Looking for a Fh Rubber

[NextLevel]

playing powerful backhand openers is not something I need to improve the most at this level yet. I would neglect improving my fh. The list is already big and this one is far down the prio list.

And to the others:
Funny how some people stick around giving “tips” they can’t even explain, as if clinging to this thread makes them right.
A few days ago, I might have been annoyed by them cluttering my thread. But now, it doesn’t bother me—they’re just keeping the thread alive for those who actually want to give honest advice.

One thing that bothers me the most is I am running out of time. But I will leave this place soon not sure how far else I will go to but hopefully I can be somewhere where tabletennis is more lively and where I get better trainingspartner and competition. But that depends on a lot of variables now. I will know more in a few months I think.

The forum is not about you, lol. The forum is for everyone to have conversations about whatever is posted on it. You can post anywhere. Anyone can post here. It is good it doesn't bother you anymore since it obviously did enough just a few days ago.

The reason why a swinging with power is important os not because one is going to use it in a match but because the swing speed generated produces confidence when fhe ball needs that quality of swing to get it moving, sometimes it is timing that changes the speed tonspin ratio not swing speed. You will soon face players who will challenge your ability to open and who will counter your openings more aggressively. The funny thing is that you keep complaining about your forehand technique even though as you can clearly see, it was hardly holding you back, you just continued to know better than everyone else what you could or couldn't do to win matches. If the vaunted and mesmerizing technique hasn't shown up in matches and yet you are still winning the matches just by being more aggressive and selecting shots better, doesn't that tell you something?

I gave the example of Marcos Freitas who swings hard in practice but plays a lot of brush spins in matches. It does happen at all levels.

 

[Zezima]

The forum is not about you, lol. The forum is for everyone to have conversations about whatever is posted on it. You can post anywhere. Anyone can post here. It is good it doesn't bother you anymore since it obviously did enough just a few days ago.

The reason why a swinging with power is important os not because one is going to use it in a match but because the swing speed generated produces confidence when fhe ball needs that quality of swing to get it moving, sometimes it is timing that changes the speed tonspin ratio not swing speed. You will soon face players who will challenge your ability to open and who will counter your openings more aggressively. The funny thing is that you keep complaining about your forehand technique even though as you can clearly see, it was hardly holding you back, you just continued to know better than everyone else what you could or couldn't do to win matches. If the vaunted and mesmerizing technique hasn't shown up in matches and yet you are still winning the matches just by being more aggressive and selecting shots better, doesn't that tell you something?

I gave the example of Marcos Freitas who swings hard in practice but plays a lot of brush spins in matches. It does happen at all levels.

I hope that "soon" happens for real. That would mean I make atleast 300 TTR which is big already. Right now though I have other areas to work on.

And I know my game better than those who watch for 15sec and call them experts here and get butthurt if I challenge them. I don't force anyone to comment or watch my videos fully. But I just find it funny it's the same people. Their entire purpose is spreading toxicity instead of genuinly trying to help.

But as with my suboptimal training environment I will have to do the best with what I can get and appreciate the honest feedback even more - even though they are hiding between those slimes.

And yes even though it doesn't show up in my matchplay yet doesn't mean it's not worth to keep working on it. If my aim is to be more aggressive it has to be done.

 

[NextLevel]

I hope that "soon" happens for real. That would mean I make atleast 300 TTR which is big already. Right now though I have other areas to work on.

And I know my game better than those who watch for 15sec and call them experts here and get butthurt if I challenge them. I don't force anyone to comment or watch my videos fully. But I just find it funny it's the same people. Their entire purpose is spreading toxicity instead of genuinly trying to help.

But as with my suboptimal training environment I will have to do the best with what I can get and appreciate the honest feedback even more - even though they are hiding between those slimes.

And yes even though it doesn't show up in my matchplay yet doesn't mean it's not worth to keep working on it. If my aim is to be more aggressive it has to be done.

So who are these people spreading toxicity rather than trying to help? The people who recommended that you switch to a rubber like T19 a year ago? The people who have posted lots of recommendations based on their experience? The people who have analyzed and watched your videos and posted lots of comments mostly to be met with ingratitude? If you know your game, why are you posting for comments? Because you like the attention? Because you enjoy being ungrateful?

Curious who these toxic people are and what makes them toxic. In fact, calling posts "slimes" is interesting. But in the modern world, one man's meat is very much another man's poison.

Many of us live in subpotimal training environments and got better in suboptimal training environments relative to the level we aspire to play at. Don't take it as something that only you have done. What most of us are sharing is how we got past some of those environments and based on our experiences some of the risks of the approaches you are taking.

Since you are willing to slime people for what you perceive as slime, all is well and good. No one should hold the higher moral ground for it.

As for "soon", you don't have to improve for it to happen. In fact, many players you beat in a tournament, if they play in the same environment, talk to each other about how to beat each other and come up with countermeasures.

 

[sebi]

If you struggle with shot placement in matches. You can position your trainingspartner more in the places you want to hit.
I.e. if you do falkenberg get him to stay right in the corner to block with his backhand not the middle of backhand side.

 

[andymagata]

Asking questions in forums like this is not very optimal, could be contraproductive and dangerous at worst. There are advice that’s great, and here and there are pure gold nuggets. Most are out of context. Questions are condensed and over simplified, answers are shots with imaginary targets.

Better to ask AI.

Better yet, buy a good ping skills book.

Better yet, get a good coach.

 

[Zezima]

So who are these people spreading toxicity rather than trying to help? The people who recommended that you switch to a rubber like T19 a year ago? The people who have posted lots of recommendations based on their experience? The people who have analyzed and watched your videos and posted lots of comments mostly to be met with ingratitude? If you know your game, why are you posting for comments? Because you like the attention? Because you enjoy being ungrateful?

Curious who these toxic people are and what makes them toxic. In fact, calling posts "slimes" is interesting. But in the modern world, one man's meat is very much another man's poison.

Many of us live in subpotimal training environments and got better in suboptimal training environments relative to the level we aspire to play at. Don't take it as something that only you have done. What most of us are sharing is how we got past some of those environments and based on our experiences some of the risks of the approaches you are taking.

Since you are willing to slime people for what you perceive as slime, all is well and good. No one should hold the higher moral ground for it.

As for "soon", you don't have to improve for it to happen. In fact, many players you beat in a tournament, if they play in the same environment, talk to each other about how to beat each other and come up with countermeasures.

I personally don't remember anyone recommending me T19 I know you put "like" before but you can't really compare other esn rubbers with a tenergy rubber since they use different tech.

I wouldn't call watching 15sek analyzing my videos. But I guess we can agree to disagree here. Funny that you as a moderator (still wondering who made you a mod in first place) instead of calming down the people and actually moderating so people stay on topic and be objective you put more fuel instead. And stop acting dumb I know you know very well who those people are.

I don't know why you get so defensive just because I said I am working on getting into a better environment. I didn't boast and there is nothing to boast about being in a bad environment to grow. And I think I still proved my ability to climb by training with 1100 rated players and reaching 1500+.

I will let the slimes be slimes. It's ok if the moderator doesn't do anything about them why should I care. Gotta ignore and move on as I said.

Yeah maybe they will come with a different plan but I am still confident in my abilities that in the long run I will just come ahead. Those few losses in between don't mean much. Even the best players lose. And at the end of the day win or lose as long as you are happy and put a good fight thats what counts atleast for me. You can disagree ofc.

 

[Zezima]

If you struggle with shot placement in matches. You can position your trainingspartner more in the places you want to hit.
I.e. if you do falkenberg get him to stay right in the corner to black with his backhand not the middle of backhand side.

That is worth asking them to do.

 

[Zezima]

Asking questions in forums like this is not very optimal, could be contraproductive and dangerous at worst. There are advice that’s great, and here and there are pure gold nuggets. Most are out of context. Questions are condensed and over simplified, answers are shots with imaginary targets.

Better to ask AI.

Better yet, buy a good ping skills book.

Better yet, get a good coach.

I agree its not optimal. But there are some rare good inputs that I am fishing out. Gotta make the best out of the bad situation.

Still waiting for that AI that can analyze your matchvideos and give you good advice.

I asked for coaches around my place but there seems none that I can reach out atm. There are some who do it private in their clubs (I heard) but not sure how to reach them. That would be the best ofc.
I am also checking out bit further away for good trainingscamps. Will also be in London end of april I think might find someone there. But I assume there its very expensive. I don't know until 1800TTR or a bit higher even I would just improve with better players just by playing and what I know already. That has a higher prio than having a coach atm.

Also I will rest this thread for now since I am done talking about fh rubber. My focus is about training, the few league matches thats left and lots of tournaments in germany.

 

[NextLevel]

I personally don't remember anyone recommending me T19 I know you put "like" before but you can't really compare other esn rubbers with a tenergy rubber since they use different tech.

I wouldn't call watching 15sek analyzing my videos. But I guess we can agree to disagree here. Funny that you as a moderator (still wondering who made you a mod in first place) instead of calming down the people and actually moderating so people stay on topic and be objective you put more fuel instead. And stop acting dumb I know you know very well who those people are.

I don't know why you get so defensive just because I said I am working on getting into a better environment. I didn't boast and there is nothing to boast about being in a bad environment to grow. And I think I still proved my ability to climb by training with 1100 rated players and reaching 1500+.

I will let the slimes be slimes. It's ok if the moderator doesn't do anything about them why should I care. Gotta ignore and move on as I said.

Yeah maybe they will come with a different plan but I am still confident in my abilities that in the long run I will just come ahead. Those few losses in between don't mean much. Even the best players lose. And at the end of the day win or lose as long as you are happy and put a good fight thats what counts atleast for me. You can disagree ofc.

So who watched 15 secs analyzing your videos? Can you name these people?

I was a poster before I became a moderator. I have posted on various forums since 2011 (some people have posted even longer than that). Your opinion is similar to some. My own thing is simple - I largely follow thr vision that that site owner has set. The last moderator was overwhelmed with personal life and was a good friend of mine so I volunteered in his stead.

You have your own view or what it takes to be a good moderator. Most of the people whoncriticize me.have never been moderators. Most of the people who have been moderators either find my behavior reasonable or even when that disagree with it, understand what is driving it.

People recommended that you move to a lesser hard and sticky rubber than D09c. You would get largely thr same results with many rubbers, T19 was just the one that you chose.

Lol l, I dont need to quote every post you have written complaining about your training environment and how you complain about it to point out that you feel special about it and that you got better in it. No need to gaslight anyone here. I even complimented you on it. The problem is that when people are nice to you, you act ungrateful so I just decided not to waste my time with it. You are not special with a bad training environment. Everyone who wants to improve figures our solutions. I had a friend who imported a coach to live with him for a few months. It can be that dire.

You are young so you will improve. Hopefully you will get to a level you are happy with because as Takkyu pointed out, claiming that there are no coaching opportunities and then travelling hours to play tournaments is not quite truthful.

You have not reported a single example of supposed slime. No other forum member has either. That says more than anything else.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

I'm pretty sure OP can and will get a better rating in the future. that he is young, skilled and motivated enough that his playing level will get better than many of us, but there's nothing to be much proud about, it will probably still be amateur and very average in the grand scheme of things.

Truly, if OP loves TT so much, I strongly believe he should pay for coaching, right now, because he will regret it later. He has now time and money. Later he may lack either one, and will also have form bad habits which would prevent faster progression. I speak from experience

I am not as optimistic as you - after 9 years and the amount of time he has put into it, major changes of habits and techniques are only accomplished by people who have very open minds and willingness to try and usually fail and deal with the setbacks that comes with it. Neither of which he has demonstrated.

The pattern is clear in people I know who were able to drastically change their level or at least how they play after many years of experience, and also the ones who weren't able to and continue going for years and nothing changes. Across all levels, this even goes for some top pros whose training situations and career trajectories I know closer than most.

 

[NextLevel]

I am not as optimistic as you - after 9 years and the amount of time he has put into it, major changes of habits and techniques are only accomplished by people who have very open minds and willingness to try and usually fail and deal with the setbacks that comes with it. Neither of which he has demonstrated.

The pattern is clear in people I know who were able to drastically change their level or at least how they play after many years of experience, and also the ones who weren't able to and continue going for years and nothing changes. Across all levels, this even goes for some top pros whose training situations and career trajectories I know closer than most.

So you don't think the way he plays right now in his videos is a significant contrast to how he played in his prior videos?

 

[ThePongCommenter]

So you don't think the way he plays right now in his videos is a significant contrast to how he played in his prior videos?

Haven't watched them recently since he made it clear he has no interest in my advice.

 

[K.K]

wow 191 answers for the search of a FH rubber. you are a lucky man that you didn't need to pay for the amount of engagement you got

 

[NextLevel]

Haven't watched them recently since he made it clear he has no interest in my advice.

He has changed his playing style significantly. It's a borderline miracle. This is the highest level player he has been able to beat so far. Not perfect, but a clear gap vs what he usually did.

EDIT: Had the player wrong - this was the player:

 

[NextLevel]

wow 191 answers for the search of a FH rubber. you are a lucky man that you didn't need to pay for the amount of engagement you got

Don't add to the "slime"...

 

[Zezima]

He has changed his playing style significantly. It's a borderline miracle. This is the highest level player he has been able to beat so far. Not perfect, but a clear gap vs what he usually did.

That is not true. Unless your timestamp is wrong by accident. The highest player I beat was the older man after him around 1670TTR. And the best player of the tournament who won every single game was the player after that. Around 1850TTR. Who has a body language of a 1000TTR and goes back but brings back every ball.

 

[Zezima]

wow 191 answers for the search of a FH rubber. you are a lucky man that you didn't need to pay for the amount of engagement you got

Yeah the title is misleading the discussion topic is all over the place since I have no control and the moderator doesn't care and feeds to it.

 

[NextLevel]

That is not true. Unless your timestamp is wrong by accident. The highest player I beat was the older man after him around 1670TTR. And the best player of the tournament who won every single game was the player after that. Around 1850TTR. Who has a body language of a 1000TTR and goes back but brings back every ball.

Not going to argue with you over your videos. Just tell us who Peter Schillinger is. You posted the ratings at the beginning of the video and I go with that. And I have watched enough of these videos to be relatively confident about who the players are, but if I am wrong, they are not my matches, they are yours, so you know better than I do. You can find the 1670 TTR rating in the summary you post at the beginning of the video and then show me how I missed it.

 

[Zezima]

Not going to argue with you over your videos. Just tell us who Peter Schillinger is. You posted the ratings at the beginning of the video and I go with that. And I have watched enough of these videos to be relatively confident about who the players are, but if I am wrong, they are not my matches, they are yours, so you know better than I do. You can find the 1670 TTR rating in the summary you post at the beginning of the video and then show me how I missed it.

The 1670 is peter schillinger that the dude right after the one you timestamped. The ratings at the beginning of the video shows you their QTTR rating. Thats only quarterly updated.

And steven the 1800+ player is the dude right after peter.

I don't know whats so complicated. I will do a better job next time. So it's clear who is who

 

[NextLevel]

The 1670 is peter schillinger that the dude right after the one you timestamped. The ratings at the beginning of the video shows you their QTTR rating. Thats only quarterly updated.

And steven the 1800+ player is the dude right after peter.

I don't know whats so complicated. I will do a better job next time. So it's clear who is who

I probably confused the video with highlights with being a video of different matches. so I was wrong. I will fix the reference. My apologies.