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Their agents need to be creative: Lee Chong Wei the former World No. 1 in Badminton once became the brand ambassador for locks! Yes locks and key type of locks.
Michael Jordan made probably less than 1% of his wealth from playing basketball
or is it 0.1% maybe even 0.01%
 
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Tennis is actually not doing as great as many make it out to be. And WTT is looking to copy ATP and WTA, both of which have been considering a merger, which will probably be finalized in 2025?

FINANCIAL REALITY OF PRO TENNIS A 'FAILURE OF OUR SPORT'
https://www.thefirstserve.com.au/post/financial-reality-of-pro-tennis-a-failure-of-our-sport
The REAL Money Problem in Tennis
https://www.theslicetennis.com/articles/what-is-the-real-money-problem-in-tennis
"SOMETHING WORTH FIGHTING FOR"
https://www.sportsnet.ca/tennis/longform/fight-death-inside-struggle-survive-pro-tennis/

The WTA is in “big financial trouble” and “could go bankrupt in 2026 or 2027” | Update: WTA denies that they are in a financial crisis, see post #121
https://www.tennisforum.com/threads...al-crisis-see-post-121.1409105/page-7#replies
 
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yeh. 30 in world in ATP plays 30 events in a year for 1.5m and all of that is paid for themself to attend so I dont think the difference between the sports in the mid level is as large as some think when ping pong players can play league too because its not 30 events a year. still more but not as much in end in that 20-60 ranked range. TV time for those Top 30 players in tt is probably larger too.
 
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I seriously hope the pros have other sources of income beside WTT money, cuz it's just beyond sad if you're in top 30-100 of your field worldwide and not making $100k.
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I suppose they have money from sponsorships and possibly international fees for country team events. Salary from club matches too.

I know the Olympics (the most enormous scam on the planet) with billions in revenue and none going to the athletes doesn't help one bit and should be boycotted by every athlete next time around!!
 
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How fitting that Dorslikesmath gets in with the first response 😉
I suppose they have money from sponsorships and possibly international fees for country team events. Salary from club matches too.

I know the Olympics (the most enormous scam on the planet) with billions in revenue and none going to the athletes doesn't help one bit and should be boycotted by every athlete next time around!!
lets talk LYJ
He has a big gov budget for expense (staff hire, travel, accommodation, equipment, etc)
He has a salary from Taiwan co-op bank (including pension and everything a normal employment contract includes)
He has sponsorships from Butterfly (which includes money), as well as the other logos on his shirt.
He has a very lucrative salary from his Japanese club (T League) - this is no different than players in the French and German leagues.

In all fairness, his money he made from WTT is just cherry on top of the cake. This doesn't include additional money/gifts he makes from the City, the national gov from Taiwan when he achieve certain milestones (ie Bronze OG medal).

Okay, he is top 10, so maybe not fair.
But I also have an idea of what Kao makes, and it isn't bad too. Especially him now being called Mr Pomelo (the fruit)
 
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Gauzy revealed that he was barely above even money from WTT last year when subtracting expenses and that he would've been in the minus without qualifying for Champions events. The majority of even top 100 players are net payers to play on the tour. You need it for world rank and publicitiy to secure sponsorships and sign for clubs to make a living.
 
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Gauzy revealed that he was barely above even money from WTT last year when subtracting expenses and that he would've been in the minus without qualifying for Champions events. The majority of even top 100 players are net payers to play on the tour. You need it for world rank and publicitiy to secure sponsorships and sign for clubs to make a living.
Bollwerk makes a very valid point. The majority of the top 200 table tennis players are dedicated professionals and their sole source of income is from table tennis. And most of them actually LOSE money playing in WTT events once you consider the direct expenses of participating in these events. These expenses include travel, accommodations, etc. ( I am not even counting the cost of bringing a coach, etc). Some of the top players get these expenses paid for by their sponsors, national associations etc. Most players don't. At the very top level of events, the players get their hotel expenses paid for by the event organizers. But, I believe that at most events. (Star Contender, Contender and Feeder events), the players pay for these expenses and almost always lose money.

Here is a theoretical example. A player ranked at about number 80-100 in the world decided to play in the Almaty Contender event and did quite well and made it to the quarter finals in a singles event. Prize money is $1050 USD. Five nights in the hotel and meals (even if it's just at $120 per night) and flights at about $1000 means that at this "success" of a tournament cost him/her over $500. And this is a pretty good case scenario for this player. At the Feeder level, it's even uglier !!

It is "interesting" that WTT chose to only include in their article the top 35 earners. It would be much more interesting to get that data on all of the participants (or at least the top 200 earners). I am sure that the picture would not be pretty. So much for transparency.

It's a real shame and a pity, since table tennis is a wonderful sport. Just not financially, except for a very few.

It reminds me of an old joke: How do most players make a small fortune playing WTT events? Answer: Start with a large fortune !!

A side question: Do the Chinese players get to keep the prize money for themselves or does a portion or all of it go to the Chinese association?
 
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CNT players have to split the prize money with CTTA. Their costs are entirely covered.
 
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You guys got it all wrong. All of you upside-down.
1. WTT is a place for players to do social service. A place to give back to the TT society.
2. Players are expected to earn their bread and butter coaching and engage fan in ONLY FAN Social Media.
3. Endorsement deals with corporate bodies.
 
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Not sure this is the best thread to post the below, but I just saw an article that talks about the expenses involved in participating in WTT tournaments.

Why do Japanese players pay for the WTT at their own expense? 600,000 yen travel expenses per tournament and the stage for "self-proof"​



 
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Not sure this is the best thread to post the below, but I just saw an article that talks about the expenses involved in participating in WTT tournaments.

Why do Japanese players pay for the WTT at their own expense? 600,000 yen travel expenses per tournament and the stage for "self-proof"​



Japan is still very good compared to most of the world.

I think we need to elaborate on Japanese players - since JTTA allows anyone to enter WTT - including those not in JNT.

So, all these new ones - not in the JNT, but like those doing well in feeders - they all self fund, that is for sure.
But then it isn't 100% self fund. The club/team would also contribute to they travel.
Some players will also have additional funding from various sponsors to travel.

You need to look at top ranked European players - many of them self fund. Japanese players still has a lot of parties that fund/co-fund them and the main players are all part JTTA/JOC funding.
There is actually so much funding that the players can hire a group of support staff per player (they don't share it)

so you have main players and you have lone wolfs, but they are different groups of players, hence different funding.

So, end of the day, club table tennis is keeping many careers afloat.
 
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