now, other than your circle of spinning to dodge the bullet.

to say because the core is to gain medals, makes it CNT style.... that is a bit spinning too much.
If only you could spin a table tennis ball like that.... but... ob

 

[zeio]

Miyazaki couldn't be happier about the news given how vulnerable the MT is without Harimoto. All they care about are the medals, and that means events. At the core of it, the players are merely a means to an end. So much for "all other countries are all independent."

Dug up a long post from late 2019 about the Japanese blogger kittyyoyaji questioning Miyazaki's stance on the necessity of making mechanical selection for the Olympics.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...-race-to-tokyo-2020-singles.20935/post-298898

Miyazaki's passage goes like this:

First, out of the 3 representatives, select up to 2 from the top of the world ranking. And the 3rd is a player who can play doubles with either of them. If the top 2 are both right-handed, the top left-handed player should be chosen. If the top 2 dominant hands are split between left and right, choose the player ranked 3rd.
Another thing is that we have the notion that “cutman and attackman (offensive-type players who excel at driving) cannot form doubles.” So, if 1 of the top 2 are cutman, the 3rd player is likely to be a cutman. If the top 2 are attackman, the 3rd player is likely to be an attackman.
In this way, unfairness arises unless a certain level of mechanical selection is made.

 

[zeio]

This completely changes the selection process. It will be absolutely crazy if they want the exact same players for all 3 events. Good singles players =/= Good MD/WD players =/= Good XD players. Stonks for Hirano and Ito just crashed and Kihara, Nagasaki, Hashimoto, Sato, Yokoi, and Odo's value just went way up.

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Not sure if I read the document correctly but seems like they are indeed keeping the total limit to 6 players per country.

Kishikawa's and Nakazawa's latest comments on LA28 made clear they still value singles more than ever. Besides, the risk of fielding inexperienced players is too high in new events.

 

[Brs]

If the Olympics was this Summer, JTTA should put Odo and Yokoi in Women's Team.

That is their best and only chance to win another medal of actual gold, to go with the Ito/Mizutani XD gold.

Miwa as the 3rd WJNT also gives them their best chance at the now-traditional singles bronze.

By 2028 of course things could be different.

MJNT idk, wgaf, not me.

 

[zeio]

If the Olympics was this Summer, JTTA should put Odo and Yokoi in Women's Team.

That is their best and only chance to win another medal of actual gold, to go with the Ito/Mizutani XD gold.

Miwa as the 3rd WJNT also gives them their best chance at the now-traditional singles bronze.

By 2028 of course things could be different.

MJNT idk, wgaf, not me.

The reason Odo/Yokoi are the highest-ranked is exactly because their other teammates and pairs from other associations didn't value the doubles before this. Count how many pairs don't even have 8 eligible events. Odo/Yokoi are WR1 in name only. Losing to Sato/Hashimoto in 3 games at WTT F Fukuoka 2024 popped that bubble.

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2025_15_SEN_WD.html
1 Odo/Yokoi 11 events
2 Sato/Hashimoto 7
3 WYD/SYS 4 (but 0 points for 1 event)
4 QTY/CXT 2
5 WMY/KM 2
6 CIC/Li Yu-Jhun 4
7 Kihara/Harimoto 5
8 Nagasaki/Kihara 3
9 Balazova/Matelova 7
10 Bajor/Kukulkova 11
11 Polcvano/Szocs 4

 

[PoppaChubby]

I guess this is China's way of telling the rest of the world, you have to take the Mixed Team World Cup seriously.

Or to tell Trump diversity matters hahaha

More seriously, it's an attack from the ATTU for sure, Japan and Korea men's teams are really frustrated since the last WTTTC and Olympics cos' they got nearly nothing. We all know the mixed event favors asian nations with China 1st, Japan 2nd/3rd and Korea 2nd/3rd.

It's a direct attack against Europe, more of it all.

 

[Crepche]

At this stage I’m thinking the Japans Womens Team. With Japan womens doubles there is Hashimoto/Sato, Odo/Yokoi, Miwa/Miyu Kihara so they should get rid of 3 per gender/nation as doubles pair might not make the best individual singles player and vice versa.

Sweden Men’s team, Falck/Karlsson probably the best mens doubles for Sweden.

I can’t think of anyone else who would be outside of 3 per gender/association.

I’m thinking of the Lebrun brothers at this post

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

More seriously, it's an attack from the ATTU for sure, Japan and Korea men's teams are really frustrated since the last WTTTC and Olympics cos' they got nearly nothing. We all know the mixed event favors asian nations with China 1st, Japan 2nd/3rd and Korea 2nd/3rd.

It's a direct attack against Europe, more of it all.

I am still waiting for ttd couch coach zeio to tell me stats about how many teams entered the previous 2 mixed teams world cup and how many of those teams had main players refusing to play - thus b, c or d team was sent (yes, including players not even in the national team).

I couldn't ask the same "expert" about how many top players went and didn't play seriously
I know over a dozen players in person that played in these "world cup".
So, I do have some first hand feedback.

and you are right, other than China, Japan and Korea, there is little to no contest between the other nations.
Teams event (normal 5 match, 3 player) is already very tough to beat a stronger nation, where you need to seek 3 match wins.

Now with games(set) wins of 8, even if your top players scored something, you are bound to make sure the 2nd part of your team needs to fire up too.

Take team Sweden as example (the MA that pushed for XDWC):

2023 team

2024 team

yes, the team is getting weaker. and without 2 strong womens and 2 strong mens, the contest is actually very little to none.
now the timing of the world cup (other than the 1st edition being for rushed and players not clear of the rules/match format) wasn't great - at the end of a "new WTT" crazy schedule year for the players. They were tired and need some serious rest (think about playing 15+ events in a 12 month calendar year).

JNT players didn't even want to take part and send b teams too - until we knew who forced who with threats so JTTA had to force JNT to comply with a full force team.

The mixed teams, is a good idea - there is a fun element to it - I actually like it a lot.
But it should remain in club level - like UTT and MLTT in a way.
For international level, the countries will be very unbalanced.
In club level, the team can hire and balance the team... in countries,,,, you can't just balance the team and the gap will just widen.

Give you an example, England men's few years ago could challenge the world, the womens can't. Would the English mens fight they life off to win a "non winnable" mixed event? maybe... but in pro life, "world" event only has national pride, and they still need to go back to they "pro" work space to earn a living. You not going to risk your body in harms way for national pride, unless it is like a jackpot and you could be set for the next few years.
You could replace England with Sweden, and clearly, some of the top Swedes feel no need to take part, and one that did, chose to rest in the 2nd edition.

Maybe the Germans might start taking it serious now, since they could be medal contenders on a good day.
but this is their experience so far:
2023 vs 2024, and a huge drop in world ranking average

 

[JackJohnson]

With these 6 events being confirmed I’m guessing it’s too late to re-add Mens and Womens team back into it?

Who decided it was a good idea to remove Mens and Womens team at the Olympics?

From the Japanese article it was stated only 6 players per association (3 per gender) was this limit due to ITTF or IOC? Why limit the amount of players that can be utilised. There are players better at doubles and there are players better at singles. Not all players are good at both singles and doubles.

 

[Shine]

The reason Odo/Yokoi are the highest-ranked is exactly because their other teammates and pairs from other associations didn't value the doubles before this. Count how many pairs don't even have 8 eligible events. Odo/Yokoi are WR1 in name only. Losing to Sato/Hashimoto in 3 games at WTT F Fukuoka 2024 popped that bubble.

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2025_15_SEN_WD.html
1 Odo/Yokoi 11 events
2 Sato/Hashimoto 7
3 WYD/SYS 4 (but 0 points for 1 event)
4 QTY/CXT 2
5 WMY/KM 2
6 CIC/Li Yu-Jhun 4
7 Kihara/Harimoto 5
8 Nagasaki/Kihara 3
9 Balazova/Matelova 7
10 Bajor/Kukulkova 11
11 Polcvano/Szocs 4

So they basically have points than comparable pairs because they played more events. This lends credence to my argument recently in the Lebruns' saga thread. Thanks.

 

[zeio]

So they basically have points than comparable pairs because they played more events. This lends credence to my argument recently in the Lebruns' saga thread. Thanks.

It's even more severe in MD. The Lebrun brothers played high-tier events only.

https://www.ittf.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2025_15_SEN_MD.html
1 Lebrun/Lebrun 5
2 Togami/Shinozuka 7
3 Harimoto/Matsushima 9
4 LJK/WCQ 2
5 Bourrassaud/Dorr 9
6 WCQ/LSD 1
7 LGY/LSD 3
8 YLC/XP 6
9 Thakkar/Shah 10
10 LYJ/KCJ 1
11 Pang Koen/Quek Izaac 12

 

[Bollwerk]

No, what I mean is you can increase the number of players while keeping the same number (6) of events so increasing the number of players does not affect the scheduling. Thus, no good reason not to increase the available pool of players.

Athlete quotas that sports receive in the Olympics are the most limited resource, ITTF has no control over player count.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Athlete quotas that sports receive in the Olympics are the most limited resource, ITTF has no control over player count.

imagine if we have swimming and you expect the same athlete to participate in 3 different fields.