Sabine Winter switches to antispin

[DrBean]

I still cannot wrap my head around this concept that Wang Yidi who is not a noob in the Pro Tours is unable to adapt to difference in spin or control the spin. It still cannot explain the disparity in the outcome btw WYD vs Odo against Sabine.

You actually see this quite often in high level athletes. You get used to a rhythm and it's very uncomfortable when someone presents a different pattern. Adaptability is a rarer skill than, say, explosiveness.

There's a recent video covering a few adjacent concepts in sports performance.

 

[NextLevel]

I still cannot wrap my head around this concept that Wang Yidi who is not a noob in the Pro Tours is unable to adapt to difference in spin or control the spin. It still cannot explain the disparity in the outcome btw WYD vs Odo against Sabine.

Because you are focused on the level of the player, not the nature of the problem. Many players in table tennis retain the same kinds of strengths and weaknesses at every level they have played, they just get good enough that it takes a stronger level of player to expose them. Think of Sun Yingsha, who is currently the best player in the world, having her backhand issues exploited by Chen Meng ans Wang Manyu. Obviously, Sun Yingsha's backhand is awesome, and it takes a certain level of player with threats in other parts of their game to exploit it, including someone eho can return her serve without losing the point on the third ball (which usually means it has to be a teammate, but not necessarily). But if you can get her backhand to backhand and place the ball awkwardly enough that she isn't able to pivot because you can place the ball down the line, you are in the match.

I uave seen usatt 2300 players lose to usatt 2000 pips players and I have seen a guy whonhad good serves and long pips on backhand also gain rating points after making the same kind of switch Winter made. Sometimes it is less about the material and more about the problem it poses for players who don't know how to overwhelm you when you use it and therefore give you time to use your forehand. But a lot ot it also depends on how early you were exposed to these rubbers in your development. I have seen players beat choppers or pips backhand players 300 pts higher rated than them for the same matchup reason in reverse, so Winter is always susceptible to someone who knows how to handle the anti and who can counter her forehand.

 

[Airoc]

Sometimes it is less about the material and more about the problem it poses for players

This is especially true for lower levels.
People admit to their weaknesses and use pips/anti, and all of a sudden they have an advantage over people who have their weakness playing against pips/anti.
The higher the level, the more you actually have to have an idea of how to play with the pips/anti other than just somehow fumbling it in to the opponent´s ball, and you´ll need a weapon on the other side of the racket as well.

 

[NextLevel]

Sabine Winter 3-2 Doo Hoi Kem (-10,-8, 8, 9, 4).

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Sabine Winter 3-2 Doo Hoi Kem (-10,-8, 8, 9, 4).

No surprise normal performance for WR9

 

[NextLevel]

No surprise normal performance for WR9

Zeio is from Hong Kong, so I needed to update the thread.

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

Sabine gets a medal at world champs, but a team one, it was too easy to predict.

 

[Bollwerk]

Sabine gets a medal at world champs, but a team one, it was too easy to predict.

In team it's her 3rd, first time leading the way.

It was likely, but nice to make it through the harder quarter too

 

[zeio]

HY and Lei Yang on Winter saying how she got fewer points after her switch to anti, wondering how SYS could adjust so fast without any problem.

HY also thinks Winter's FH is better than Hayata's and that JNT players are just too good at playing combination players.

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26-5-12 18:23
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韩莹: 温特输给莎莎之后，她说怎么能上来就调动的这么快，也没有觉得不适应。换个胶皮后与莎莎打，得分还少了！
有一年新加坡大满贯，她抽的是孙颖莎，我抽的是伊藤，她说要不咱俩回去吧哈哈
她说要不然这样的:咱俩比一比，看谁分儿多能赢的分儿多，后来这次打完以后，她就跟队友说，以前没换完胶皮的时候还能多赢几分，结果还完胶皮以后分更少了哈哈

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丁丁足乒历险记
乒乓球超话
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26-5-13 17:00
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[#乒乓球[超话]#] 乒乓球超话#微博二创视频创作季#
韩莹：我觉得温特的正手能力高于早田希娜，我觉得温特正手现在比我还稳，本来想让我去打张本美和的

韩莹：我觉得温特的正手比早田希娜更出色，温特正手扎实不随意抹球，稳健度甚至比我削球打法还要高。
明明是进攻打法，稳定性却远超防守型，确实打得很亮眼。日韩队内特殊打法选手本来就多，遇上很难应对。
雷洋：本来想让韩莹去拼张美和，可惜没能如愿。大家都觉得张美和不好打，也就我相对能对上几句，只能算是矬子里拔将军。 [http://t.cn/AXifkgoO] 丁丁足乒历险记的微博视频

 

[zeio]

SXN on her role and other teammates down the road, saying she won't compete for LA28 and will not play WTT events after 2028.

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26-5-22 22:17
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单晓娜:世乒赛我应该不会再参加了，代表国家队的比赛应该不会再参加了。奥运会我肯定是打不了了，没有那个精气神，也没有那个能力，也没有去竞争了，因这个打法在这儿放着，但是坚持打到28年，我觉得还是会的。参加一些WTT的比赛好，还是会的，28年之后有可能就不会参加这些比赛了。
下次比赛德国锦标赛我们要打，然后就是克罗地亚的挑战赛，后面斯洛文尼亚我准备取消了，美国大满贯会去的。 [http://t.cn/AX6bsm3s] 精神病院派来的猴子的微博视频

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26-5-22 23:37
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单晓娜:尼娜今年已经三十了，尼娜上个星期结婚的，办的婚礼。邱党没结婚，今年女队是尼娜结婚，万远是九月份，我们都会去。杜达应该也快了，杜达儿子都有了，婚礼早晚要补办一下。温特还没有男朋友呢，她真的所有的精力，所有的一切都是乒乓球，所有她能有今天真的是她应得的，温特就是搞事业。现在德国队的队长还是尼娜和奥恰。 [http://t.cn/AX6G5oJb] 精神病院派来的猴子的微博视频