SP Carbon

[Egon]

And to make this clear to all people who are not experts, it would be good to compare photos of the disassembled blade with photos of veneers from different batches of limba and ayus wood.

 

[zeio]

Only the Western sources get it wrong, from noting kiri as balsa to ayous as limba.

Here is the "Viscaria Challenge" event, the 3rd of a 4-part Overseas Brand Challenge series by Yinhe in 2012.

◆◆◆【挑战洋品牌】“挑战VIS”开始啦（已截止）！◆◆◆ (◆◆◆【Foreign Brands Challenge】“VIS Challenge” has begun (and closed)! ◆◆◆)
https://web.archive.org/web/2026072...wthread&action=printable&tid=426496&mobile=no

VIS：koto+蓝芳碳+ayous+桐大芯+ayous+蓝芳碳+koto

(VIS[caria]: koto+blue aromatic carbon+ayous+kiri big core+ayous+blue aromatic carbon+koto)

【公告】崇洋者注意：挑战洋品牌，您参加了吗？ ([Announcement] Attention, those who idolize foreign brands: Have you participated in the foreign brands challenge?)
https://web.archive.org/web/2026072...wthread&action=printable&tid=427629&mobile=no

 

[Egon]

@zeio do you know what the difference is between the Western world and the world you write from?
In that here you can criticize and you won't get anything for it. And try criticizing something in your own country. I don't think it will go without consequences for you.
And criticism, especially healthy, leads to fixing bugs in the system. So the Western system has the opportunity for self-purification. It is more solid and monolithic. And a system where dissent is punished is not viable. The fate of the USSR is an example of this

 

[biaxialerzug]

This is like one of those debating and arguing lessons where each get an standpoint and has to argue for it even if it’s the wrong one. Then, at some point, one finally has no more arguments and start with whataboutism to deflect from the discussion.
This topic has nothing to do with western or eastern politics or anything else. It’s a fact based discussion and you are wrong.
Such a pathetic move to switch to politics…

 

[Egon]

Only the Western sources get it wrong, from noting kiri as balsa to ayous as limba.

Here is the "Viscaria Challenge" event, the 3rd of a 4-part Overseas Brand Challenge series by Yinhe in 2012.

◆◆◆【挑战洋品牌】“挑战VIS”开始啦（已截止）！◆◆◆ (◆◆◆【Foreign Brands Challenge】“VIS Challenge” has begun (and closed)! ◆◆◆)
https://web.archive.org/web/2026072...wthread&action=printable&tid=426496&mobile=no

(VIS[caria]: koto+blue aromatic carbon+ayous+kiri big core+ayous+blue aromatic carbon+koto)

【公告】崇洋者注意：挑战洋品牌，您参加了吗？ ([Announcement] Attention, those who idolize foreign brands: Have you participated in the foreign brands challenge?)
https://web.archive.org/web/2026072...wthread&action=printable&tid=427629&mobile=no

This, my friends, is a classic example of communist propaganda. It's similar to publications in the paper newspaper "Pravda" from the Soviet era.

 

[Egon]

This is like one of those debating and arguing lessons where each get an standpoint and has to argue for it even if it’s the wrong one. Then, at some point, one finally has no more arguments and start with whataboutism to deflect from the discussion.
This topic has nothing to do with western or eastern politics or anything else. It’s a fact based discussion and you are wrong.
Such a pathetic move to switch to politics…

A little bit wrong, or rather not at all.
Sergio defended his point of view but left because he didn't want to waste his time. And I answered all your questions.

 

[tokatci]

I don't need to win. Personally, for me this story will end when I have the original blade disassembled or information from the manufacturer or maybe from Timo Boll. I think he should know about it..
It is your right to believe in one thing or another. And that is normal. It is my right not to believe in either one or the other until I see it myself or until official information from the manufacturer appears. I do not see anything strange in this position.

Just shut up please…

 

[Egon]

Just shut up please…

What, Vanya, makes you so angry and upset?

 

[tokatci]

You drag on pointless arguments just for the sake of it and make this forum a miserable place

You clearly have way too much time and energy to waste on this nonsense. I suggest you find a more meaningful occupation instead of spammimg here

 

[NDH]

At the risk of sounding like a school teacher - Please move on. Everyone.

Either back to the topic of SP Carbon, or simply onto another thread.

There is much more to life.

Thanks.

 

[Faker]

At the risk of sounding like a school teacher - Please move on. Everyone.

Either back to the topic of SP Carbon, or simply onto another thread.

There is much more to life.

Thanks.

Thanks NDH, ı believe if they will continue to talk about TB ALC, ı believe piligrim must close this thread to more posts.

Cheers
F-kr

 

[Egon]

Thanks NDH, ı believe if they will continue to talk about TB ALC, ı believe piligrim must close this thread to more posts.

Cheers
F-kr

Turn off notifications and don't read this topic.

 

[Faker]

Turn off notifications and don't read this topic.

This is an SP Carbon thread, not a TB ALC thread. Around 88 of the 91 posts are off-topic.This is against forum rules. Please start a new thread instead of derailing this one.

Cheers
F-kr

 

[Egon]

You drag on pointless arguments just for the sake of it and make this forum a miserable place

You clearly have way too much time and energy to waste on this nonsense. I suggest you find a more meaningful occupation instead of spammimg here

Stirlitz has never been so close to failure! you, Vanya, have 8 messages and all of them are in defense of russian athletes, or full of hatred for me and my country and not a single constructive or useful message for this world.
I would like to appeal to the moderators to leave everything as it is, so that people would see who we are dealing with.

PS. Stirlitz is a character in the film "17 Moments of Spring", who was a secret agent of the USSR, who was an officer in the German headquarters during World War II. The film is of course complete crap, I do not recommend it for viewing, but the characters are colorful and we have a lot of "catchphrases" from it.

 

[Egon]

This is an SP Carbon thread, not a TB ALC thread. Around 88 of the 91 posts are off-topic.This is against forum rules. Please start a new thread instead of derailing this one.

Cheers
F-kr

Here I completely agree with you.
I asked the moderators to create a new topic here on the forum and through personal messages and through reports, but the decision was negative.

 

[NDH]

I'm only going to say this once more.

I, and other moderators are not here to babysit - We are all adults, and we should all act accordingly.

This is an SP Carbon thread.

One of the repeat offenders is on a "time out" until tomorrow - Please let that be the end of it.

Back to SP Carbon, please.

 

[golden_son]

This entire thread:

 

[CallMeZaddy]

Wrong picture. It should be TB ALC in the meme.

 

[CallMeZaddy]

Also the blade was just made available for preorder.

From Seth’s private video on YouTube, the manufacturer is Loki.

 

[SDC]

Oh, and I didn't pay attention until now, but judging by the unclear sideways picture of the handle, I'm willing to bet the medial on the SP is also Ayous, which would make it exactly the same as the TB ALC and Vis in terms of structure 🤣. I know the text says limba, but I don't trust it given that some of the other stuff seems to be copied too. Of course I may be wrong here, as the picture is not clear, and I'm totally open to admit my mistake if that's the case. However... I does seem to have a thicker core, which would make it slightly different than the mentioned blades, and consistent with the description.

(I stayed on topic, please don't ban me 😇)