Truls using new stuff from Stiga in Yokohama

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Helix at 80 euros, yikes.

imagine table tennis companies comes and make car tires too.

 

[S2000]

imagine table tennis companies comes and make car tires too.

Imagine how high the cars would fly for some little thing on the race track due to the bumpiness of the tt rubber

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Imagine how high the cars would fly for some little thing on the race track due to the bumpiness od the tt rubber

that is if you can afford to fit 4 tires on the car

 

[vvk1]

Lol, according Stiga's own website, Helix55 speed/spin/control ratings are 178/142/55 while Dragon Power 55's are 162/146/55. So Helix is faster, less spinny and yet offers same control ...¯\_(ツ)\_/¯

 

[po-stit]

Lol, according Stiga's own website, Helix55 speed/spin/control ratings are 178/142/55 while Dragon Power 55's are 162/146/55. So Helix is faster, less spinny and yet offers same control ...¯\_(ツ)\_/¯

TBH i think those stats from manufacturers are a little rubbish. In that regard the only one i trust is butterfly but always with a "grain of salt". I don't trust manufacturers who just pump out rubber after rubber claiming its the next best thing.

 

[piligrim]

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

TBH i think those stats from manufacturers are a little rubbish. In that regard the only one i trust is butterfly but always with a "grain of salt". I don't trust manufacturers who just pump out rubber after rubber claiming its the next best thing.

the marketing person's who job is to come up with the explanation on the rubber packaging - I'm sure had to be under the influence

 

[phillypong]

Let's not forget that the pro players get different rubbers than the mass production ones.

 

[NextLevel]

Let's not forget that the pro players get different rubbers than the mass production ones.

True, but the XH is going to be close to whatever he has, the main difference might be whether there is any sponge left to squeeze in there.

 

[Reaper]

imagine table tennis companies comes and make car tires too.

maybe. wait till you find out that stiga makes chainsaws an lawn mower machines

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

maybe. wait till you find out that stiga makes chainsaws an lawn mower machines

haha
that however is a different company all together, it isn't by Stiga Sports (they do have other sporting goods)

 

[S2000]

maybe. wait till you find out that stiga makes chainsaws an lawn mower machines

maybe. wait till you find out that stiga makes chainsaws an lawn mower machines

Actually the Stiga parent company Stiga do both things - see stiga.se instead of stigasports.

 

[backspacer]

imagine table tennis companies comes and make car tires too.

All the EJs would have to buy new tires every month thinking they can go faster.

 

[disaster3]

It seems the launch of Stiga's new rubbers went unnoticed.
Even Truls's recent win didn't help. Stiga seems to be clueless when it comes to marketing.
You'll see what happens online after October 1st when Zyre-03 goes on sale.
The other things is the price of Helix and lack of good marketing = disaster

 

[S2000]

It seems the launch of Stiga's new rubbers went unnoticed.
Even Truls's recent win didn't help. Stiga seems to be clueless when it comes to marketing.
You'll see what happens online after October 1st when Zyre-03 goes on sale.
The other things is the price of Helix and lack of good marketing = disaster

So in your world Stiga should have similar price as Zyre? The more expensive the more it sells... Well as for marketing and old customers - were offered a decent discount on Helix. That is smart marketing with the old customer base.

 

[disaster3]

So in your world Stiga should have similar price as Zyre? The more expensive the more it sells... Well as for marketing and old customers - were offered a decent discount on Helix. That is smart marketing with the old customer base.

and where did I write that? and the rest your interpretation... How old are you? Sorry for asking but these days, I see young people struggling with reading comprehension. Even my 18-year-old daughter.
To clarify, They (Stiga) mentioned shortly about new rubbers this coincided with the last win of Truls. Perfect time, but where was/is marketing campaign about it? Like i.e. for Zyre. I know Stiga do not have the same budget as BTY but at least they should have done anything to make it popular/announced before it will be released.
As a amateur i really track all those news and really interested in new equipment but in case of Helix there was almost nothing. They should have used Truls as a really good ambassador for marketing purpose taking into account that he plays these new rubbers. He is really famous (and they did not use it) as mentioned in my initial post they did nothing.
Do you understand now what my initial post was about? I hope so.

I blame Stiga for doing nothing in terms of new rubbers but setting the price in the level of Dignics thinking that w/o any campaign it will sell like hot rolls. They have what they did. only that much and as much as that.

Thank you and no offence to you!

 

[S2000]

and where did I write that? and the rest your interpretation... How old are you? Sorry for asking but these days, I see young people struggling with reading comprehension. Even my 18-year-old daughter.
To clarify, They (Stiga) mentioned shortly about new rubbers this coincided with the last win of Truls. Perfect time, but where was/is marketing campaign about it? Like i.e. for Zyre. I know Stiga do not have the same budget as BTY but at least they should have done anything to make it popular/announced before it will be released.
As a amateur i really track all those news and really interested in new equipment but in case of Helix there was almost nothing. They should have used Truls as a really good ambassador for marketing purpose taking into account that he plays these new rubbers. He is really famous (and they did not use it) as mentioned in my initial post they did nothing.
Do you understand now what my initial post was about? I hope so.

I blame Stiga for doing nothing in terms of new rubbers but setting the price in the level of Dignics thinking that w/o any campaign it will sell like hot rolls. They have what they did. only that much and as much as that.

Thank you and no offence to you!

Hi,

Firstly please don't discuss age and I am not in the mood for that which should tell you something. In terms of reading comprehension - well many teenagers cannot spell in their native language even. Anyhow, your post was mostly lamentation so I felt free to give my interpretation. Sure, of course their marketing could be improved. Big difference with BTY is that they have many influencers also showing in this forum. With that said I do not think Helix is for the masses maybe not even decent amateurs. Probably fun to test but it is a very fast rubber even the M. I am really mostly interested in what the rubber's performance are nothing else thereby my reaction.

I think on the other hand the Mantra Pro was a hit and Dna Hybrid really nice to use. I use these because I can get a good price but I have no doubt they are as good as the competitors rubbers. The bigger challenge is actually the player's level and skills.

 

[Tembel]

and where did I write that? and the rest your interpretation... How old are you? Sorry for asking but these days, I see young people struggling with reading comprehension. Even my 18-year-old daughter.
To clarify, They (Stiga) mentioned shortly about new rubbers this coincided with the last win of Truls. Perfect time, but where was/is marketing campaign about it? Like i.e. for Zyre. I know Stiga do not have the same budget as BTY but at least they should have done anything to make it popular/announced before it will be released.
As a amateur i really track all those news and really interested in new equipment but in case of Helix there was almost nothing. They should have used Truls as a really good ambassador for marketing purpose taking into account that he plays these new rubbers. He is really famous (and they did not use it) as mentioned in my initial post they did nothing.
Do you understand now what my initial post was about? I hope so.

I blame Stiga for doing nothing in terms of new rubbers but setting the price in the level of Dignics thinking that w/o any campaign it will sell like hot rolls. They have what they did. only that much and as much as that.

Thank you and no offence to you!

To be fair, as you can see in my original post, Stiga started announcing the release of something new, to be released in the end of august, already at the start of Yokohama. This marketing was launched at least to my knowledge in all major social media flows. It was not something they ad-hoc, in a rush released because Truls managed to win Sweden Smash.

So in fact, although discretely, they had started this marketing campaign that you were missing, earlier. I am not going to judge if this is good marketing, trying to build up hype, without full disclosure or not.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Big difference with BTY is that they have many influencers also showing in this forum.

What?

 

[tzifos]

What?

I am a BTY influencer, not a very prosperous one as you can tell.

I am trying to influence BTY to sell the Tenergy @ 45E, Dignics @ 50Euros and Zyre03 @ 52 Euros. No luck!!