Thread about Japanese Players

[Catenaccio]

Mostly because fans project positive on Hashimoto when her opponent hasn't played her, in reality, the CNT is bringing the threat bsck into focus and as Wang Yidi showed their results are alread improving. Hashimoto is a much stronger defender than Suh Hyo Won in 2025 but as a first step, I am just establishing that Kuai is competent vs defense. The rest we can wait for the match.

Hashimoto has a positive H2H against KM (2-0). The last match was in 2022, but this information is better than no information at all.

 

[NextLevel]

Hashimoto has a positive H2H against KM (2-0). The last match was in 2022, but this information is better than no information at all.

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Kuai would have been 18 then. I suspect Ojio Haruna also had a positive record against Kuai Man around that time and a lot gets invested into CNT players when they make the first team and are in the 19-21 age range or are consistently first team players. But by all means, it does say Hashimoto has beaten Kuai before and Kuai has never beaten Hashimoto before.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I felt like Japan could've had a better chance to put Honoka at the 3 spot because one of KM/CXT/WYD are much more unstable against her than the top 2 Chinese (would've been super interesting to see KM vs Honoka).

I think they wanted Hayata to take 1 point at 3.
and hopefully 1 point from the 1st two, so giving them a 2-1 lead after the 3rd.

teams event is always a lot more pressure, so while Honoka is on form, anything can happen. Sadly, it didn't happen for her.

PS. there wouldn't know if KM would play 3 either. so can only plan based on JNT's lineup strategy

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I agree with you. Hashimoto hasn't won against SYS and WMY so far plus she has a positive H2H against KM (2-0), CXT (2-0), and WYD (3-1). However, it would not have made a difference in terms of end result.

EDIT: At least the coach gave Hashimoto a chance to play in the SF and the F and I hope he will continue to do so.

if there was a doubles in the match up (like olympics) it would be extremely unfavorable to her.
Glad she got some singles match time in teams.

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

Hina has been given a WTT Nomination to WTT Champions Montpellier

 

[zeio]

What's the merit for Hayata? For being a con artist at WTT CS Yokohama 2025 and stepping over the dead body of her kouhai to cling on to her 5th place in the team? Nagasaki has worked so hard to make the national team, you know?

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

Japanese entries for 2025 WTT Star Contender Muscat Nov 17-22.

Men's Singles
Main Draw

Yukiya Uda​

Hiroto Shinozuka​

Yuta Tanaka​

Kazuki Hamada​

Qualification Draw

Yuhi Sakai​

Kazuhiro Yoshimura​

Satoshi Aida​

Women's Singles

Satsuki Odo​

Hina Hayata​

Miyu Nagasaki​

Miyuu Kihara​

Sakura Yokoi​

Miu Hirano​

Hitomi Sato​

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

All Japan is announced (singles/doubles) 29 Jan~1 Feb

Emperor/empress cup 20~25 Jan

 

[NextLevel]

What's the merit for Hayata? For being a con artist at WTT CS Yokohama 2025 and stepping over the dead body of her kouhai to cling on to her 5th place in the team? Nagasaki has worked so hard to make the national team, you know?

You mean there is no prestige to having an Olympic medalist at your event over an aspiring player? You mean you really believe Nagasaki is better than Hayata? Hayata was probably simply the best player not already on the draw...

 

[zeio]

You mean there is no prestige to having an Olympic medalist at your event over an aspiring player? You mean you really believe Nagasaki is better than Hayata? Hayata was probably simply the best player not already on the draw...

It's not something to be proud of when she sacrificed her hand and her career along with it, which I'd already pointed out at that time, unlike ball feeder who failed big time with the "prognosis". That's what ultimately led to the MTO at WTT CS Yokohama 2025. Folks in mainland China joke about her injury and speech and folks in Japan still won't let her off the hook after what she did to Harimoto, grasping at straws.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...ll-play-for-another-4-years.35128/post-529511

Ishida also revealed that they [Team Hayata] were 100% focused on the XD in the last 3 months leading up to Paris 2024 and how Hayata forwent WS and how ending up with 1st round exit hurt the player the most and that's why they pretty much never talked about the XD.

 

[NextLevel]

It's not something to be proud of when she sacrificed her hand and her career along with it, which I'd already pointed out at that time, unlike ball feeder who failed big time with the "prognosis". That's what ultimately led to the MTO at WTT CS Yokohama 2025. Folks in mainland China joke about her injury and speech and folks in Japan still won't let her off the hook after what she did to Harimoto, grasping at straws.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...ll-play-for-another-4-years.35128/post-529511

Oh well, I guess you have your own bronze medal for taking care of your hand.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Oh well, I guess you have yourbon bronze medal for taking care of your hand.

he will never understand sports, he was never a pro player, or knows anyone that lives the live of sports.
Hayata if she had withdrew injured, will then be label a quiter by zeio here.
zeio simply has agendas and no matter what Hayata would do, he would continue to abuse her, zeio is an abuser, nothing strange about it, since that is all he can do.

and since he is labeling ball feeder, that means I am very famous too, since only famous people that has threats against chinese get abused by him, not so @Dan?

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

Top 2 Women's T-League teams met today. It was overnight for me so wasn't able to watch it live, but a couple of interesting developments. Powerhouse Abyell won the team match 3-1. The one win for the Red Elves was Rin Mende beating Miyu Nagasaki 3-2,11-7. The other development was that although Miwa won her match as expected over Kaho Akae, it was a very close win 3-2,12-10.

 

[Catenaccio]

All Japan is announced (singles/doubles) 29 Jan~1 Feb

Emperor/empress cup 20~25 Jan

Emperor's/Empress' Cup is All Japan singles (20-25 Jan)

All Japan doubles will be held separately from from 29 Jan to 1 Feb

 

[zeio]

Oh well, I guess you have your own bronze medal for taking care of your hand.

Coming from the one who denied the qualification of Mizutani to comment on Hayata based on the simple fact that he had no WTTC bronze medal. I guess you had a WTTC medal?

So please, stop wasting my time with more of this crap. Boll has no Olympic MS medal and yet how many people regard him as lower than Ovtcharov?

More folks from Japan (here for one) and mainland China are now saying the price Hayata paid was not worth it. Her action at WTT CS Yokohama 2025 was not typical of an Olympic medalist and has tarnished whatever little honor she got from Paris 2024.

日本在赌什么 (What was JPN betting on?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10128253591
我是超级良民 是赌日女这三个能带走国乒，还是赌桥本能过莎，或者赌美和能过🐟
IP属地:湖北来自Android客户端1楼2025-10-15 17:29回复
(Is it betting that these three JPN women can take the CNT with them, or betting that Hashimoto can get past Sha, or betting that Miwa can get past 🐟)

王楚钦（拧拉之神版） 最多也只能这样了，这就是日本最好的排阵。
日本队想取胜只能3：0，只要拖到第四盘就是死
IP属地:北京来自Android客户端2楼2025-10-15 17:32
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(That's the best they can do. This is JPN's best lineup.
JPN can only win 3-0. If it drags on to the fourth match, they're doomed)

官配无爱 🇯🇵不是最优解了吗？我们想上鳗鱼抓小盒，结果🇯🇵派桥本耗鳗鱼。因为蒯曼基本稳上洛奥，再薅美同也没意义，想上蒯曼抓大藤，结果🇯🇵上了早田抓蒯曼
IP属地:上海来自Android客户端4楼2025-10-15 17:34收起回复
(Isn't it the optimal solution for 🇯🇵? We wanted to use Eel [WMY] to catch Little Carton, but 🇯🇵 sent Hashimoto to grind Eel. Because KM is basically guaranteed for LA OG, there is no point in "pulling out" Beautiful Tong and wanted to use KM to catch Odo, but 🇯🇵 used Hayata to catch KM)
缘来是你么: 回复 贴吧用户_G2WC2Jy :相比之下啊，这几次不都也是遇到国乒才输的？
2025-10-15 18:42回复
(In comparison, didn’t [they/she] lose to the CNT only these past few times?)
贴吧用户_G2WC2Jy: 回复 缘来是你么 :连金琴英和阿库拉都打不过，早该给美和让位了
2025-10-15 18:48回复
([She] couldn't even beat KKY and Akula, so [she] should have given way to Miwa)
胡桃不是桃T.Tao: 回复 缘来是你么 :早田为了奥运奖牌打废了自己的职业生涯，以后只会走下坡路
2025-10-15 19:32回复
(Hayata ruined her career for an Olympic medal and will only go downhill in the future)
缘来是你么: 回复 胡桃不是桃T.Tao : :值得，日女这辈子能有几个拿奥运单打铜牌？荣誉在现役也仅次于迷马了
2025-10-15 19:50回复
(It's worth it. How many JPN women can get the Olympic singles bronze medal in their lifetime? The honor is second only to Mima in active service)
簖蠡: 回复 缘来是你么 :并不值得，职业选手重要的是一直稳定的打下去，昙花一现没什么用，只要表现不好就立马会被赞助商给抛弃，比较好的结果就是变成教练了
2025-10-15 20:25回复
(It's not worth it. The most important thing for a professional player is to keep playing steadily. A short-lived success is useless. If the performance is not good, the sponsor will immediately abandon [them]. The better outcome is to become a coach)
陈唯七: 回复 簖蠡 :每个运动员坚持就是为了奥运会，洛杉矶还远，以日本队内竞争到时候能不能上谁都说不好，不把握住巴黎的单打铜牌以后能不能得奥运奖牌都成问题
2025-10-16 11:49回复
(Every athlete persists for the Olympics. Los Angeles is still far away. Given the competition within the JPN team, no one can say for sure who can make it. If [she] didn't seize the singles bronze medal in Paris, it will be questionable whether [she] can win Olympic medals in the future)

 

[NextLevel]

Coming from the one who denied the qualification of Mizutani to comment on Hayata based on the simple fact that he had no WTTC bronze medal. I guess you had a WTTC medal?

So please, stop wasting my time with more of this crap. Boll has no Olympic MS medal and yet how many people regard him as lower than Ovtcharov?

More folks from Japan (here for one) and mainland China are now saying the price Hayata paid was not worth it. Her action at WTT CS Yokohama 2025 was not typical of an Olympic medalist and has tarnished whatever little honor she got from Paris 2024.

日本在赌什么 (What was JPN betting on?)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/10128253591
我是超级良民 是赌日女这三个能带走国乒，还是赌桥本能过莎，或者赌美和能过🐟
IP属地:湖北来自Android客户端1楼2025-10-15 17:29回复
(Is it betting that these three JPN women can take the CNT with them, or betting that Hashimoto can get past Sha, or betting that Miwa can get past 🐟)

王楚钦（拧拉之神版） 最多也只能这样了，这就是日本最好的排阵。
日本队想取胜只能3：0，只要拖到第四盘就是死
IP属地:北京来自Android客户端2楼2025-10-15 17:32
回复
(That's the best they can do. This is JPN's best lineup.
JPN can only win 3-0. If it drags on to the fourth match, they're doomed)

官配无爱 🇯🇵不是最优解了吗？我们想上鳗鱼抓小盒，结果🇯🇵派桥本耗鳗鱼。因为蒯曼基本稳上洛奥，再薅美同也没意义，想上蒯曼抓大藤，结果🇯🇵上了早田抓蒯曼
IP属地:上海来自Android客户端4楼2025-10-15 17:34收起回复
(Isn't it the optimal solution for 🇯🇵? We wanted to use Eel [WMY] to catch Little Carton, but 🇯🇵 sent Hashimoto to grind Eel. Because KM is basically guaranteed for LA OG, there is no point in "pulling out" Beautiful Tong and wanted to use KM to catch Odo, but 🇯🇵 used Hayata to catch KM)
缘来是你么: 回复 贴吧用户_G2WC2Jy :相比之下啊，这几次不都也是遇到国乒才输的？
2025-10-15 18:42回复
(In comparison, didn’t [they/she] lose to the CNT only these past few times?)
贴吧用户_G2WC2Jy: 回复 缘来是你么 :连金琴英和阿库拉都打不过，早该给美和让位了
2025-10-15 18:48回复
([She] couldn't even beat KKY and Akula, so [she] should have given way to Miwa)
胡桃不是桃T.Tao: 回复 缘来是你么 :早田为了奥运奖牌打废了自己的职业生涯，以后只会走下坡路
2025-10-15 19:32回复
(Hayata ruined her career for an Olympic medal and will only go downhill in the future)
缘来是你么: 回复 胡桃不是桃T.Tao : :值得，日女这辈子能有几个拿奥运单打铜牌？荣誉在现役也仅次于迷马了
2025-10-15 19:50回复
(It's worth it. How many JPN women can get the Olympic singles bronze medal in their lifetime? The honor is second only to Mima in active service)
簖蠡: 回复 缘来是你么 :并不值得，职业选手重要的是一直稳定的打下去，昙花一现没什么用，只要表现不好就立马会被赞助商给抛弃，比较好的结果就是变成教练了
2025-10-15 20:25回复
(It's not worth it. The most important thing for a professional player is to keep playing steadily. A short-lived success is useless. If the performance is not good, the sponsor will immediately abandon [them]. The better outcome is to become a coach)
陈唯七: 回复 簖蠡 :每个运动员坚持就是为了奥运会，洛杉矶还远，以日本队内竞争到时候能不能上谁都说不好，不把握住巴黎的单打铜牌以后能不能得奥运奖牌都成问题
2025-10-16 11:49回复
(Every athlete persists for the Olympics. Los Angeles is still far away. Given the competition within the JPN team, no one can say for sure who can make it. If [she] didn't seize the singles bronze medal in Paris, it will be questionable whether [she] can win Olympic medals in the future)

No, seriously. I am happy you have your bronze medal for protecting your hand. You clearly know whar it takes to win a medal and you think that Hayata could have done better following your advice so she could be like you. So I am happy for you.

It is amazing you continue to cite Tieba users on Hayata ruining her career. I would be surprised if anyone would trade retiring at 24 from TT with an Olympic bronze for playing till 32 without one. The funny thing is that she hasnt retired, she just isnt top of Japan anymore and even that was never a guarantee if she didnt win the medal and foxused on her hand, who knows whether the damage was already irreversible. You don't give up critical moments like playing for a medal for anything other than maybe risk to your life. I say maybe because athletesbrisk their lives for stuff like that, it is what they have dreamt of everyday. That Hayata is still playing is enough to tell you you should shut up until she retires. There are athletes in wheelchairs. She just has to manage a condition.

It is easy to waste time on nonsense but your ability to continue to debate this is one of the things that just shows people your core values and not in a good way either. In any case I shall ignore you more, too many things for me to do than waste time on crap like this.

 

[tzifos]

I am eager to see this WD team in WTT Star Contender London:

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

I am eager to see this WD team in WTT Star Contender London:
View attachment 38601

Yes, it'll be interesting. Miwa will need to really be on her toes as she will often be on the receiving end of an attack of varying degrees depending on the quality of Honoka's chops. Hitomi has been able to make it work with Shibata winning 4 Feeder WD titles.

Oddly enough, Hina and Mima are top seeds in the Qualifying draw for WD. They are silver medalists in WD at both the 2019 WTTC and 2021 WTTC.

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

Adriana Diaz will be joining Kinoshita Abyell ... a team already overloaded with talent (Miwa, ZYL, Nagasaki, Hirano, CIC, Zhang Rui).

 

[NextLevel]

Adriana Diaz will be joining Kinoshita Abyell ... a team already overloaded with talent (Miwa, ZYL, Nagasaki, Hirano, CIC, Zhang Rui).

Rules must have limits on foreigners so it must be because not everyone is available to play? It would be awesome for them to train together if they could.