Analyze my style :)

[ttmonster]

Hurricane 8 mid soft

Now with those videos if possible can you suggest me a forehand rubber that will go with my playstlyle?

 

[RajaLoopah]

Here is a full match taken yesterday.

 

[ttmonster]

No offense intended Rajah, why did you post this video ? Which portion of the game do you want us to see ? I tried to see it but could not find anything particularly special, you have played much better against much better opponents ...

 

[RajaLoopah]

No offense intended Rajah, why did you post this video ? Which portion of the game do you want us to see ? I tried to see it but could not find anything particularly special, you have played much better against much better opponents ...

Nah just want to post a video of me playing to the extent of my endurance haha

 

[ttmonster]

Okay ... ya but a lot of issues creep in our game when we are tired , and also the level different between you and your opponent does not help in analyzing your style

Nah just want to post a video of me playing to the extent of my endurance haha

 

[NextLevel]

Since you have a coach, no point commenting but you need to focus more on topspin vs block or topspin. Your stroke is backspin oriented and you often try to drive the topspin Ball or swipe it.

Learn to start by trusting your spin. It gives you options.

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

You also have to choose your angles better. From the last two videos, this one:

You chose to film from the Righty BH side and your opponent is right handed so much of the time we see his back but not you.

In the next video:

You film from the lefty BH side and in two of the three games you are right in front of the camera so we can't see most of the action.

If you want to film and learn, figure out where to place the camera so you can see as much of the action as possible.

Like, in the first video, if you had filmed from the righty FH side, we would have been able to see much more of the action.

In the second video if you had filmed from the righty BH side, we would have seen more of the action in 2 of the 3 games.

 

[RajaLoopah]

Haha sorry for the angle I am using my phone. And I am playing with my coach. I am also the one teaching my coach lol

 

[RajaLoopah]

Since you have a coach, no point commenting but you need to focus more on topspin vs block or topspin. Your stroke is backspin oriented and you often try to drive the topspin Ball or swipe it.

Learn to start by trusting your spin. It gives you options.

I am really having a hard time in this 38 degree Globe National the rubber bottoms out a lot. Lol

 

[NextLevel]

Chinese rubber without some tensioning or boosting is hard to use if you play back from the table. If you want to use Chinese, H3Neo, Big Dipper or Hurricane 8. If you want Euro similar to Chinese, Omega V Asia or MX-S.

Me, I like the Baracuda, Hexer and Genius family. They are relatively cheap and have great ball arc (only a bit lower than Tenergy 05) but with excellent control.

I know you can't try a lot of stuff but just find something good and stick with it. But you have two recommendations now: Hurricane 8 and Andro Hexer.

 

[NextLevel]

I am really having a hard time in this 38 degree Globe National the rubber bottoms out a lot. Lol

The rubber is not bottoming out. You are not spinning with it. You have a backspin loop but your topspin loop is more of a hit or swipe and that doesn't work with Chinese rubber. You need a proper stroke all the time.

 

[RajaLoopah]

The rubber is not bottoming out. You are not spinning with it. You have a backspin loop but your topspin loop is more of a hit or swipe and that doesn't work with Chinese rubber. You need a proper stroke all the time.

Yeah thanks noted
and I am still taking the ball late lol damn Mizutani hahaha

 

[ttmonster]

There are multiple reasons, not just taking the ball late. It does not help to have a very big forehand swing when you want to topspin against topspin, especially at our level . Once you get better and your anticipation and footwork can support it you can try doing that.
Infact, even with chinese rubbers , its a misconception that you have to have a huge forehand swing all the time. As long as youare using your core and timing the ball , you will still be able to impart power even with a chinese rubber. So my advise would be to emulate somebody like say Feng Tianwei when you try to spin a topspin ball back... don't focus on the swing from the shoulder but focuse on the hip rotation and the timing infront of the body, again I mean 2 o clock with your waist rotated , not literally in front of the body

What I have seen help me do this better is if you practice spining the ball with the forearm during the warm up. After you warm up with a flat stroke on your forehand, try to just spinning the ball using only your forearm back and forth while your partner also does the same. Its like practicing topsin counters where the focus is only on spin , with the slight mandatory waist rotation and the forearm snap , without using any shoulder power ... see if it helps ...

Yeah thanks noted
and I am still taking the ball late lol damn Mizutani hahaha

 

[RajaLoopah]

There are multiple reasons, not just taking the ball late. It does not help to have a very big forehand swing when you want to topspin against topspin, especially at our level . Once you get better and your anticipation and footwork can support it you can try doing that.
Infact, even with chinese rubbers , its a misconception that you have to have a huge forehand swing all the time. As long as youare using your core and timing the ball , you will still be able to impart power even with a chinese rubber. So my advise would be to emulate somebody like say Feng Tianwei when you try to spin a topspin ball back... don't focus on the swing from the shoulder but focuse on the hip rotation and the timing infront of the body, again I mean 2 o clock with your waist rotated , not literally in front of the body

What I have seen help me do this better is if you practice spining the ball with the forearm during the warm up. After you warm up with a flat stroke on your forehand, try to just spinning the ball using only your forearm back and forth while your partner also does the same. Its like practicing topsin counters where the focus is only on spin , with the slight mandatory waist rotation and the forearm snap , without using any shoulder power ... see if it helps ...

Yes thank you guys
a while ago I played with my rubbers a little and the Globe Nat version does not grab the poly ball well. damn that explains a lot why I have trouble in producing spin thus making the ball more of like a hit.

 

[ttmonster]

Thats why I told you earlier to give Hurricane 8 Mid soft a try. After the poly ball change, I switched from T05 to H8 , and it helped a lot.

Yes thank you guys
a while ago I played with my rubbers a little and the Globe Nat version does not grab the poly ball well. damn that explains a lot why I have trouble in producing spin thus making the ball more of like a hit.

 

[RajaLoopah]

Thats why I told you earlier to give Hurricane 8 Mid soft a try. After the poly ball change, I switched from T05 to H8 , and it helped a lot.

I am in a dilemma between h8 or Vega CN hahahaha

 

[NextLevel]

There are multiple reasons, not just taking the ball late. It does not help to have a very big forehand swing when you want to topspin against topspin, especially at our level . Once you get better and your anticipation and footwork can support it you can try doing that.
Infact, even with chinese rubbers , its a misconception that you have to have a huge forehand swing all the time. As long as youare using your core and timing the ball , you will still be able to impart power even with a chinese rubber. So my advise would be to emulate somebody like say Feng Tianwei when you try to spin a topspin ball back... don't focus on the swing from the shoulder but focuse on the hip rotation and the timing infront of the body, again I mean 2 o clock with your waist rotated , not literally in front of the body

What I have seen help me do this better is if you practice spining the ball with the forearm during the warm up. After you warm up with a flat stroke on your forehand, try to just spinning the ball using only your forearm back and forth while your partner also does the same. Its like practicing topsin counters where the focus is only on spin , with the slight mandatory waist rotation and the forearm snap , without using any shoulder power ... see if it helps ...

IT's not a misconception - Hurricane 8 is not your usual...

Half kidding. You are 100% right - using your core and timing the ball always works, no matter the rubber. In fact, I have been making some revisions to my stroke but they fully kicked in after seeing Brett on the TTEdge app. I have started countering topspin extremely well, Now to see how long it takes me to win matches that were close before... The problem though is that Euro rubber supports suboptimal brushing technique better and allows for hitting. That's why Chinese rubbers are said to require full strokes.

What I meant for Rajahlooper is that he needs to loop with the rubber. He needs to brush with the rubber. He needs to learn to spin against spin. Hitting the ball with a tacky rubber with hard or semi-hard sponge does not release the ball the way Tenergy 05 does, for example. It is good looping discipline and if he gets it, his stroke will improve a lot even if he goes back to Euro Rubber. For me, I find Hexer to be a good best of both worlds rubber for my technique.

 

[NextLevel]

I am in a dilemma between h8 or Vega CN hahahaha

Why a dilemma? Haven't you seen ttmonster play? USually, when someone recommends you something, look at their play and see if it makes sense. Who recommended Vega CN and what do you think it will do for you?

 

[RajaLoopah]

Why a dilemma? Haven't you seen ttmonster play? USually, when someone recommends you something, look at their play and see if it makes sense. Who recommended Vega CN and what do you think it will do for you?

It was recommended by my coach in Manila hehe he had traning in china. He was using globe national then but when the poly era began the players who usually can't beat him is crushing him. He switched to Vega China and was dominating again in their club. His nickname is "Paul swing" his name is Paul and ful swings haha.

 

[NextLevel]

Ah, makes sense. If he is still coaching you and you feel confident that you can do what he does, then get it. One of the reasons I switched to Hexer was that I looked at all the players around me and asked who was the one I played the most like technically. I remembered he used Hexer on both sides so I tried it and then it was love at first sight after the reunion (last year, it didn't stand out for whatever reason). I decided that I had time to figure out what I couldn't get from it but what it gave me was stuff that I was not getting from my current rubbers. I haven't tried anything else since and I am finally countering topspin at the table with it so I am pretty much set until I look at short pushing and serve return.