Victas VS>401 my impressions

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Recently I had posted about the Victas Victas VS>401 and had received some useful insights from others who played with it... Yet many questions remained for me and finally I have had the chance of trying it myself on the FH. I will be posting my first impressions here as well as follows ups so that anyone interested in this beautiful beast can benefit.
 
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In a nutshell:
Not slow, powerful, very spinny but hit sharply with speed, can be used as any other rubber by non chopers. All round play is perfect

In detail:

I got black 2.0 on my FZD Alc replacing my 3 month old tenergy which slowed a lot and lost a lot of grip. I've also played H3 National blue sponge boosted with two layers of falco long. So I can draw comparisons to these two popular rubbers to give a good idea

Speed on active shots:

3rd ball blistering fast and spinny when power looping against Push. Same speed as tenergy but with less arc safety, as grippy as a new tenergy but much better than 3 month old tenergy. The ball will always grip and I never hit the net even though the arc isn't very high.. all in all monster 3rd ball rubber that can finish the point there and then , slightly slower than full power h3 national but that's irrelevant as speed you get is already enough to win the point and at least on par with tenergy speed for this shot.

On serve: speed is lower than tenergy 05 which did not allow me the occasional blistering fast long curving long side spin serve to the corners... I miss that so for me it's a worse serving rubber than tenergy, but as good as H3 National because short spinny servers are indeed great. Tenergy can vary long and fat and short spinny better so for me tenergy serves better although it's much more challenging to keep it short with T05.

Drive: speed is there, a lot faster than H3, slower than tenergy, maybe same as Fastarc G1 but with a tiny bit more effort. Spinon drive tenergy wins because it even spins flat hits and gives arc... H3 doesn't at all.this rubber arcs a bit more than H3 on drive, but won't really give spin of you hit flat and clearance over the net isn't very high so it's always better to add at least 20% spin by tilting the racket angle... Spin gives safety and speed - I'm this way similar to h3 More than tenergy... But it's much faster than H3 on drive... Doesn't feel dead.... And once I gave that little bit of spin drives are low fast and dangerous.

5th ball and rallies
Here the rubber kind of reminded me of rakza 7 , spinny controlled, fast enough but not super deadly... H3 in top hands would be most deadly. T05 in good hands would be controlled and dangerous.. this rubber is probably a bit more controlled but has less arc safety here too, and you have to hot a bit harder than with tenergy to keep the attack dangerous... But then again not as much as with h3 where you need to be swinging at 90%+ force each shot and in position... With Victas 401 you can be a little off balance, a little bit late and still land good shots, once again better than H3 the worse balls didn't go to the net... So ok you're still in the point even if the opponents block surprised you or pressured you....but here comes something special.....

On 5th ball you don't really HAVE to loop with this rubber as you do with h3 or tenergy!!! I had many points where I made a string 3rd ball my opponent moved back and blocked powerfully, so I just made a drop shot or even a short push!! Maybe that's why it's a chopping rubber! You can switch from loops to push,drop shot, pushes very easily... It reminds me of sriver El which was the only rubber I could do this with....this means you can vary play much more, you're not forced to attack or loop.

Full on looping rally the rubber is worse than tenergy 05 but still manageable although I found myself instinctively using a more all round style to break such loop rallies.

On active blocks great fast direct controlled not spin sensitive, but not as fast as a T05 block.. much faster therefore much better than H3. On passive block it's a tiny bit too weak for me, but I don't passive block very often I always do something with my wrist or add force back
 
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OK so today I used the Victas 401 while playing matches against a superior player. For reference, we played 9 sets and it was 9-0, but on every set I scored 7 or more points with 3 sets finishing 12-10 or 11-9.

How did the rubber perform against a superior player where I was under pressure?

It did very well indeed! In most cases I could trust it, and I could easily feel what to do. No adjustment from T05 was needed for me (but bear in mind that I have played H3 before and I adapt to rubbers very well as I have a solid technical foundation). 3rd ball was amazing, rallies were easy even at mid distance I kept up and never felt unsafe although I always had to keep the net in mind whereas with T05 you can ignore the net basically. However, if you have good technical skills in counter looping, 3rd ball, side spin loop - then basically the rubber plays perfectly and no disadvantage at all - I do not really know why it's considered a chopping rubber....it's basically a do it all rubber which is hard and focussed on spin, but which as great power when you SPIN hard (not HIT hard). I never played Dignics 09c BUT....from what I read (amazing grip, hard, powerful, monster spin) - this could easily be a description of Victas 401.... can ANYONE tell me if they are actually similar?? The only thing I noticed is people say throw on D09c is high, but with victas 401 it's definitely medium....but....doesn't change anything, just loop slightly differently....

OK now... let's be as critical as possible: where did it concern me or maybe even disappoint?

1) smashes were not so reliable - with T05 I hated smashes as the trampoline effect made the ball lose control and go long - with Victas 401 I would dare say it's better BUT when smashing under pressure the ball went into the net - if there's some time and less pressure I could conciously add 10% spin to the smash and it was great actually - but a sudden flat direct smash hit the net more than once.... the best smashing Rubber I have ever used was Stiga Mendo MP during speed glue era and I still have a sheet just to smash for fun with some friends... if the Mendo MP is 10/10, Victas 401 is 7/10 and tenergy is 6.5/10

2) The hardness of the rubber meant that when I took a wrong decision of my angle during a rally the ball shot out , more so than in the net - with H3 it was out AND in the net... so definitely much more forgiving than H3 but a bit less forgiving than T05 which is not really forgiving either. For forgiveness nothing can probably beat classic Sriver EL which was my BH rubber in speed glue era... if Sriver EL allows you to adjust the ball during a shot and forgives 10/10, then T05 is 7/10 , Victas 401 is 6.5 / 10 and H3 is 5/10 - indeed this is why people say correctly that H3 is a hard rubber to play. Incidentally, reading about T19 I think that after 4/5 months when my rubbers run out I might get the T19 at least on one side because a lot of the descriptions I hear make it sound like a modern Sriver EL!

3) Unlike what I said earlier (when I played a weaker player) the rubber IS SPIN sensitive when blocking, especially on slow spinny loops which are much better counter looped. My opponent today was very spinny and controlled with very dangerous placement - this means that I could not always be in the perfect position for the block and the ball had much more rotation - then.....it sprang out - the grip of the rubber kicked in and it just shot off the table - similar to T05 but with a different feel because with T05 you feel that it's going to overshoot because it's soft - here with Victas 401 you won't really notice but the ball pops - so it means I basically need to improve my skill to handle blocking well with this rubber.
 
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I'm a long term user of the Victas 401, and have tried many other rubbers, including the D09C, but I always come back to the 401. I broadly agree with your review, just some subtle differences, which are no doubt because of different technique.
The topsheet of the 401 is quite soft and a little tacky, so when I brush loop I get massive spin, more than D09C, To get the power you need to engage the sponge, and as the firm sponge kicks in, it's quite a powerful rubber. For D09C is easier to get this power, but the 401 has a higher top-speed.

If you've tried it in 1.5mm, you'll find it's a great rubber for chopping, very spinny and high control.
 
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One thing to add after having used this rubber for competitive matches with better players is that if you have an attacking style, it requires a lot of stamina, physical power and endurance because you have to swing hard and fast on every attacking shot. Therefore if you're going to get this for spinny power looping and 3rd ball attack you should be fit and strong as even the weight is tiring over 3 hours of play. I will see if I struggle with this issue and it will decide if I buy this rubber again or switch to T05 again or D05 . Overall it has amazing advantages, I'm even considering trying 402 if it's the same but more attack oriented
 
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I'm a long term user of the Victas 401, and have tried many other rubbers, including the D09C, but I always come back to the 401. I broadly agree with your review, just some subtle differences, which are no doubt because of different technique.
The topsheet of the 401 is quite soft and a little tacky, so when I brush loop I get massive spin, more than D09C, To get the power you need to engage the sponge, and as the firm sponge kicks in, it's quite a powerful rubber. For D09C is easier to get this power, but the 401 has a higher top-speed.

If you've tried it in 1.5mm, you'll find it's a great rubber for chopping, very spinny and high control.

Today I tried it in 1.5 on friend's Korbel and it really is pretty cool rubber. In max I'm sure I would like it more than my D09C too... Given how this rubber is kind of unknown, I must say it's pretty good - for those who like hard sponges...
 
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I'm even considering trying 402 if it's the same but more attack oriented
I've tried that one too, having the same thought. I was disappointed though, the topsheet just doesn't have that same tack/grip and the throw felt a lot lower (for brush loops).
 
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Since I had reached my ceiling with an offensive game and won't be playing competition for a while, I switched to a defensive game with long pips. On my forehand is a victas VS 401 in 1.8. I am really impressed with this rubber. Chops are easy to control and have a lot of spin. Attacking is also amazingly easy. It is already my favorite rubber. It is a really heavy rubber though so for double inverted it can be problematic.
 
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Just changed from DHS hurricane 3 to the Victas vs 401 and am pleasantly surprised. Adjustment was quick and it is a much more forgiving rubber. Despite not being nearly as tacky as chinese rubbers, the ball bites into the sponge more and generates a lot of spin. Chops are much easier. Attacks need some spin initially, but if you engage the ball you can generate some very powerful shots.
 
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