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The Stiga Allround Classic is a blade with much control and feeling. It is not too fast. I think it's a very good blade for players starting playing tabletennis.
In my club beginners usually get this blade, when they start playing tabletennis. They all like the blade and are very satisfied with the Stiga Classic allround. When the players get better, we usually change the rubbers (faster ones). Advanced players can also use the Stiga Classic Allround, if they prefer control in their game.

Sadly like many of the other new balls the quality is far from okay, so many breaks just in one practice. I like the design but I'm disappointed with the durability and I also find the the ball surprisingly slow.

Best shoe I've ever used. All round comfort, durability and grip is fantastic. Good as, if not better, then my old butterfly energy force shoes and much cheaper. Available for £70 in the Uk From Bribar

I'm a relatively new player to the sport, having played a bit in my teens and then given the game a nice 15-ish year hiatus. Recently getting back in the sport, I quickly got past the premade bat level (played for a bit with a Stiga Fury which felt good and fast, if a bit inconsistent.)

After reviewing my options, and checking some other forums and threads, the general consensus was that a "middle of the road" blade will help teach good control, touch and stroke mechanics. To that end, I bought a Butterfly Timo Boll All+, well rated and reasonably priced, and paired it with the classical Butterfly Sriver L in 1.7mm for both forehand and backhand. I paid a bit extra for the professional makeup after sweating over how to glue rubbers and watching a few youtube videos.

When I first started playing with it the bat felt heavy compared to my premade bat and other bats I'd tried.. Part of this was due to different balance in the blade, this blade is a bit more top heavy. The other part was because... well, it's heavier.
The second thing was the feedback. I could almost directly "feel" if I made a good shot, and making good shots felt much better. I can completely see what most experienced players meant when they talked about "feedback".
The third part was the increased control. It felt like I could really put the ball wherever I wanted, unless I messed my shot up.
And the fourth part was the speed... it felt slower.

Don't get me wrong, I can still generate speed, but this blade and combination doesn't give me anything for free, I really do have to ~generate~ that speed.

My block and backhand percentage, which was sort of iffy before, started steadily rising (and it's still rising.). 2 months in, backhands do not feel so much like a gamble any more. My forehand loops, especially against backspin, are much more consistent. (We have a really good defensive player where I play.) My serves are now mediocre, up from "I'll just put the ball into play". I'm still working on getting them short enough without popping them up too much. The blade performs solidly throughout everything I try with it. I feel like it has a good amount of dwell time. The only thing that I seem to struggle with is defensive cutting/chopping - I'm still a bit inconsistent here, probably moreso because it's not a shot I practice a lot rather than the blade being unable to produce it. That said, this setup isn't very tacky. I'd say middle of the road.

In summary, I would rate this blade and rubber combo a solid performer, with a few gears that you can work through. And in another 2 months or so I'll probably "graduate" to some slightly faster rubbers, like Yasaka V - I expect the blade to perform just as consistently. It won't generate hurricane loops or tornado spins, but it'll more or less force you to develop good touch, good technique and good stroke mechanics. I would recommend it to anyone starting out in the sport with serious intent, or someone who's a novice and wants to work on their game.

Tried it on Tibar IV-S blade,it was ok for that price.Pretty good catapult effect and speed,great spin,and very controlable.It is good for any kind of player,from off to def

Great blade for precision play. Loops, smashes and drives are good and blocking is great. I play it with JOOLA Maxxx 500 on both sides. Very good. I can only recommend it to advanced players.


Joola MAXXX 500 was too hard for this blade and I switched to Bluefire JP1 and M3, then changed the M3 to Tibhar MX-P. Then changed to JP01 and MX-P.
This is a modern type loopng blade, quite stiff and the koto outer wood ply is a bit hard for me, but I can get used to it. This blade needs fast and short moves to generate agressive and fast loops, and the loops become quite effective. Old style big arm swing loops are possible too but this blade does not like that, there isn't that much dwell time for that type of stroke. If you love the tempo and the characteristics but want a little softer touch try Tibhar RedCypress.

My problem with this blade was, that I bought in with flared handle. The neck of the handle was very narrow so the blade vibrated much, annoyingly. I also tried the blade with straight handle with T05 on both sides and the vibration was gone mostly, only a nice faint of woody vibration was present. As far as I know and I experienced, the Tenergy rubbers absorb many vibrations, and numben the blade. Actually I don't teally like this, but in this particular case it was a good and a sad thing, this blade only feels good with Tenergy or a similar resonation swelling rubber.

My second problem was weight distribution. T05 in max thickness has an average weight of 0,24g/sq mm. Both Bluefire JP01 and Tibhar MX-P has the same average weight. So besides the resonation there should not be any disturbing in the weight distribution of the blade. The blade was 85,7g and the cut rubbers were around 47g each. When glued togerther the blade had the weight center near my index finger, so nearly at the top of the handle. The blade was a bit more than 190g assembled. Heavy blades are good when they are a bit head heavy, to help the player utilise the weight of the blade in a swing. Well this blade was nearly centered so it would not rotate with my wrist, making backhand swings requre an effort and time consuming. Latter nearly resulted in an injury, when you want to snap and twist your wrist to get a fast counterloop and the blade won't turn with your hand, and you twist your hand in unusual and painful way.

So buy it with Tenergy and straight handle. A very nice OFF blade, with woody feel.

This blade from butterfly is a bullet hitter if you have a strong wrist. First of all the packaging is the usual blue paper box from butterfly. The handle on my model is straight, quite small in diameter, so girls can have a good grip on it too.

Without rubbers the resonation of the blade is quite high, but fine, no harsh vibrations. Sound is quite pitched, so it is definetly an OFF+ blade.
Testing rubbers were chosen to be Bluefire M2 on both sides, to compensate for the low throw of the blade, but I also tried it with T80.

Because of the inner fibre Tamca5000 composite layer, this blade is a speed hitter when hitting directly. The blade is quite stiff and hard, but retains a nice woody feel. Looping is nice, controllable, because the composite layer is on the core veener and does not interfere much with the brush. So I may say, that this blade is fast when hitting (OFF+), but slower when looping (OFF).

Hits and counterhits are very direct and kind of flat, but nicely controlled without effort. Actually I found it hard to hit the ball long, but I only play soft OFF/OFF- blades usually.
Looping is great, but the stiffness bothers me a bit, I like spin elastic blades. The arc of the ball is agressive, but quite high to give you safety. Counterlooping is very consistent, you have more than enough power to counter any attack even from the dressing room.
Dropshots are a bit hard, because the blade is fast and you must develope a fine touch for this stroke or your shots will fly away.

Pair this blade with higher throw rubbers to acieve a nice setup.
I see this blade as a counterhit-smash blade, whith a bit of a fine touch to loop. So you can do opening loops, then wipe your opponent from the table with powerful smashes. Mostly for fact paced women or recreational bullet hitter/bragger type of play.

Chinese rubber from Three Sword comes in a nice packaging. Rubber has a tipical chinese smell/odour of vulcanised rubber.
Sponge is similar to open pored, but the bigger bubbles are not so frequent and uniform. So it is like the Bluefire M series sponge with less bubbles, colour is faint red. Rubber surface is slightly tacky just like Tenergy, not like Bluefire JP series.

Just tested it for the third time. I found it very slow, so I boosted it with oil. The rubber was light, uncut (166x171) black was 56g and the red was 60g. I boosted it with oil to give it more speed, boosted the sponge (4 layers) and the rubber sheet (2 layers) too.

In several techniques I find this rubber similar to ESN type rubbers, that have great spin and control: dropshot, loop, counterhit, counterloop, chops. Opening loops are a bit wierd, often too low, when trying to lift heavy underspin balls. Overall attacking performance is quite reliable, counterattacking is very easy.

Handling weakly chopped balls and spinless balls is a bit harder than ESN rubbers, this rubber does not tolerate mistakes at these shots: drive, opening loop, service recieve. I found out, that in the lower range of speed, the incoming balls tend to climb the rubber if weak force is applied to get the ball back. In the same situation, when more force is applied and the touch is not soft, the hit becomes direct and consistent.

The pore size is a bit uneven as said before, this leads to a non-linear bite effect, when looping or hitting. Similar to Bluefire M series, but less pronounced.

If we look at the price tag it is a cheap rubber. Compared to entry level or hobby rubbers from different manufacturers, this rubber is far-far better. Boosted rubber is even comparable with high-end rubbers. I did not haves to adjust much on my game, because this rubber works.
Since it is no ITTF rubber, I would recommend it for training purposes. It can be considered an alternative to Tenergy 64 when boosted. I train with this rubber, and I will go to camp with this rubber to hit the hell out of it in multiball or 1 on 1 excerscises.

Some pictures:
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I have a tried a lot of plastic balls in competition and found the Stag to be the most reliable and best out of all the plastic balls. However there are still a lot of issues for example when you top edge the ball, the ball just shatters. If I was to choose a plastic ball to practice with I would choose the Seamless balls to practice with over the seamless ones.

Practiced with these balls and they made me a bit disappointed. Way to many broke in just one practice and many was a bit egg formed. Some where of course alright but variation of quality between the balls where to big for its price.

Serve: serves are spinnies, but sometimes hard to control.
Flicks: very easy to flick. You can choose between short spinny and long fast flicks. It's one of the best parts of the rubber.
Push: not the best, sometimes the ball fly off the table.
Block: incredible simple.
Drive: good, easy to counter the opponent's fast loops.
Loop: with open racket angle you can loop the heaviest backspins with forehand. The backhand loop is good and easy to place, but sometimes I feel a lack of power.
Chop: it's absolutely not a chopping rubber.
Now it's my backhand rubber and I'm satiesfied. Mine is 2.0. I can recommand it for players, who have a more active forehand and doesn't like the feel of the Tenergy. Vega Pro have a softer feel and I think a lot more control. It's subjective but I like it. My only problem is, that it hasn't the great power of Tenergy. The Xiom is a very good and reliable company. There is any idea for a rubber like Vega Pro, only morer powerful?

I have tested this rubber on multiple blades,and the results from each blade gives this rubber good impressions.

This rubber does everything well,from chopping,to blocking,to hitting and to looping!

It is supposed to be more of a defensive rubber,but at 1.5mm sponge,consider it a all-off rubber.

Also,this rubber has a good disruptive effect.(Better than the Dr. N Allround Plus).this gives attacking an added advantage.

I definitely assure you that you won't go wrong with this rubber if you are a pimpled player.

Give it a try,it might make you become a short pimple player(it nearly made me )

I tested this rubber side by side with the Dr. Neubauer Leopard(sp). This was in 1.00 mm sponge
I tested it over a period of 3 months.

Speed,as you can imagine, wasn't what this rubber is after,but it did provide sufficient enough speed to bring the ball to the table from a distance.

Control...I loved it.very easy to control.

Spin reversal-in this aspect,I think it is lacking.the sp did a better job than this rubber.

Attacking capabilities-there is a chance,as long as your blade angle is wide open.

I am impressed witth the sponge durability.not 1 trace of tearing after swithing it frm blade to blade.

All in all,its a good blocking rubber.maybe not worth the price though.

My first review

Its the second set of MX-P I bought. Like many people I'm used to play with Tenergy both side, and boosted Tenergies are for me the "benchmarks" of today's rubbers.

Opening :
Nothing special about the packaging, packed like most of todays rubbers (Tenergy, Calibras...), no additional protective sheet is provided by Tibhar like it is with the Nimbus rubbers for example.
The Sponge is red/Orange, with very big bubbles (like bluefire M1 turbo sponge).
The topsheets are glossy. The rubbers are heavy (73gr uncut, 50gr cut to usual butterfly shape).
Topsheet and sponge are very flexible and elastics, no tack. The overall combination looks medium/hard, a touch harder than T05.

The rubbers were mainly tested on my Butterfly Kong Linghui Special blade (special made blade), pictures here :
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http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/14/1427724196-kls2.jpg
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Rubbers have been tested also on all the blades you see below, feel free to ask anything about the potential combination you consider :


No booster or any kind of tunning was used

Warm Up :

You will immediately feel a huge catapult effect with the mx-p, the rubber feels very linear, the innerpower of the rubber feels rather accessible.
Very good feeling, solid feel, not as hard as you would expect i think, meaning that the dwell time is particulary good with mx-p.

Forehand topspin :
It is my best stroke, my principal source of points during competitive matches.
You will immediately notice the very high throw angle of the rubber and that the catapult on topspins is huge. Rubber is linear and predictable despite huge catapult effect.
Good touch provided by the racket permit to easy adjust your stroke.
The spin and speed are generated quite easy. The rubber can be used close to table as well as mid-distance.
Close your racket for countertopsins, nearly "as much as you can".
MX-P really shines against backspin balls, making a strong a fast topspin agaisnt backspin balls is realy easy, just as easy as making a classic openning loop with lot of spin but slow.
Just go for the power topspin on backspin balls.


Backand topspins :
Backhand topspin is not my best stroke.
With MX-P I was able to make strong and fast topspins against backspin balls. It is one of the very few rubber permitting me to do this.
Most of my errors were because I didn't close enough my racket, the result is that the MX-P is realy good for topsins over the table, even on backspin balls.
The rubber won't make you the new FZD or ZJK with awesome backhand topsin over the table, but it will make you better on that very popular stroke.

Blocks :
Once you get adjusted to the high throw, you will love the MX-P for any kind of blocks.
The rubber doesn't forgive technical errors like other rubbers can (lets say for example ; T80 and Calibra Tour M, those rubbers are less sensitive to incomming spin than MX-P).

Serves :
So far, one of the best rubber I ever used for serves. The hard topsheet has awesome grip. You will love the rubber when it come to serves.

Serves returns :
Just like with blocks, the rubber doesn't forgive technical errors as much as other rubbers can.
The rubber is sensitive to incomming spin, you will "break" the incomming spin easy if the serve is long, with a FH or BH strong topspin, or even with a BH over the table topspin.
But you will need strong technic to keep your returns low and short or to realize regular flicks.
The rubber will remind you T05, requires a good technic and anticipation on passive serves returns.

Other things and some comments :

I didn't tried the rubber on a all wood blade, but the rubber felt amazing on IF AL which is not far from a 5 ply all wood blade, with limba outer and very good flex (picture here http://image.noelshack.com/fichiers/2015/14/1427724201-ifal1.jpg ).
Tenergies felt, to me, really akward and inert on IF AL, like losing their "spring sponge" on flexible blades, it is not the case with MX-P and the rubber remains fast and "springy" even on flexible blades.
The rubbers are really heavy, you might really dislike it even if you enjoy the rubber.
This is my second pair of MX-P's. Durability is top end. Since I can't stand playing with an "almost not new" rubber, MX-P can last me 6 weeks (to compare, a T80 last me about 3-4 weeks). The lose of speed and spin is very linear and pretty slow, you will enjoy the durability of MX-P.


I hope you enjoyed this review, I'll try to answer your questions if you have any.

I use this glue to stick my rubbers to my blade. It sticks the rubbers to the blade very well and I have not found a problem. I have also been told it sticks to varnished blades well to.

This is a great table, it has excellent bounce and is of the highest quality I've ever seen in a table. It also looks great and is used in many major competitions and leagues around the world.

One thing I did notice was how well it folds away. It folds up very well and can be kept in a small area when not in use.

I used this ball during a tournament and 3 broke. This upset my game as you keep thinking is the ball broke or is it going to crack whilst hitting the ball because their not durable. One thing I did like when they were okay was rallying. They seemed to have a very consistent bounce and I felt the rallies were longer which is good for spectators. However just the consistency of the ball needs to be improved.

I have used these trainers for a year now and they still are in good condition. The grip has remained consistent throughout. I like that they are light so I can move around easy.

I loved the Tenergy 64 on my backhand because it helped my style of play. From a backspin ball it produced enough spin to make it hard for the opponent to counter which then led to me being in control of the table. This rubber has more spin than the Tenergy 05 as it is a little bit softer which gives more dwell time an control. When countering it gives you great feeling when countering close to the table which helps me get my forehand in play.

The Tenergy series in general allows you to feel confident with all your shots. I would highly recommend this rubber for anyone who has a good controlled, steady backhand which allows them to get their strong forehand in.

The andro power grip is not as hard as Tenergy which gives you good feeling when blocking and also topspinning from a backspin ball. I wouldn't recommend this rubber for elite players who play consistently everyday because it does not last long enough. However if your local league player you will get great feedback from this rubber and will help your game due to it's great control.