Medium Pips. I need recommendations

[amekun]

Here are the ones i've tried so far:
Dawei 388c1 with Air sponge 1.2 - too soft
Dawei 388c1 ox - less deception and too slow
Armstrong Attack 8 - too soft

Im looking for something that is easier to attack serves with. Hard and Fast. Punches gives off knuckle balls.

Thank you

 

[Peter93]

Which version of attack 8 did you use? Because it comes in sponge hardnesses up to 53 deg. There's also the version of 388C-1 with a normal sponge which I've tried which is quite hard.

 

[androlover]

Dr neubauer has good medium pips

 

[Rizve Hasan]

I play with Friendship 563. Cheap but good.

 

[amekun]

Which version of attack 8 did you use? Because it comes in sponge hardnesses up to 53 deg. There's also the version of 388C-1 with a normal sponge which I've tried which is quite hard.

I used the regular version. The 388c-1 I used said japanese sponge on the label but it was too soft for me.

 

[amekun]

Dr neubauer has good medium pips

such as? got any recommendations? there is a lot to choose from

 

[amekun]

I play with Friendship 563. Cheap but good.

I tried this one too. its slightly harder but still too soft for me. I appreciate the recommendation

 

[Der_Echte]

There are two people in the world to ask this to... Megha Kambrath (an American/India femal vet player go figure) of Hegagis hizzself @haggisv

 

[Draycott old man]

I use Dr N Aggressor Pro Red 1.5mm Sponge , my game has improved so much since using this rubber. My service return is so good now I can put my opponents in a lot of trouble with my service return. The best thing about this rubber is attacking as it produces a horrible ball to defend against as my opponents never really know what's coming there way when I attack as there are subtle changes like no spin slight topspin slight backspin but enough to put your opponent's off !!! I can chop really well with it even though it's been reported to not be it's strength. Blocking topspin with a soft grip produces a nasty knuckle ball !! I would only try it in 1.5 mm as it has such good around attack and defense!!!!

 

[amekun]

I use Dr N Aggressor Pro Red 1.5mm Sponge , my game has improved so much since using this rubber. My service return is so good now I can put my opponents in a lot of trouble with my service return. The best thing about this rubber is attacking as it produces a horrible ball to defend against as my opponents never really know what's coming there way when I attack as there are subtle changes like no spin slight topspin slight backspin but enough to put your opponent's off !!! I can chop really well with it even though it's been reported to not be it's strength. Blocking topspin with a soft grip produces a nasty knuckle ball !! I would only try it in 1.5 mm as it has such good around attack and defense!!!!

Thank you for the recommendation. Ill definitely check it out.

 

[mikeytt]

One of my team mates uses Dr Neubauer killer extreme which feels quite horrible to play against, lots of effect on the ball. he punches with them to great success and i must really lift the ball to return it which is difficult as the ball is coming so quick.

edit: upon more investigation they are actually short pips but play like medium

 

[Draycott old man]

One of my team mates uses Dr Neubauer killer extreme which feels quite horrible to play against, lots of effect on the ball. he punches with them to great success and i must really lift the ball to return it which is difficult as the ball is coming so quick.

edit: upon more investigation they are actually short pips but play like medium

Dr N Killer is another top product from Dr N his products are not cheap but always come with excellent quality!!! The best thing is if you get on with them they last for years!!! If you don't you will soon sell them on eBay !!!

 

[Tyce]

Do knuckle.

 

[Draycott old man]

Do knuckle.

I believe a knuckle ball is a return that's that appears to have no Spin Float but actually will have Backspin on it !! Incredible hard to read as it's so slow and puts you out of your rhythm. lot's of my opponents struggle against my Knuckle ball !!!

 

[Peter93]

Do knuckle.

Considering OP is looking for something hard, Do Knuckle or Super Do Knuckle are probably too soft. If OP wants the hardest possible sponge I'd probably do Attack 8 53 deg or any of the Pro or Extreme rubbers from Dr. Neubauer.

 

[androlover]

Aggressor pro

 

[tzifos]

Check also 612 from Giant Dragon at 1.8 or 2.0mm and Curl P3V (not P3aV) from Victas at 1.5mm (55 degrees hardness)

 

[brightcell]

I used the regular version. The 388c-1 I used said japanese sponge on the label but it was too soft for me.

The regular and King versions of the 388 C-1 have quite hard sponges (they are NOT tensors).
How soft do you estimate the AirSponge to be?

 

[Gekko]

If 563 is too soft for you, I reckon everything else will be too.
The Chinese sponges (388c-1 normal version, 563 pro 38 version) are amongst the hardest that exist for med pips.

I'm going to save you the hundreds of dollars and tell you you're on a wild goose chase.

 

[Coombe9]

One of my team mates uses Dr Neubauer killer extreme which feels quite horrible to play against, lots of effect on the ball. he punches with them to great success and i must really lift the ball to return it which is difficult as the ball is coming so quick.

edit: upon more investigation they are actually short pips but play like medium

I have 1.5mm Killer Extreme on the backhand and opponents hate it. I’ve played 21 matches with it. However, after the first couple of sets, opponents start to adjust to it. So I’m still learning and working on mixing things up and consistency. I’d like to be able to generate more power with it . Any advice from anyone who has mastered it?