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For this review, I will compare Tenergy 05 Hard (T05H) to the following rubbers I had played on my penhold ZJK ALC:

• Hurricane 3 National BS (H3N) 40degree
• Tenergy 05 (T05)
• MXS

I play spin game most of the time and step away to mid distance for two-wing looping.

Topspin

Power - T05H=H3N>T05>MXS
Spin - H3N>T05H>T05>MXS
Feel (medium impact) - T05>MXS>T05H>H3N
Feel (high impact) - T05=T05H>MXS > H3N

I expected the T05H to be faster and more spinny than T05 due to its harder sponge. It turned out as expected. Most of my topspin landed further than usual and it created a lot of trouble for my opponent to block. For spin, H3N is still the king. However, at high impact when looping at mid-distance, T05H is only slightly less spinny than H3N. The feel of the rubber improves as you hit or loop harder as you are breaking into the hard sponge.

Flat hit
Power - T05H>T05>MXS>H3N
As many of us expected, flat hitting with T05H is a joy when the ball travels at bullet speed. The consistency is also higher than tacky rubber as the angle of your racket does not need to be super precise.

Flick
Consistency - H3N>T05>T05H>MXS
I do FH flick near the net a lot. In this aspect, H3N tends to deliver a higher success rate due to the grippy topsheet. When I first flicked with T05H the ball went to the net a lot. Then I realized at low impact, the T05H topsheet doesn't grab the ball as well as the H3N. T05 is easier than T05H as a softer sponge is bouncier at low impact.

It took me a few games to adjust to T05H. To flick with T05H I had to brush less and hit more to lift the ball. Once you can flick the ball over the net, it is faster than with H3N but less spin.

Block
Consistency - MXS>T05>T05H>H3N
The difference is very marginal once you've adjusted to the rubber. But overall the ones with softer sponge (T05 and MXS) means blocking is more linear than ones with harder sponge (T05H and H3N). Again, due to the powerful harder sponge, the ball may fly all the way out with T05H. You just need to close the angle a little. The difference is quite marginal.

Serve
Spin - H3N>T05H>T05>MXS
As I said, when it comes to spin, H3N is still king. No exception here. H3N delivered the most spinny shortest serve. I took me some time to adjust to T05H. But due to its harder sponge, it was easier to keep the ball short than with T05.

Service return
H3N>T05H>T05>MXS
Again, H3N keeps the return low and short due to the grippy topsheet. T05H can still keep the ball low and short once you've put enough practice into it. In fact, T05H has one advantage over H3N - topsheet less sensitive to spin. I was surprised I kept my return nice and low when I was guessing the opponent's serve.

I have a very old penhold Primorac with black tag. I have tried various rubbers on it.

The feel of the blade is out of this world. It has very decent flex which is a dream for looper.

But the flex means my BH control is low as the ball can fly up too high. I had to put rubber with low arc on my BH to counteract that.

For FH, Chinese rubbers are way too slow for Primorac in ABS ball era. Hard tensor works the best.

I have 38 degrees 2.2mm Yinhe Jupiter II on a Nittaku Violin Carbon for FH (btw, it only comes in 2.2mm thickness). This rubber is very easy to use. If you are familiar with DHS H3, you will need almost no adjustment for Jupiter II. Jupiter II feels noticeably spinner and bouncier than H3, probably because it came already boosted. I've played with this rubber for a few weeks now and the tackiness is holding on pretty well.
One thing I've noticed is how much power and spin I can generate with this rubber on a flexible blade. Nittaku Violin Carbon is not the fastest blade, but when paired with Jupiter II, there seems to be a bottomless reserve of speed and spin you can put out (remember that I'm using the 38 degrees sponge, which is the softest version. If you use the 40 degrees version, it'll be even faster). The second note-worthy thing about Jupiter II is its great control. You can easily manipulate the trajectory, speed, and spin of your shots, more so than H3. Jupiter II is more dynamic than H3. This is great for spin generation, however, it also means the rubber is more sensitive to incoming spins. The is really the only thing I have to adjust for, during training and match play.
Overall, I think Yinhe Jupiter II is a great rubber. It's not as good as boosted H3, but I definitely prefer it over unboosted H3 and H3 Neo (btw, I like H3 a lot. H3 is my usual go-to rubber). If you are lazy like me and don't want to apply booster to your tacky rubber, I suggest you try Jupiter II. And the best part is this rubber costs less than H3.

Heyyyyy Guys! Here's our first ever unboxing video on TableTennisDaily, and what better way to start than with this the highly anticipated Butterfly Tenergy 05 Hard! We will update this post with our review very soon!

In this video I give my initial impressions of the rubbers weight, sponge hardness and more!

Just to be clear: This review is for the D40+ balls (Ding Ning's picture on the box).

These are very good balls. In my mind, the Nittaku 3-star Premium 40+ is the standard of 40+ balls. This DHS ball is a good alternative, and the ball plays consistently and has good speed. I can tell the difference between these and the Nittaku ones right away, as the Nittaku balls sounds should higher pitched when bouncing/hitting. This gives the impression that the Nittaku ball is harder than these DHS balls.

I have played with it for a few weeks and like it more now than when first trying it. The first two balls out of the box didn't feel right, somehow. Now that I am used to how a non-damaged ball plays, this is a really good ball, and though a little different in feel from the Nittaku Premium 40+ it is still excellent. Very spinny, not overly bouncy, pretty consistent, though consistency could still be improved. I am changing this review back to 4-star, as I find that too many of the new balls have issues straight out of the box. Some sound broken. When the balls are first-quality, they play wonderfully; but, too many in the box should have been caught at the QA stage.

Due to the good initial reports about the Azalea blades (Allround and Offensive) from yogi_bear and others, I decided to purchase the Offensive version and put a pair of modern offensive rubbers on it. Currently I am using GEWO Nexxus EL Pro 43 and 38 on this blade. I concede that my perception of this blade versus others is influenced by the performance of these rubbers, but the blade makes its character known at any rate.

For an introduction to the Azalea series, please consult yogi_bear's fine review of the Azalea Allround.

Let's get the appearance question out of the way right up front: This blade has some lavendar/pink detailing. It does not really look like a "women's blade" however, and if you skip this blade because of how the handle looks, I can only say that you are really missing out. The key question you should ask is, "Do I want a lightweight blade with good power and control?" If yes, then do not hesitate to try this blade.

The Azalea Offensive has replaced the Ayous second/fourth layers with Spruce, and this is very effective in giving real power to your shot once you try to put some pace on the ball. During pushes and light chops, you feel the Limba top layer, but with topspin counters and blocks you feel the Spruce engage the ball. The effect is well managed and fairly linear in feel.

There is some vibration when hitting toward the end of the blade, as expected, but the vibration is well managed. The control is not simply due to the softer Limba top layer but also to the light weight of the blade, which makes quick adjust of position and angle so easy, and makes the blade not too bouncy. The power is sufficient for mid distance, but this is not a pure power hitting blade. The sound of the blade during aggressive hitting is pretty high pitched, but not so metalic as with a carbon blade. I have a feeling that the Azalea Offensive lies between the Azalea Allround and the Infinity VPS V, sharing the light weight of the Allround but having some of the harder feel of the Infinity during aggressive play.

I am very happy with this blade and rubber setup. If you like the feel of a lightweight blade but need some power in your shots, you owe it to yourself to try this beautifully designed and constructed blade. Highly recommended!

-- Tim

Rhyzer 48 is the closest any company has come to Tenergy 05. My only complaint, which is also true for 05 is the durability. I get about 20-24 hours of hard multiball training before the topsheet dies. Considering that it is significantly cheeper than Tenergy with the same durability, it makes it a much more affordable option. If you are like me and hate the overpriced Butterfly marketing machine, switch to Rhyzer 48, you won't be disappointed.

I picked up one of these from http://www.ttequipment.co.uk. I've seen these kicking around on some Chinese sites previously and was interested, so having a local supplier seemed like too good an opportunity to miss. It's part of Yinhe's Mars range of blades, and they all look interesting if I'm honest. The key material is PLC, which looks to be a type of polyethylene woven with carbon, producing a cheaper alternative to ZLC. I think we’ll be seeing more of this kind of material from other brands, if we aren't already.

Physicals

My M202 is 5.9mm in total thickness, 86g weight, FL handle. My guess as to the composition would be:

Dyed Limba - Ayous - PLC - Ayous - PLC - Ayous - Dyed Limba

The quality of the construction is very good, although I had to sand the edges of wings down a bit because they were a little sharp. The handle is a bit on the small side - it's wide enough but a bit thin. Not as thin as some Nittaku blades, but thinner than the chunky handles you get with european blades.


In Play

During a basic topspin drive warm-up, the speed felt solidly in the middle of OFF-. It's a tick faster than a Waldner Senso Carbon, slightly slower than a Viscaria/Boll ALC/Vega Pro, similar to an Innerforce ALC or LSW.

When you start to loop and you apply more force, the speed increases quite a lot and there is a fair amount of flex available. In this sense, it reminds me of the non-linear looping experience you get with something like a BTY Mizutani Jun ZLC, but with a lower average speed across the board. A mini-MJ perhaps. Because of this, it allows a great range of variable looping strokes from slightly further away from the table without getting too hot to handle. It's not as deadly as the MJ, and it doesn't have the overall power needed if you attack from absolutely miles away.

Short game is very good. The low-gear speed is useful when considering service and receive.

The feel is pretty typical for limba - certainly not as sharp or direct as a typical Viscaria for example. It didn't feel as solid either (although not horribly hollow at all - just a little distant), and I wasn't as confident with blocking initially. The sweet spot is pretty wide, and although the feedback is somewhat vague there's still enough to let you know what's going on.

Overall

This is a great inner composite looping blade for the money. It's well made (from a sample of one, obviously), has enough speed to get the job done without being overwhelming for an average standard player like myself. It's definitely aimed at players who focus on loop attack though - I tend to play close-in these days so it feels initially a touch too flexy/non-linear for my style. Although I have had some excellent wins with it at the end of my league season, so I'm giving it some serious thought (and I’ve put in a special order with Dean at http://www.ttequipment.co.uk for an M201 – I really like the potential of this range). There's a lot to like about it (especially considering the price) - if you are looking for a cheaper, slightly tamer alternative to a BTY MJ/IF-ZLC then this should be on your list IMO.

Rubber: Butterfly Tenergy 05
Weight: 69 grams
Blade used: Timo Boll ALC & Timo Boll Spirit

What’s going on guys its Dan here from TableTennisDaily. Today we are joined by none other than the table tennis legend Michael Maze reviewing one of the most popular rubbers of all time, Tenergy 05 by Butterfly.


Intro

This is by far the most requested rubber review we have ever had, so it is finally time to find out if Tenergy 05 lives up to hype. Used by many of the top players including Timo Boll, Zhang Jike, Michael Maze and of course many many others. Last week I headed to the Denmark National training Centre to pick Michaels brain about this rubber and find out why it has become so popular and what makes it so special.

A quick bit of history on this rubber. It was released in 2008 just after the speed glue ban so it’s been around for 10 years now and features Butterfly’s famous spring sponge technology. The weight of the Butterfly Tenergy 05 when uncut is 69 grams and cut is 49 grams. In the review I used the Timo Boll ALC and Michael used his Timo Boll Spirit blade, lets get into the action.

Topspin Strokes

So first up we started out with topspin strokes as this is what Tenergy 05 is renowned for. The stand out attribute to Tenergy 05 is simply the amount of speed you can produce on the ball whilst at the same time getting tons of spin. The topsheet is very grippy and when combined with the sponge helps create fantastic topspin shots that are both extremely fast and spinny.

Michael Maze explains how he changed from the Bryce speed rubber to Tenergy. He found he could produce more spin with the Tenergy 05 in comparison to Bryce Speed. The advantage with the Butterfly Tenergy 05 is when you are out of position you can still produce a quality ball.

When topspinning with Tenergy 05 I love how I am able to still be very consistent even when playing at high speed. I find that tenergy always gives you a consistent contact that is always reliable. This gives you loads of confidence in your strokes as you never have to worry about how the rubber is going to react.

You can also remain very relaxed as the rubber has a lot of propulsion on its own, without always having to go for full power to create high amounts of speed. When you do go hard at a ball the consistency doesn’t change as much as other rubbers I have reviewed in the past.


Spin

Here we are both playing topspins against backspin and this is an area where the rubber really comes into its own. You can really feel the rubber bite into the ball against backspin producing a lot of spin, making open ups very easy. Tenergy 05’s ability to grip the ball is superb and allows you to produce a tremendous amount of spin.

Maze mentioned how you can get a lot of spin on the first ball, I felt I could follow up very strong with the 5th and 7th ball with Tenergy, it keeps your opponent under pressure throughout. The crisp quality during contact is what gives you the confidence in your strokes.

Michael Maze pulled off crazy chop blocks, which firstly how good his touch is, but secondly how well Tenergy grips the ball producing spin so well.


Downside to Tenergy 05

Okay guys talking of all this goodness such as spin, control and speed, there is a downside to Tenergy 05. That is that it is simply not for everyone, you need to have sufficient technique due how sensitive and responsive the rubber is. This works perfectly for competent players, but will be hard to control for players who don’t have sufficient technique.

This rubber has a medium to hard sponge and also a medium to high throw and due to its intense spin capabilities can tricky to handle for beginners and intermediate players who don’t have the skill yet to handle such a beast.

This is an advanced rubber that is perfect for attacking players with solid technique who can control the ball at high speeds. Here are some examples where I struggle with this rubber on passive shots such as the block.

A slower, softer, less responsive rubber would enable me to do the basic shots slightly easier, but less effectively as the speed and spin would be reduced.

Of course don’t get me wrong, Tenergy 05 is a fantastic rubber for blocking as well if you have experience and ability to handle it. For example Michael has no problems sending me all over the table haha!


Flicks and short game

Michael explains how its great for the short game with serves and flicks, the rubber grips the ball very well in this department. When it comes to serving with Tenergy 05 it’s a very similar story to how the rubber performs in the top spinning department whereby you can produce tons of spin and it is only rivaled by tacky Chinese rubbers like the hurricane 3. However as it is a very fast rubber if you do not have the timing down, then the ball can drift long during attempted short serves.


Counter topspins

The Butterfly Tenergy 05 is superb for counter topspins. When timed well counters with the rubber are usually outright winners. Again it does require sufficient technique to control these counter topspins as the rubber is very sensitive to spin. The fantastic advantage Tenergy 05 gives is even when using little effort, counter topspins are very fast and explosive.


Conclusion:

Thanks to Michael Maze for hanging out with me to review the ever so popular Tenergy 05. It was an incredible experience playing Michael, his play really is extraordinary and everything you would expect and more. Thanks also to Butterfly for providing the equipment so we could test it out

Tenergy 05 is a tried and tested rubber and after 10 years on the market is still one of, if not the most used rubber in the modern game. It is the benchmark for modern era rubbers to which every new rubber created is automatically compared to. After you try Tenergy 05 it is easy to see why. The rubber has an almost perfect balance between spin, speed and control for aggressive attacking players.

Next it’s time to address the main complaint the table tennis community have about this rubber, and that is the price. Tenergy 05 has higher price tag than most rubbers, but even with this price tag people still choose Tenergy 05 because you just don’t get the same combined characteristics with other rubbers. Even with this drawback however like any premium product, you pay for what you get.

Of course as mentioned previously in the review, you have to be at a good level to use Tenergy 05 optimally.

The reason for this is if you use it too early in your development than you may start playing lazy and inefficient shots where you only use your arm because the rubber is so fast and doing a lot of the work for you. This can make developing players forget that using your legs and body too is extremely important during topsin strokes.

Also due to the rubbers high sensitivity to spin you also need to have good ball control to be able to handle this rubber.

Think of it like this, you wouldn’t want to learn how to drive in a Ferrari. If you are in that development stage then a slower less responsive rubber would probably suit you better.

All around guys I absolutely love this rubber it really deserves all of the hype and praise it gets online and in the table tennis community in general.

My friend bought the tenergy 05 hard and brand it into training the other day so I got to try it. My review is not completely valid yet until I try the rubber a bit more. I have used Tenergy 05 many times and this being the harder version is noticeable. It is different to Tenergy 05 in that the feel is more flat yet with a lot of spin.

It felt good with my forehand on playing hard shots. The backhand I thought it was to hard for my topspin on the backhand. This rubber strangely does require a lot of effort even though its fast. I think with Tenergy 05 it felt easier to produce fast, spin shots. It reminds me of the way you have to use more effort with Hurricane, this is how it felt when playing with the hard.

Anyways, I have only used it once, I will edit this review after using it a few more times.

I like the way the perfect ones play. I go through only 10 new DHS D40+ every six months. However, more and more of them have defects from the factory. If you hold the ball up to a bright light, you will see dark spots on the defective balls where part of the the plastic wall is thicker, about 1.5mm in size. If DHS would not sell it's factory seconds, and only sell good 1st quality I would rate these a 5 as the best plastic ball.

read somebody else describe it as a hybrid of a Chinese and a jap/Euro rubber(thats why it is known as alternative for tenergy), and I agree. It's the best really fast rubber I've used for service. It's easy to keep the ball low, short, and spinny. Short game is really good. Once you start picking up the racket speed though, the sponge starts to compress and the speed is explosive. Here, the control isnt as good so you'll need to be really precise with your strokes. Loops are really fast, low and have heavy spin. Even against moderate backspin, I had to close my racket angle almost as if I was looping a dead ball. My 3rd ball attacks were insanely fast, but again, I felt like i needed to be very precise or I'd miss long. Counterlooping was good but little tricky for me in the beginning , unless I backed off from the table considerably. Smashing, hitting and blocking were also quite good. I recommend this to highly skilled and very agressive players, however if you like high, slow opening topspins, i think u wont like the rubber that much

Best 5 plywood have always been with limba-limba-ayou-limba-limba (Waldner senso V1/V2, Joola K5, Bty primorac, Bty Korbel, Stratus power....), but Stiga comes here with an amazing variation : Limba-spruce-ayous-spruce-limba The thickness is around 6mm, like most 5ply allwood blades. The feeling is amazing on this blade, and the blade is so well balanced (mine is 82gr) even with heavy rubbers. The speed is faster than Korbel or Primorac and the sweet spot has been greatly improved compared to those.....the addition of a composite layer is not needed anymore (many primorac/korbel users have moved to Innerforces blades, same composition + composite material). Medium throw, awesome flex and dwell time thanks to allwood composition, amazing touch and balance. Provides far enough power for any kind of attacking playstyle and precise.it has No weakness. Somebody wrote it lacks power mid distance and i had to laugh. With good technique this blade will do what u want. So much power in the fast game and so much control in the short game. And it doesn't lack power mid distance. Choose the right rubber and u will love this blade. Everybody should try it.

I’ve had a 20minute session with the T05 hard. It was mounted on a TBS ALC with T05 hard black (T05H) and T05R (regular?) so provided an easy comparison.
I am not great at explaining the idiosyncrasies so I’ll leave that to the expert reviewers.

Overall T05 hard has a high throw with a similar feel to H8, excellent at blocking and good on serve receive.

Those deep high topspin loops easier to generate with T05H than the more direct loops of the T05R.
When blocking, I didn’t have to be as precise in bat angle to keep ball on the table as with T05. This is great for me as blocking tends be a rush job during matches.
Speed. One point to consider, out of the box it feels slower, however, a big cause is that it has a much higher throw than the regular T05. This means that the ball takes a longer time before it bounces on the other side. Close the bat for a more direct shot and the difference is not that great.
Weight. It is said to be heavier than T05, however the bat I used for testing, TB AL with To5/T05 hard, felt about the same weight as my regular bat which weighs 189g.
One of my big problems in matches is trying to control incoming pendulum back/sidepin serves deep to my bh. I sometimes resort to push or chop the return. With the T05 regular I had much greater difficulty controlling the ball, win for T05H. Controlling short balls Timo-style is much easier than with T05R, due no doubt to the easier control of the rubber’s ‘bounciness’.
Personally, I can see the reasons that some top pros are reluctant to switch to T05H. It does require a slightly different technique to T05R. T05H is slower but gripper with less bounce.

Butterfly is on to a winner here. The playing characteristics are similar other hard sponge rubbers but different enough to be judged as unique.

My order has been placed for T05 hard. I don’t think I’ll be using Hurricane for now………that is…. until.

Review of blades is a subjective matter. I can compare barwell fleet to acoustic, both equipped with tibhar mx-s (backhand) and mx-p (forehand), 2mm. Barwell is noticeabley better in blocking, also better touch at the net - lower gear. Acoustic is too springy with the mx-p. It's harder to keep the ball short at the net with the acoustic and on smashes it's got a lot of catapult. Barwell fleet has a lower gear at the net and less max speed with the mx-p on smashes, but it is easier to generate mid range power. On backhand, mx-s with the acoustic has great spin, but power is very low and on flat hitting it's really dead. With barwell fleet there's less spin, but it's easier to generate power, easier to lift, easier to block. I was probably heading to serious elbow problems with the acoustic, barwell fleet makes the game easier, it's almost criminal how easy and controllable it is. I thought acoustic was great, but barwell fleet gives me a better range of shots, blocking is superb. I hear people complain about blocking with BF - forgive them father for they do not know what they say. My game went up a notch instantaneously after switching from acoustic to BF. Better control, better range of speed, easier to generate power, great stability, blocking. It's a masterpiece.

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I have tried this blade (new design 2018: https://www.victas.com/en_gb/products/blade/offensive-shake/fire-fall/fire-fall-vc) with other players using different pimple in rubbers (we tried also the AC version to make a comparision): Joola Rhyzer Pro 50 2.0mm, Donic Z1 Turbo 2.1mm, Xiom Omega 7 Asia 2.0mm and Max, Xiom Omega 7 Tour 2.0mm, Rasanter R50 2.0mm. As pimples out rubbers only Andro Blowfish Plus 1.8mm and Victas VO>103 1.6mm because they are the best rubbers (for me) for both aggressive and allround style of playing. For short pimple players the Firefall VC is the best blade specially with Victas VO>103: it's also suited for strong topspin and countertopspin players at the table. On drives and blocks with the short pimple the ball sink very low on the table and the trajectory is very unpleasant for the opponent. You can do what you want: short blocks, fast blocks, side blocks, passive blocks, soft topspin and you will always have a very good control. With the Blowfish you have a best disturbing effect but lower control.The throw angle of the blade is medium, the power and control are outstanding and also the amount of spin. Also the speed is very good and it’s for that we used specially rubbers with thickness 2.0mm (except one Max), they are fast enough. Each rubbers have different features, but all of them give a big amount of spin. On serves the spin is wonderful, you keep the ball low and with a huge amount of spin. Also in short shots like return of serves or short-short play in backspin the blade is fantastic. Depend on your style you can find the rubber who fits perfectly for you. For smashes and soft opening topspins, for example, the best combination is with Z1 Turbo and R50; for strong forward topspins over the table is with Omega 7 Tour because has the strongest catapult and grip; ecc. for the other rubbers. The blade is stiff but you have evenly a very good touch feeling.

The Firefall AC is better for rallies and spin oriented players. This blade is nearly stiff and has a very good touch feeling (less stiff than VC blade). The speed and power are similar with the VC blade, it has a higher throw angle, so the short pimples have a little higher trajectory than VC but always low. Because its throw, this blade is better for players who like to play continuous topspins and countertopspins. The serves are wonderful too with this blade. One of the best rubber to use with this blade is the Xiom Omega VII Asia, but also the others fit perfectly.

At the end of the tests all the players agreed that the Firefall VC is better for short pimples players: however some spin oriented player liked more the VC than AC, but we know the tastes are subjective. I personally love the VC, but I play very good also with the AC and the same thing is for the other players. I can highly recommend these blades, the workmanship is very good and the features are at the top. They are really a wonderful blades, bye everybody!!

i have used this rubber for three months.i feel what makes this rubber amazing is the amount of control it provides with a good amount of speed and spin.the only disadvantage of this rubber is it is little bit heavy(i dont really have a problem with that).if u feel that the mxp is quite fast and uncontrollable and fxp and fxs quite slow then this rubber will be a great choice for you.EL-P has a great feel when playing. It's not bouncy, it's got great control, and creates tremendous amount of spin. when looping or driving it gives you a distinct "chewy," for lack of a better term, feel. You can really feel the rubber grab the ball and dig into the sponge then catapulting it towards your opponent. Any all round attacker would love this rubber. However if you want more power and speed, I'd go for MX-P as EL-P lacks a little bit in that department. In terms of durability, the top sheet last a long time but the sponge doesn't.

tried a few others aruna off .. gewo force arc and andro treiber q and victas firefall vc [this was a very fast bade ] prob faster the the fight , less control as main blade .... joola TPE fight is my one now ...... all the others were slower and had more control in slow play pushing and spin ups ...but against advanced players l play close to the table short fast swings ,, this blade is surprisingly better when it gets tough ,, its precise in counter hits , not mussy feel one can set the blade angle well , pushing is the the most difficult shot .... fast shots are good ,,,its rated off+ one of the fastest blades you can buy ,,, hope to stay with this one for some time ... ...note its expensive but top materials are used ...