Switching from Hurricane to Dignics

[MaLongHagever]

I've been playing with hurricane 3 bs prov on forehand and hurricane 3 prov orange sponge for about 2 years. My technique has improved drastically thanks to the hurricane but I'm pretty much tired of having to boost them and would like something more "plug and play".
Also because they demand more power from the user I feel like if I could generate almost the same spin and get more power from a rubber like Dignics 05 that'd be better.
Is it bad to go from hurricanes to dignics 05 for example?

 

[joshmak10]

It’s probably better to go to Dignics 09C. You’ll have the similar Hurricane feeling with out the need to boost and it’s faster than hurricane with only slightly less spin. Dignics 05 is a good rubber but might take a long time to get used to

 

[blahness]

I've been playing with hurricane 3 bs prov on forehand and hurricane 3 prov orange sponge for about 2 years. My technique has improved drastically thanks to the hurricane but I'm pretty much tired of having to boost them and would like something more "plug and play".
Also because they demand more power from the user I feel like if I could generate almost the same spin and get more power from a rubber like Dignics 05 that'd be better.
Is it bad to go from hurricanes to dignics 05 for example?

If you play with good technique you can use anything really. 09c is probably easier to transition from hurricane, but 05 is possible too.

Beware of the effect on the serve and receive game though, this is where I think the biggest differences lie.

 

[doppelmoral]

I had this thought process many times before. whenever I use someone‘s racket with dignics or similar rubber, I get absolutely effortless topspins with same or even higher quality than hurricane. thats because I am not good enough to maximize h3 potential. its the advantage of using hurricane for a long time: every other rubber is suddenly super easy to play it its feels free to activate them

when it comes to matchplay though, those ESN/jap rubbers might let you down in serve receive. h3 is slow and easy to control in serve receive, and you are used to it after 2 years of using this rubber. most points are decided through serve receive, so its alot of work to relearn that part of the game with other rubbers. I‘d stick to hurricane, but if you must switch, go for dignics 09c.

 

[SFF_lib]

I've been playing with hurricane 3 bs prov on forehand and hurricane 3 prov orange sponge for about 2 years. My technique has improved drastically thanks to the hurricane but I'm pretty much tired of having to boost them and would like something more "plug and play".
Also because they demand more power from the user I feel like if I could generate almost the same spin and get more power from a rubber like Dignics 05 that'd be better.
Is it bad to go from hurricanes to dignics 05 for example?

Agree with above. I've played almost all H3 variants and T05, T05H D64, D05 and D09C. Personally I find D09C lacking power on FH when you play mid distance top spin rally. My background is H3 41 degree on FH. Hence I find D09C too soft on FH. It's perfect for BH.

Many don't know T05H is a great FH rubber. T05H is less bouncy than D05 in short game, equal to D09C. When you do FH drive T05H goes faster than D09C with similar spin. D09C and T05H share a similar sponge hardness.

 

[guni4you]

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Agree with above. I've played almost all H3 variants and T05, T05H D64, D05 and D09C. Personally I find D09C lacking power on FH when you play mid distance top spin rally. My background is H3 41 degree on FH. Hence I find D09C too soft on FH. It's perfect for BH.

Many don't know T05H is a great FH rubber. T05H is less bouncy than D05 in short game, equal to D09C. When you do FH drive T05H goes faster than D09C with similar spin. D09C and T05H share a similar sponge hardness.

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how would you compare t05h to h3 and d09c?

 

[SFF_lib]

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how would you compare t05h to h3 and d09c?

I already compared D09C and T05H in the previous post. Both are excellent in short game is because Spring sponge (T05H) is less bouncy than Spring sponge X (D09C). But because the hardness is similar, when hit through T05H achieves higher speed (non tacky).

Nothing beats H3 in serve, short game and max spin.

Summary (assume H3 is 40 degree and boosted properly)
Serve and short game: H3 > T05H = D09C
Close to table speed: T05H>D09C > H3
Block: D09D = H3 > T05H
Lifting back spin: very similar but probably T05H is slightly inferior as it's the only non-tacky rubber
Top spin drive: T05H > D09C > H3 (T05H slightly easier than D09C)
Top speed: T05H > D09C > H3
Top spin: H3 > T05H = D09C

 

[Hurricane AON]

Don't rely on the numbers listed in the specifications. I'm another player who has always used Chinese rubber on my forehand since I started.

Sometimes I've considered switching to a hybrid rubber due to the inconsistency and rapid degradation of Chinese rubbers. However, hybrid rubbers simply can't replicate the unique feel and performance of Chinese rubbers.

But then, I discovered Xuperman PowerplayX 41-degree, and it has solved all these issues! It's more stable even when it degrades, easier to play than other Chinese rubbers, and it doesn't require the use of boosters

 

[ML fan]

Hello, I am using DHS Hurricane 3 BS on 42 FH, and DHS H3 OS 37 BH, for almost 3 years already.
I love this set up, especially, it is the set up of my idols Chinese Players until I knew friends using DHS before and switch to D09c, and their game is in a different level now (just after the switch) I can always beat them before, but now, it's difficult.

I started to doubt my rubbers.haha. and I am thinking that if I switch, I could be efficient too.
My thinking and realization is this, "I am just a club player, maybe intermediate, why force myself to use these dhs for pros? I am not training with a chinese system and like a chinese pros too. Maybe, D09c could be more forgiving if they dont have perfect form and technique. Maybe, there are rubbers that could be efficient and effective just for me and my level as a club intermediate player that could help my games better."

I am using 5 ply allwood blade, i tried 40 blades already and I think settled on a 5 ply. What can you say?

 

[MaLongHagever]

Hello, I am using DHS Hurricane 3 BS on 42 FH, and DHS H3 OS 37 BH, for almost 3 years already.
I love this set up, especially, it is the set up of my idols Chinese Players until I knew friends using DHS before and switch to D09c, and their game is in a different level now (just after the switch) I can always beat them before, but now, it's difficult.

I started to doubt my rubbers.haha. and I am thinking that if I switch, I could be efficient too.
My thinking and realization is this, "I am just a club player, maybe intermediate, why force myself to use these dhs for pros? I am not training with a chinese system and like a chinese pros too. Maybe, D09c could be more forgiving if they dont have perfect form and technique. Maybe, there are rubbers that could be efficient and effective just for me and my level as a club intermediate player that could help my games better."

I am using 5 ply allwood blade, i tried 40 blades already and I think settled on a 5 ply. What can you say?

From someone who went from Hurricane to Dignics 09C and now K3 I can say nothing feels like H3. I prefer K3 over 09C, because it feels much more similar to a boosted hurricane but again - not exactly the same.

 

[ML fan]

From someone who went from Hurricane to Dignics 09C and now K3 I can say nothing feels like H3. I prefer K3 over 09C, because it feels much more similar to a boosted hurricane but again - not exactly the same.

But based on reviews, dignics last longer than k3. I believe so that nothing can beat dhs hurricane 3 IF you can just execute perfect stroke everytime!

 

[ML fan]

From someone who went from Hurricane to Dignics 09C and now K3 I can say nothing feels like H3. I prefer K3 over 09C, because it feels much more similar to a boosted hurricane but again - not exactly the same.

Did you switch back to hurricane 3?

 

[MaLongHagever]

Did you switch back to hurricane 3?

to answer your first question i found 09c's durability disappointing. And yes I do plan on switching back to hurricane 3 soon

 

[MOJOJOJO-74]

to answer your first question i found 09c's durability disappointing. And yes I do plan on switching back to hurricane 3 soon

If you want something that's not as demanding as Hurricane and has a lower throw angle than 09c, I would say maybe considering trying out Zyre-03 (if you can find it for very cheap, PROTT.vip has it for 92 USD)? Being someone that mainly plays with Chinese rubbers, I really enjoyed how Zyre-03 played, and the speed wasn't an issue for me (was actually cool seeing the speed difference with Zyre-03 compared to Hurricane 3). The only thing I had an issue with was the ball would sometimes just die off when using it, and I don't believe I've had that experience really with Hurricane or Skyline. Here's an in-depth review if you want more info from someone who is a Hurricane 3 user:

Butterfly Zyre-03 – The Successor to Tenergy 05 and Dignics 09C? - Megaspin

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[ML fan]

to answer your first question i found 09c's durability disappointing. And yes I do plan on switching back to hurricane 3 soon

haha.. same! I am back with dhs h3 BS, after 1 day of D09c. A lot of my strength was taken, super spinny serves, pushes and loops, crisp into the wood of dhs h3.
The only thing I gained is easiness of use and forgiving without much effort.
However, I think I gor lazy because of easiness of use of the d09c.

D09c, what I gain is the forgiveness that the rubber keeps the ball on the table, however opponents keep on returning my balls too.
What I dont like compared to h3 is that, it is difficult for slow spin, always on speed. Not much gears, and springy, cant be felt to the wood maybe because of spring, not crisp.