What is the right way to improve my backhand?

[NDH]

Maybe you didn’t read the start of the topic, but i don’t really think that you can “barely walk” and won on 1800-2000 players.

Is that US rating or Ukrainian (based on your flag)?

 

[MOG]

Thanks, mate !

I can do the basics pretty well. I’m starting my training with all the basics moves: 5-7 minutes of pushes. After that forehand/backhand drive, 5-10 minutes. And i can do 50-100 those drive shots without making a mistake if needed to. If i cant drive properly why i even should have strong loops ? Driving is easy to me. Maybe you didn’t read the start of the topic, but i don’t really think that you can “barely walk” and won on 1800-2000 players.

It’s exactly the wrist engaging what separates good and powerful backhand loop from average one, and that’s what I’m working on. The whole dynamic of that move is pretty specific, i guess I just have to keep my focus on backhand oriented training as i do now, and it will work in time.

Yes fair enough, its worth considering though, sometimes even strong players in sports go back to basics to correct a technique as I am sure you would know as a coach yourself.

I would get coach to look at you shoulder and wrist then. A lot of good players have too much movement in upper arm and shoulder or not a straight enough wrist that is in line with your forearm, even pro's. This does lead to inconsistency IMO. The tenseness of a match would only exasperate this.

 

[SleepyMaster]

Is that US rating or Ukrainian (based on your flag)?

We have our own rating system, but it can be adjusted to elo usatt rating for you guys, for better understanding of my level of play. I have already did it in a previous post where I’m answering to upsidedownCarl 🙂

 

[SleepyMaster]

Yes fair enough, its worth considering though, sometimes even strong players in sports go back to basics to correct a technique as I am sure you would know as a coach yourself.

I would get coach to look at you shoulder and wrist then. A lot of good players have too much movement in upper arm and shoulder or not a straight enough wrist that is in line with your forearm, even pro's. This does lead to inconsistency IMO. The tenseness of a match would only exasperate this.

True, true ! Strong basics is necessary for every sport. You never should underestimate them. So do i.

By the way, a had the same shoulder problem when just started to play. Too much of a shoulder movement from down to up, not a lot of a wrist. My shoulder started to get stiff after 15 mins of such a backhand training. And there is a lot of players that playing like that. But i guess in this case it’s just a natural ability to topspin like that, if it’s working for them why not to do it 🙂 ?

I understand pretty clearly now, that it’s not my story, such a technique .
Now i try to keep my elbow closer to the body ( to prevent shoulder from popping up ), taking the ball at the center of my body, making shot more forward and wrist wrist wrist with acceleration. In that kind of fashion i can take a good amount of backhand training without making my shoulder getting in to a brick😁.

 

[cytivrat]

grandMast3r , it is actually a great result to start causing problems to first grade players after just 7-8 month of training. Really cool. Similar path took me around 4 years (but without private lessons and probably a little bit less of training). Now about backhand. I wasn't lucky with it - my first coach didn't know how to do it, and it looked like: "try to move your hand somewhere there and hit the table". Some of my opponents, despite having nice bh, were not very eager to correct my mistakes. This way of learning backhand wasn't effective at all. But it ended in a quite good banana flick and opening backhand loop (that could cause problems to candidate master level players). And after that I tried to cover most of the table with my forehand. At the end of 2020 after playing for many years, I finally started taking private coaching lessons. It took me like 2 month to actually understand where I was wrong with my backhand and what I should do and around 11-12 month to actually change something in tournament games (having 2 training sessions a week, each 1 or 1.5 hours long and a tournament once in 2 month). I guess, I'll need another year to make it closer to my FH.
o don't worry, if you are going to stay in this sport for long, then you just need right coach and time.

 

[IB66]

Hi,
Coaching every time over equipment!!
Stick with the training, it may take a little longer than you may expect, especially if you have a ‘natural ability’ for varied sports and pick things up quickly. Sometimes it’s just the way of things.
Usually routines go well, especially if they are ‘set’ routines, not so well for ‘irregular’ drills and can be pretty bad for match scenarios!! It takes time to pull it all together!!