Viscaria user dilemma

[Chrupciok]

Hi, I'm having a bit of a dilemma with the Viscaria. I have a model that weighs just under 84 grams and has a speed of just under 1400 Hz, so it's not overly fast, which is great for me.

I've been using it for a while now and I overaly think it's a great blade. It has this amazing advantage that the better the quality of your stroke (footwork, power and angle), the more it "helps" the stroke.

The problem is that I'm getting older and slower. I notice that if I'm late or something else goes wrong with my stroke, the blade swings to the other side of the pendulum. In short, it's a bit unforgiving. Of course, I see this as motivation to improve, but sometimes I just want to enjoy the game and feel more confident and safe.

After this long introduction, the question is: what blade would you recommend that will support a mid-gears spin game and give me a little more room for error? The balance on the handle is welcome - I bought a Donic Extreme to test it, but it turned out to be quite head-heavy and somewhat springy.

 

[merlin el mago]

Inner?

 

[Chrupciok]

Inner?

Yes, I tested Donic Extreme, which is an innerfiber blade, slightly slower (1350 Hz) 2xlimba-carbon-kiri. As you can see, innerfiber alone isn't necessarily enough in my case.

 

[merlin el mago]

If inner not enough try 7 plies all wood.

 

[Jslick89]

what does the vibration frequency measure in terms of performance? like you mention 1400 and say that is slow. what would be considered a fast Hz frequency? sorry not trying to derail i just think it might be finally time for me to learn.

also, when you say unforgiving, do you mean that you're hitting a lot of balls into the net? or long? or just all over the place and not consistent?

 

[Chrupciok]

what does the vibration frequency measure in terms of performance? like you mention 1400 and say that is slow. what would be considered a fast Hz frequency? sorry not trying to derail i just think it might be finally time for me to learn.

also, when you say unforgiving, do you mean that you're hitting a lot of balls into the net? or long? or just all over the place and not consistent?

"Blade frequency tends to reflect blade stiffness and inherent speed. The higher the frequency, the stiffer and faster the blade." Like it is not showing exact blade speed but can be indication of it. You can find spreadsheet with a whole list of various measurements.

Table Tennis Blade Frequency (Speed) Compendium

docs.google.com

I'm lacking arc on bh side, spinny flicks etc. Blocking is fine(ish)but i'm not feeling 100% safe doing it.

 

[muhammad]

I like Outer carbon baldes with auyous cores. They have the same responsivness as all outer carbon blades, linear respose (no threshold after witch the blade is fast like inner carbon blades ), less bouncy in short games than inner carbon blades, and generally more forgiving than outer carbon blades with kiri core.

unfortunately only stiga makes such blades. Other brands use kiri core for outer carbon blades, like viscaria, which makes blades faster and less forgiving.

Currently I play with Carbonado 145 and I like it, but it is out of production as usual with Stiga. Reading specs and online reviews I think the nearest blade to it will be I1, but I didn't use it.

Or you can get one custom made.

 

[anubhav1984]

"Blade frequency tends to reflect blade stiffness and inherent speed. The higher the frequency, the stiffer and faster the blade." Like it is not showing exact blade speed but can be indication of it. You can find spreadsheet with a whole list of various measurements.

Table Tennis Blade Frequency (Speed) Compendium

docs.google.com

I'm lacking arc on bh side, spinny flicks etc. Blocking is fine(ish)but i'm not feeling 100% safe doing it.

I would probably recommend a Butterfly Lin Gaoyuan ALC for a similar playing characteristics to what you are looking for. Those are relatively harder to find though, these days.
I do have a similar blade, made by Yinhe (made for the DPRK national team player Ri Jong Sik) that plays very close to the Lin Gaoyuan ALC, and in some aspects even better. I have loved playing with that blade. It plays better than my viscaria (which is also in the same weight range of 88-89 gms).
The thing that I liked most about the Ri Jong Sik blade was that it had ample amount of top end gears and the lower end was lacking power like some of the other blades do. it doesn't have the famous w968 type springy effect on high end power shots but it does deliver quite a punch, none the less. So definitely pretty linear on the higher end and very controllable on the lower end.