Yeah! Baby yeah! Let's go retro. Retro is the new sexy!

[Gozo Aruna]

It's time to make retro sexy again. Retro is the new sexy. Yeah! Baby yeah!

Mark V GPS?

Sriver?

• Gozo BH suxs!
• Gozo looking at ol'skool retro soft non-tensor rubber for BH use. Push & block with occasional drive topspin.
• BH to support and create opportunity for the FH to grab the points.
• ( 反 手 创 造 机 会。正 手 抢 分 )

 

[Lazer]

A regular Mark V is probably better than both of those. Put it on a special blade. Stick with it and learn FH topspin as well. After 6 months to a year start switching your gear up in steps…

Cheers
L-zr

 

[NDH]

Gozo….. don’t be afraid of the dark side!

I think the old school route is one of non committal.

I was initially going to suggest something that allows you to be defensively aggressive on the backhand (aggressive pushes etc), but actually….. are you going to want that ball back?

Do you prefer a less spinny ball to attack?

If so, pips just might be the answer for you.

Something like Mark V is simply going to set your opponent up to come in and attack you. If you are just passive blocking, chipping your pushes and not digging them and generally trying to play safe, I’m not sure you are going to be able to work it easily to your forehand before they come and attack you.

If you’ve abandoned attacking on the backhand altogether, embrace the dark side and use short pips.

 

[brokenball]

Hardbat is even more retro. I like playing hardbat when I can find an opponent.
Long rallies. Lots of exercise.

 

[Ghostzen]

Hardbat is even more retro. I like playing hardbat when I can find an opponent.
Long rallies. Lots of exercise.

Lars and Tony is a cracking match and a great choice to show off the skill needed to play HB BB. Thanks for sharing. Good to see that again.

 

[Gozo Aruna]

Gozo….. don’t be afraid of the dark side!

I think the old school route is one of non committal.

I was initially going to suggest something that allows you to be defensively aggressive on the backhand (aggressive pushes etc), but actually….. are you going to want that ball back?

Do you prefer a less spinny ball to attack?

If so, pips just might be the answer for you.

Something like Mark V is simply going to set your opponent up to come in and attack you. If you are just passive blocking, chipping your pushes and not digging them and generally trying to play safe, I’m not sure you are going to be able to work it easily to your forehand before they come and attack you.

If you’ve abandoned attacking on the backhand altogether, embrace the dark side and use short pips.

Curiouser curioser Mr White Rabbit.

What would you want to recommend to me initially my good Sir?

 

[NDH]

Curiouser curioser Mr White Rabbit.

What would you want to recommend to me initially my good Sir?

I was thinking something like Victas 401 or Dignics 09C (with a thinner sponge).

I play against some people who can absolutely rip it with backspin using Victas.

However, if you really dig it at someone and they simply push it back, you probably don't want all that spin coming back to you - It makes it much harder to launch the attack.

Using pips will give you more opportunities to come around and get your FH in play.

 

[jammmail]

I was thinking something like Victas 401 or Dignics 09C (with a thinner sponge).

I play against some people who can absolutely rip it with backspin using Victas.

However, if you really dig it at someone and they simply push it back, you probably don't want all that spin coming back to you - It makes it much harder to launch the attack.

Using pips will give you more opportunities to come around and get your FH in play.

What blade/types of blade are they using the 401 on @NDH ?

 

[desertman]

I just put Sriver D13 on my 20th century Butterfly Stayer that had D13.

From ahead of the curve,

Desertman

 

[NDH]

What blade/types of blade are they using the 401 on @NDH ?

Don't know what blade, but it's an ALL/DEF blade.

They are a chopper with pips on one side.

But their Victas side is brutally spinny!!

 

[IB66]

A few weeks ago I bought a sheet of Tackiness Drive and Sriver and stuck them on my Tamca 5000 blade. This was the first ‘proper’ bat I had. I wanted to see how it played 40+ yrs later!!
Spin capability is perhaps 75% of todays modern rubbers, at least in my hands it is!! Not dead but nowhere as bouncy. Even with a fast blade like the Tamca, it’s not quick. The 40+ ball has made a big difference!!
Anyway, I have my ‘original’ set up and that’s how it’s gonna stay!!

 

[blahness]

It's time to make retro sexy again. Retro is the new sexy. Yeah! Baby yeah!

Mark V GPS?

Sriver?

• Gozo BH suxs!
• Gozo looking at ol'skool retro soft non-tensor rubber for BH use. Push & block with occasional drive topspin.
• BH to support and create opportunity for the FH to grab the points.
• ( 反 手 创 造 机 会。正 手 抢 分 )

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Lol why not just go all the way to anti or pips, it'll be even better!

 

[JJ Ng]

Curiouser curioser Mr White Rabbit.

What would you want to recommend to me initially my good Sir?

Der Materialspezialist Spinfire purple. Out of all the colors, purple is the fastest while pink is the spinnest.

1.8mm sponge. Fast enough.

2.1mm sponge if you want it faster.

I have only tried 1.8mm and 2.1mm sponge and I like 1.8mm better for two reasons: 1) 1.8mm gives the ball a bit of a sinking feeling (which is partly why you use short pips) while 2.1mm does not and 2) with 2.1mm I keep on pushing the ball out!

I tried a lot of short pips. Der Materialspezialist Spinfire is the best in terms of it is short pips but you can play it like inverted. It is a great rubber for you to transition to pips. Then eventually if you want your pips to wobble the ball, well, find another short pips because Spinfire really does not do that. Spinfire is just very direct.

 

[Gozo Aruna]

I have made my bed and will now sleep on it.

I have just hit the BUY icon on Butterfly Flextra. Yup! The Nobbiest Noobest Noob rubber ever produced by Butterfly.

Will use it on my BH for a while and see how it goes.

Somehow I am not prepared yet for pips / anti. I am not an old-geezer yet. At least I will not admit it.

Gozo is still the perrenial Butterfly fan-boi.

Peace out and keep em pongin'

P/S: Flextra is the cheapest classic non-tensor / spring-sponge rubber in my market place. Mark V and Sriver are like USD 10.00 more expensive, so.... there is that economic factor to consider. I did not consider the Chinese side of things simply I am totally unfamiliar with tacky product, just like pips and antis. They are too alien for me.

PS/S: Meanwhile on the FH side: On my mark, Unleash H-E-L-L!

 

[PoorPingPong&PianoPlayer]

Avoid Flextra. Probably good for beginners, but no spin, no power, simply nothing.

 

[PoorPingPong&PianoPlayer]

Der Materialspezialist Spinfire purple. Out of all the colors, purple is the fastest while pink is the spinnest.

Is it your feeling or did you find it specified like that somewhere, please?

 

[blahness]

I have made my bed and will now sleep on it.

I have just hit the BUY icon on Butterfly Flextra. Yup! The Nobbiest Noobest Noob rubber ever produced by Butterfly.

Will use it on my BH for a while and see how it goes.

Somehow I am not prepared yet for pips / anti. I am not an old-geezer yet. At least I will not admit it.

Gozo is still the perrenial Butterfly fan-boi.

Peace out and keep em pongin'

P/S: Flextra is the cheapest classic non-tensor / spring-sponge rubber in my market place. Mark V and Sriver are like USD 10.00 more expensive, so.... there is that economic factor to consider. I did not consider the Chinese side of things simply I am totally unfamiliar with tacky product, just like pips and antis. They are too alien for me.

PS/S: Meanwhile on the FH side: On my mark, Unleash H-E-L-L!

Indian women team are all young and on the pips/anti diet lol, age doesn't matter at all!

 

[Gozo Aruna]

The non-tensor all round control oriented rubber ( semi-worn out Joola Zack ) is working out mighty well for my BH. Now I can unleash the full might of the FH...

 

[desertman]

Is it your feeling or did you find it specified like that somewhere, please?

Sarcasm detector broken I see

 

[PoorPingPong&PianoPlayer]

Sarcasm detector broken I see

Why? I have found many discussions on different behavior between red and black sheet of the same rubber, so I wouldn't be surprised...