Why so much hate against boosters?

[kapahoo]

Personally I would rather play someone who boosted their racket by a team of CNT scientists over playing someone using illegal serves. Boosting just doesn't make that much of a difference whereas serving illegally can make a huge difference.

Or using long pips...

 

[ThePongCommenter]

How about this: you bring your blades, glue and factory sealed, packaged rubbers and assemble your blade (or if someone in your staff does that, they do it) in a video surveilled assembly room.
Any rubber that's in a damaged package gets discarded (and donated to charity).

All bats assembled under surveillance get put in a sealed bag, and you need to present your sealed bag to the officials before the match. Broken seal? Not approved.

After the match, you return the bat to the officials and they put it in a sealed bag again.

Some players like to let their glue dry for hours or overnight before attaching it to the blade. Usually multiple layers. So they have to stay locked in a video surveilled room for hours or overnight? And who is sitting there monitoring that long?

 

[Tyce]

Some players like to let their glue dry for hours or overnight before attaching it to the blade. Usually multiple layers. So they have to stay locked in a video surveilled room for hours or overnight? And who is sitting there monitoring that long?

Leaving your stuff overnight in a video surveilled room, perhaps in a personal locker in said room, doesn't sound all that far fetched to me. Monitoring can be automated for the most part by having access control, then you only have to check for the bits where someone is actually in the room.

That being said yeah it's not a foolproof solution, but if you want to have full control over people's match blades, this could be how you do it.

 

[BlopChock]

Or using long pips...

This rubber is not correct!

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Some players like to let their glue dry for hours or overnight before attaching it to the blade. Usually multiple layers. So they have to stay locked in a video surveilled room for hours or overnight? And who is sitting there monitoring that long?

its not just overnight my friend
some players I personally know, has a 2.5 day to 3 day period (aka boosting)
you need a lot of these video surveilled rooms, 100 players, 100 rooms? haha

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

This rubber is not correct!

i'm waiting for Aruna's version

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

Leaving your stuff overnight in a video surveilled room, perhaps in a personal locker in said room, doesn't sound all that far fetched to me. Monitoring can be automated for the most part by having access control, then you only have to check for the bits where someone is actually in the room.

That being said yeah it's not a foolproof solution, but if you want to have full control over people's match blades, this could be how you do it.

I think the current protocols are fine the way they are. Most (all?) pro players want to practice with the blade they are going to use in the match.

 

[Dr Evil]

Most (all?) pro players want to practice with the blade they are going to use in the match.

Not all. Some like to practice with unboosted rubber and compete with boosted.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Not all. Some like to practice with unboosted rubber and compete with boosted.

Who?

 

[Dr Evil]

Who?

Redacted.

 

[ThePongCommenter]

Redacted.

Interesting... DM's are open lol

 

[Sriver1]

Not all. Some like to practice with unboosted rubber and compete with boosted.

Jajajajaja.

 

[zeio]

That might hurt the sales of ESN even more...

Nothing to see here, gotta go...

For the curious souls, ESN was the first to protest when the pro-booster camp within the ITTF submitted a free-for-all proposal.

Looking back on 2018/5/27 from 2024/10/5
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/is-ittf-corrupt-🤔.35377/post-483152

Corruption? Oh, you mean lobbying. There is no doubt about it. ESN lobbied the ITTF against the "liberation" of after-market booster when Claudia Herweg, former managing director of ESN, was heading the equipment committee.

2019/5/27

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/what-will-happen-to-boosting.21143/post-275685

Nothing. They're addressing boostering. There's no boostering in table tennis. There's only boosting! There's no after treatment in table tennis. There's only post-factory treatment. Whoever wrote this article should be fired.

Whatever. Factory tuning is just fine. This superficial test is a frigging waste of money to pamper the crybabies. Spend it on VAR, MF!

“It’s important to note that if we were to change the rule, we would not only be allowing boosters, but any after treatment on approved products. This would pose significant issues, as the ITTF is responsible for ensuring that there are no health risks related to our equipment or our sport as a whole. If we allow after treatments, how can we keep control of which kinds of substances will be used? This is simply not an option. Chemicals must stay in the hands of the professional manufacturing companies.

2019/5/28
https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/forum/topics/what-will-happen-to-boosting.21143/post-275790

The glorious motive is for health reasons and sport image, often citing the Agenda 21. The ulterior motive is to slow the game down, as Sharara put it on multiple occasions. There are also conspiracy theories that manufacturers like Butterfly and/or ESN want it banned for various reasons.

 

[igorponger]

Samsonov votes for fair play:
CRAFTY CHEATERS SHALL NEVER DO WELL.

Consulting expert of our research group, the renowned sport person Vladimir Samsonov, did suggested that some crafty players may take to the use of opaque adhesives so as to obstruct the procedure of racket control. With this in mind, we worked out a specific rule provision to mitigate the evil intention with players.

 

[Colestt]

Not all. Some like to practice with unboosted rubber and compete with boosted.

That seems very hard for me to believe. Who wants a totally different feel for matches than they practiced with?

 

[ThePongCommenter]

That seems very hard for me to believe. Who wants a totally different feel for matches than they practiced with?

I've never heard of any high level player doing this much less pros

 

[Dr Evil]

That seems very hard for me to believe. Who wants a totally different feel for matches than they practiced with?

I was surprised also, but it shouldn't be hard to believe. It's not much different from preferring new or freshly boosted rubbers for tournaments. For practice purposes unboosted rubber is like training at altitude for a sea level race. The difference in feel depends on the rubber (I doubt any H3 users do this) and how much booster you use. Experiment with some cheap rubber and you'll get the idea.

 

[Sriver1]

Samsonov votes for fair play:
CRAFTY CHEATERS SHALL NEVER DO WELL.

Consulting expert of our research group, the renowned sport person Vladimir Samsonov, did suggested that some crafty players may take to the use of opaque adhesives so as to obstruct the procedure of racket control. With this in mind, we worked out a specific rule provision to mitigate the evil intention with players.

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Vladimir Samsonov is coowner of VSport table tennis shop, where you can buy boosters.

 

[SwingRobo]

For anyone who thinks speed glue is safe, you are completely insane. Look up trichloroethylene, toluene, xylene or the other substances used in speed glue. Inhaling that on a daily basis is extremely harmful. Look at the ITTF timeline when they first were going to ban speed glue. Then something happened and they immediately banned it. Wonder what that something was to make them ban it immediately...

https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2016-09/documents/trichloroethylene.pdf

This is actually incorrect. In the later period, speed glue was mainly made of esters and cyclohexane, such as fair chack and noriko clean. These substances just smell a bit pungent, but their actual toxicity is not much higher than that of alcohol.

 

[Tyce]

This is actually incorrect. In the later period, speed glue was mainly made of esters and cyclohexane, such as fair chack and noriko clean. These substances just smell a bit pungent, but their actual toxicity is not much higher than that of alcohol.

If that means they have a legally low amount of voc content, then you can use it.