What elo rating is TTD and Pongfinity?

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Louis, Tom, mikka and Otto are fine, Dan is nowhere close to 2000. more something between 1800-1900. Emil below 1800.
please be aware that this does not mean Dan or Emil are bad. The vast majority of players in DE is between 1000-1400 points. 1800 equals ~top 5%.
Anyway both do not have any serious chance to against the first 4 players mentioned. If the difference would only be 100 points, they would win every fifth game
I'm top 5% of France and I'm very far from Otto, Dan or the others. They are more like top 0,5%.
 
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But the Euro players play in America and vice versa. Shouldn't all the ratings converge over time when they play each other enough?

So if Ma Jinbao is 2800 in USATT, but some lowly German guys comes to US and beats him, then Ma Jinbao's rating would decline. and vice versa
Yes. Different players from different places do play each other as you correctly wrote.

The thing is where are they playing. If they play a sanctioned USATT match, (in USA) then it is the USATT rating used and updated. If they play sanctioned Germany, (in Germany) TTR system is used. If they play sanctioned Canada, then Canadian rating system is used.

None of these systems are synced nor should they, it would be chaos. Although all those systems are ELO based systems... they just operate differently and have different algorithms used... and have their nuances of have rating adjustments are done.

What you probably looking for is a system called RATINGS CENTRAL. They used to record all the pro events and update rating points. RC is an ELO based system with its own statistical probability model and operation. It is designed to be having less standard deviation with more match data vs know players. Some other countrys' leagues use this ratings system... it is pretty much free to them... and RC gives out some nice league/tourney software.

RC is run by a Boston math dude... it could have/should have become USATT's rating system of record... but there were so many internal politicking actions going on in USATT 20+ years ago (how shocking !!) (our current state is still like that !!) that it did not get adopted as the USATT ratings system of record... still, it has a lot to offer and some clubs/leagues/tourneys take them up on the offer.

You could play at a tourney run with RC provided software... and it reports results to USATT ratings system... and also RC. So... you could have TWO USA ratings.

So RC might be the closest to what you are searching for... but not all the world's matches are reported/recorded... but RC has made the best effort so far to accomplish what you were asking about.

Still... every country or state or league can run stuff their way... and do. If it makes sense to everyone, then everyone would use RC voluntarily... but that is an over-generalization / over-simplification of the situation.
 
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As for how internal politicking works @TensorBackhand ... look no further than where you play !!! (SD Balboa)
Back in the day, 1971 world CHAMPION Stellan Bengston was running the SD Balboa TT club... he grew that sucka from so many dozens to grow it so large like quadruple XXL increase in membership... I think well over 400 members. (or was it 600+?) Stellan did the right things to get people motivated to play and compete and grow the club and develop players levels while they could still have some "fun"... which grows membership, which grows some moneys...

However, Stellan's PROVEN way to grow the club clashed big time with the preferred vision of the old-man 1000ish rated armchair ESTABLISHMENT... that Stellan got forced out.

No look at what SD Balboa is... just a place to play sum matches now and again a few times a week for some few hours... (but yeah some nive people)... but that club is not growing for crap nor is the playing level of the crowd there growing... and if you look at it,

Now look at what Stellan did very soon after he got Das Boot... he opened up a fine TT academy that filled up to max capacity so fast it spin ur head... They would need a new larger facility to take on more players... they must have a couple hundred plus over they going at it hard and paying and loving it. it is almost like trying to locate and secure the services of the A-Team to get lessons from Stellan now.

Short of it is, despite the cold shoulder, Stellan opened up his own gig and showed San Diego how it can be dun... and he is all over it.

How 'bout THOSE internal politics ???

Our USATT has had those going on for decades and decades.
 
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... and we could go on and on about how inconsistent USATT ratings are... (and why) and how they tend to differ regionally...

You could be 1900-2000 rated in MO, OK, AK and KS... and you play enough tourneys and events in So Cal or Bay Area and you suddenly cannot keep ur head above 1500-1600.
 
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Yes. Different players from different places do play each other as you correctly wrote.

The thing is where are they playing. If they play a sanctioned USATT match, (in USA) then it is the USATT rating used and updated. If they play sanctioned Germany, (in Germany) TTR system is used. If they play sanctioned Canada, then Canadian rating system is used.

None of these systems are synced nor should they, it would be chaos. Although all those systems are ELO based systems... they just operate differently and have different algorithms used... and have their nuances of have rating adjustments are done.

What you probably looking for is a system called RATINGS CENTRAL. They used to record all the pro events and update rating points. RC is an ELO based system with its own statistical probability model and operation. It is designed to be having less standard deviation with more match data vs know players. Some other countrys' leagues use this ratings system... it is pretty much free to them... and RC gives out some nice league/tourney software.

RC is run by a Boston math dude... it could have/should have become USATT's rating system of record... but there were so many internal politicking actions going on in USATT 20+ years ago (how shocking !!) (our current state is still like that !!) that it did not get adopted as the USATT ratings system of record... still, it has a lot to offer and some clubs/leagues/tourneys take them up on the offer.

You could play at a tourney run with RC provided software... and it reports results to USATT ratings system... and also RC. So... you could have TWO USA ratings.

So RC might be the closest to what you are searching for... but not all the world's matches are reported/recorded... but RC has made the best effort so far to accomplish what you were asking about.

Still... every country or state or league can run stuff their way... and do. If it makes sense to everyone, then everyone would use RC voluntarily... but that is an over-generalization / over-simplification of the situation.
yes, I want a global ELO system that is calibrated to the entire global population of players.

Like they have in Starcraft or Chess
 
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Yes. Different players from different places do play each other as you correctly wrote.

The thing is where are they playing. If they play a sanctioned USATT match, (in USA) then it is the USATT rating used and updated. If they play sanctioned Germany, (in Germany) TTR system is used. If they play sanctioned Canada, then Canadian rating system is used.

None of these systems are synced nor should they, it would be chaos.
Chess Elo is worldwide synced and it's not chaos. It has the following drawback : players in low density areas are overrated, and players in high density area are underrated. Indian players are globally underrated for example. Within a country you have the same. In France, players in Paris are underrated compared to players from the countryside.
 
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... and we could go on and on about how inconsistent USATT ratings are... (and why) and how they tend to differ regionally...

You could be 1900-2000 rated in MO, OK, AK and KS... and you play enough tourneys and events in So Cal or Bay Area and you suddenly cannot keep ur head above 1500-1600.
Yes, even in SD, the ratings at Balboa and ASLT are not the same. 1900 at ASLT is about 2050 at Balboa
 
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I don't know if this helps but here are pongfinitys finnish rating points(rating+bonus rating):
- Otto 2439+48
- Miikka 2322+7
- Emil 1860+0
- Benedek Olah 2625+5
- Beginner 700-900 rated
- Top 100 is around 2000 rated
Bonus rating is the amount of winned games
Rating is elo style
 
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