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Sorry to annoy again with posting here but does anyone know the average weight of the pro m? I'm looking to get a set and I wanna know how it compares to my g1 and fx. Thanks.
 
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Sorry to annoy again with posting here but does anyone know the average weight of the pro m? I'm looking to get a set and I wanna know how it compares to my g1 and fx. Thanks.
I have used the Mantra Pro H for a couple of sessions now and it is really good. Great control on a Waldner Offensive JO Shape. Weight - only indirect but is about 15 g heavier than same racket with Yasaka 7 soft for the pair so around 50ish grams. I'd liked it a little bit lighter weight preferring a not heavy blade. However, for Ms weight see earlier post by OP Zwill here.

The rubber though is for me a faster and as easily played rubber as Rakza 7 soft. Even if Waldner Offensive is a moderate wooden blade this combo is for me quite fast. I haven't played for many years though and am catching up again and for me the combo works great both in short game as well as two m away from the table. I think someone wrote that it is addictive and this I really agree upon.
 
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Mantra Pro
Rakza 7
G-1
Rozena

Could anyone roughly shares the comparison from 1 to 10 based on these four rubbers?
Remember there are three different hardnesses. Mantra Pro H is faster than Rakza 7. The Pro H has better control. I have no experience of M or XH. Mantra Pro H at least as spinny as R7 or Rakza 7 soft. Durability I have no clue have not used the rubber long enough. All I can say it is really fun to play with from short play to intermediate - haven't tried longer distances.
 
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I played with the all these rubbers before except Mantra Pro. I also played Mantra (M) before on both side.

The old Mantra was too fragile & lost its grip faster. I want to know the new Mantra Pro if anyone could tell.

The old Mantra (M) plays like Rozena. I can't tell the different, maybe the Rozena slightly faster.

I agree @Grumms. G-1 definitely faster & has more grip than the old Mantra, Rozena & Rakza 7.

IMO.
 
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Mantra Pro is very durable.

I installed an app on my phone to track how many hours of play i do. So far i have 120h on a set of Mantra Pro and they still grip like new. Almost no wear marks from the ball. Just my fingers.
Which app is this and how does it work?

I just enter my hours played on a rubber into a spreadsheet after every session.
 
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Mantra Pro is very durable.

I installed an app on my phone to track how many hours of play i do. So far i have 120h on a set of Mantra Pro and they still grip like new. Almost no wear marks from the ball. Just my fingers.
Seriously!? No marks? That's crazy. My G09C and Rakza Z topsheets are already showing wear and tear after only 50-60 hours of play. I think it might be because of all the topspin blocking and forehand topspin drills. But I'm happy the tackiness are still there. I guess the rubbers die when the tackiness are gone.
 
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Which app is this and how does it work?

I just enter my hours played on a rubber into a spreadsheet after every session.
Simple time tracker on Android. Activity name is the rubber or whatever you want to track. I start and stop every training session, and with filters you can see your time and total.
 
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Mantra Pro after 120h of play:
 

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G-1 is way faster than Mantra Pro, with less control then. That's all I can state. In term of spin, they're even.
Pro M maybe. But I felt Pro H is definitely faster than G1 at the expense of some spin
 
Actually I have swapped the Mantra Pro XH on my Zhou Qihao S-ALC blade with a H3N OS but have not touched my Mantra Pro M on BH side just for a test a few weeks ago. That test was so good that since I have not even touched another blade. I played a lot against SP, LP and of course normal inverted players and the Mantra Pro M is really easy to use.

Actually it is much easier to use than any rubber that I tried, Glayzer for sure is much harder to use, Tenergy is still harder to use. Mantra Pro M feels really soft, but probably on measurement it is as described @ 47deg.
But the sponge and the topsheet are so supple that I have never felt this. Like Tenergy would be the golden standard for suppleness but I think the Mantra Pros have managed to surpass it.
And it's not just soft and supple but it has good bounce, good topsheet stretch, and the grip is excellent.

In fact the sponge and topsheet support are so good that when playing against SP or LP players I need to focus more on keeping the ball not lifting too up and drifting long. I don't know but for me this "built-in" support is really nice since I can focus on placement and ball arc. I don't remember any rubber where I could "successfully and god forbid consistently" backhand!!! loop high quality balls from the floor, out of placement on to the table and still applying pressure on my opponent... Yes literally from the floor. (actually against SP)

I loved the old Mantra H for BH blocking but I love this one too, it's not particularly spin sensitive and has great speed and it eats the ball very well too, so one can kind of do adjustments during block while the rubber holds the ball. But because the sponge is so compressible it can hit down on the wood fairly easily on flat blocks, then it becomes super spin insensitive and fast. Very good rubber for just "elementary" school flat, press down block.
Kind of how like Truls does it. I know he doesn't use this rubber but it is super great for that hit and guys, it's effective.

Also I'm a lefty, and when I play against most SP players (who use SP on BH) I sometimes engage in straight BH BH flat hit rally. Normally most rubbers I have to pay attention to lift a bit or I will hit in the net since SP makes the ball just go down from my rubber. But with Mantra Pro M I don't need to worry about this and I welcome BH-BH flat exchanges. Welcoming is maybe a bit of a stretch since I'm still a bit wary of this but mostly because I have bad experience from other rubbers. I can imagine if I use it for even more I will just get great confidence and seek such exchanges.

Actively countering open up loops is also quite fun since there is the flat and push block Truls style, so that is like a swiss knife tool in the pocket always. In doubt do it!
But it's also possible to counterspin heavy open ups. It's not even difficult, just need to swing with confidence (or recklessly with closed eyes) and the rubber takes care.
For sure it doesn't have that feel when I get it right with Glayzer, since Glayzer will make it feel like I hit the best shot of the decade but Mantra Pro M will put a lot more balls on the table and possibly with greater speed, only that I don't have that epic feeling of greatness. But a point is a point so if I get more with Mantra Pro M I will take that.

Open up and chiquitas are very good too, since it has great girp and a superb sponge. I don't remember a sponge made by any other company so good. The XH sponge is also fantastic. It is durable as hell, after 2 months of use the sponge is the very same as new. Several of my teammates have killed Tenergies faster than that and I have much more power than them.

And that leades me into durability. After 2 months and possibly 100 hours of actual play the sheet has only marks where I touched it with my finger regularly (serve). Superb durablility of the topsheet and the sponge has no boosting tricks and still maintain the same characteristic as new. Clicky, speedy, supple everything is the same.
So @igorponger is pretty correct to hype the OCS sponge from Japan. The latest one is probalby the best I have encountered.

Heck I wish Daiki will make a sticky, friction rubber like D09c with their sponge. That would be so awesome.
Does this play anything like a hybrid? Also, stiga states that this is much slower and less spinny than dna platinum. Is this the case?
 
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Does this play anything like a hybrid? Also, stiga states that this is much slower and less spinny than dna platinum. Is this the case?
Here come some thoughts from a person back to TT after many years. Not an expert opinion. I have tested both Mantra Pro H and DNA Hybrid H. The DNA hybrid H is faster just as stated on STIGAs webpage however the Mantra Pro H is also a fast rubber - quite faster than Rakza 7 and closer to DNA Hybrid H. At STIGAs website below the rubbers there is a comparison between all rubbers. For me coming back to TT after many years the Mantra is a great rubber where you can both spin slow balls as well as fast and fair my level more than enough of spin. It is like a much faster Rakza 7 soft with power. It is though heavier. The DNA Hybrid can also produce very good spin. I have for my level need to work harder to spin slow balls. The near field play with both rubbers is excellent. The hybrid must really be cleaned between every session since it sucks dust into the rubber. I cannot quite compare the two directly since I have a harder blade together with the Hybrid which may explain the speed difference. @Zwill review is very good and spot on. However, in conclusion quite different animals with the Hybrid M having a lower trajectory than the Mantra Pro. According to Stiga the DNA Hybrid M is more comparable to Mantra Pro H in terms of speed.
 
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