China Super League 2017

[tropical]

Sheet... I remember ML lost 0-4 to XX last year. Call it an embarrassment all you like! But in the end in BIG international tournaments it was all ML again.

 

[rainneverever]

As Liu Guozheng will coach CNT in 2018 Team World Cup, there are many speculations that Qin Zhijian and Ma Lin are kicked out of CNT as well. It is said that before the boycott, GAS officials met with QZJ and told him that he would be the head of coaching team. But QZJ still boycotted. QZJ may go to Beijing provincial team and M Lin may go to Guangdong. ML may be appointed a new coach in CNT.

We should know whether these are true or just rumors soon. IMO, QZJ and M Lin's career in CNT is done as they cannot coach any international tournaments. QZJ threw away a promising future to support LGL; sad but true, on LGL's birthday and other occasions, QZJ is one of the very few TT people who keeps supporting LGL in public.

BTW, the head of CNT coaching team is said to be decided between WH and Liu Guozheng as Wu Jingping is too old. More coaches may join the team from nowhere.

This really looks like they cut him off for good.. For some unknown reason. And most likely he is not even allowed to talk about it on public.
So maybe if we had an insider, we would know.
All we have left are rummours.

But imagine - how would you feel? Whole life you gave for chinese table tennis and then.. they kick you out..

 

[Ilia Minkin]

Following vicious politics in CNT is more entertaining than watching "House of Cards".

 

[Trismegistus]

Sheet... I remember ML lost 0-4 to XX last year. Call it an embarrassment all you like! But in the end in BIG international tournaments it was all ML again.

Huh? I don't think this happened last year....I'm not sure if ML lost to XX at all last year, and the last time I can remember him losing to XX 4-0 was at the Qatar Open 7 years ago (2011).

 

[rainneverever]

According to the introduction, the assistant umpire is local.

China_Super_League employing foreign umpires ? In this video, the assistant umpire does not look asian at all. He is very much like Michael Maze, Danish player.

You're right. I just checked ITTF database of match results since 2008 and it showed 5 matches that ML did not win a game. http://results.ittf.link/index.php?option=com_fabrik&view=list&listid=36&Itemid=158
2016 China Open ML 0-4 FZD
2012 Asian OG Qualification ML 0-3 Koki Niwa
2012 World Cup group ML 0-4 CCY
2011 Qatar Open ML 0-4 XX
2008 Japan Open ML 0-4 WH
I guess he might refer to 2016 China Open when FZD beat ML for the first time in an international event?

The most recent encounters of ML and XX (all events included):
2017 Japan Open ML 4-2 XX
2017 WTTC ML 4-0 XX
2017 Marvellous 12 Trial ML 2-1 XX
2016 CTTSL R15 ML 2-3 XX
2016 CTTSL R6 ML 3-0 XX
2016 Korea Open ML 3-4 XX
2016 Japan Open ML 2-4 XX
2016 Kuwait Open ML 4-1 XX
2016 WTTTC trial ML 4-5 XX

Huh? I don't think this happened last year....I'm not sure if ML lost to XX at all last year, and the last time I can remember him losing to XX 4-0 was at the Qatar Open 7 years ago (2011).

 

[tropical]

Sorry guys .. pardon my poor memory. It was 0-3 in 2016 hic hic..

 

[rainneverever]

Sorry guys .. pardon my poor memory. It was 0-3 in 2016 hic hic..

But there was no ML 0-3 XX in 2016, either lol
I don't think not winning a game is an embarrassment. But if the scores are all 1:11, 2:11, maybe.

 

[tropical]

Help me here rain. What/when was the game that XX beat ML with a beautiful forehand flip to seal the match. And also there was an immediate game later XX also beat ML (possibly Japan?)

 

[yoass]

Following vicious politics in CNT is more entertaining than watching "House of Cards".

I find it heartbreaking and depressing. A great loss, personally for the three coaches and the three players, and for the sport. There’s only hurt here, no entertainment.

Yes, bloody civil wars, interesting history from a few centuries distance. War of the roses is somewhat entertaining when told as a whirling tale of firy dragons, fierce maidens and witty dwarfs, maybe. But as these things happen it’s no laughing matter to those taking part. Even the American Civil War is still an open wound. You can experience the same in Spain, very close to home for me.

Anyway, I get what you’re saying, but hey, these are real people getting crushed cruelly, not fictional characters in contrived Hollywood-plots.

 

[rainneverever]

Likely to be 2016 Korea Open final after ML saved 4 matchpoints in the 7th game, XX flipped returning serve and won 11-9. Japan Open was before that, though.

Help me here rain. What/when was the game that XX beat ML with a beautiful forehand flip to seal the match. And also there was an immediate game later XX also beat ML (possibly Japan?)

 

[tropical]

Thanks Rain. BTW, may I know your real name? Just kidding he he ..

 

[rainneverever]

I find it heartbreaking and depressing. A great loss, personally for the three coaches and the three players, and for the sport. There’s only hurt here, no entertainment.

Anyway, I get what tou’re saying, but hey, these are real people getting crushed cruelly, not fictional characters in contrived Hollywood-plots.

Some people go for money and some people go for justice. I think they don't regret what they did and they don't care about what they would lose. The three players cannot be punished too harsh; or who will secure China more gold medals? It is natural that QZJ, at that time the head coach of men's team and was offered the position as head of coach team after the removal of head coaches upon GAS reformation, would take responsibilities. Why did he not accept the offer? Besides the brotherhood, he might see something detrimental to CNT in GAS's reformation and new policies. The mode of coach team without head coach has been proven ineffective in CNT in early 2000s as well as in other sports in China. We will see more CTTA new policies in action like U21 player has at least one spot in WTTTC and Team WC lineup, failing in qualification or losing to a non CNT player in the first round of tour events leads to a ban and only time tells if the reformation does good.

 

[Ilia Minkin]

I find it heartbreaking and depressing. A great loss, personally for the three coaches and the three players, and for the sport. There’s only hurt here, no entertainment.

Yes, bloody civil wars, interesting history from a few centuries distance. War of the roses is somewhat entertaining when told as a whirling tale of firy dragons, fierce maidens and witty dwarfs, maybe. But as these things happen it’s no laughing matter to those taking part. Even the American Civil War is still an open wound. You can experience the same in Spain, very close to home for me.

Anyway, I get what you’re saying, but hey, these are real people getting crushed cruelly, not fictional characters in contrived Hollywood-plots.

Indeed. It will be very disheartening to see Ma Lin's career taking a downswing before even taking off.

 

[rainneverever]

http://sports.sina.com.cn/others/pingpang/2018-01-19/doc-ifyquptv7919122.shtml
Ma Lin updated his Sina Weibo, posted a photo of him hugging ML after ML won 2017 China National Games and a fan drawing of his profile photo that was taken after he won 2008 OG. He wrote, "A special photo of us. Don't forget the initial goal. The strong people rely on themselves." People think he meant that he is leaving CNT and no longer the coach of ML.

Indeed. It will be very disheartening to see Ma Lin's career taking a downswing before even taking off.

 

[Michal_Z]

So, do we have new results and videos?

 

[JesperStef]

Results from Men's Round 13 (Tue 23 January):


[8:4] Bayi 1:3 Jiangsu [2:10]
1) Zhou Yu 3:1 Yang Shuo (11:5, 11:8, 3:11, 11:9)
2) Zhou Kai 1:3 Zhang Yudong (10:12, 11:8, 5:11, 10:12)
3) Zhou Kai/Song Xu 1:2 Kong Lingxuan/Cai Wei (11:5, 7:11, 6:8)
4) Zhou Yu 2:3 Zhang Yudong (9:11, 11:5, 11:8, 3:11, 8:10)
5) Song Xu vs Kong Lingxuan


[6:6] Tianjin 3:0 Shenzhen [7:5]
1) Ma Te 3:1 Hao Shuai (11:5, 4:11, 11:6, 11:8)
2) Ma Long 3:0 Xu Chenhao (12:10, 11:7, 11:7)
3) Cheng Jingqi/Liu Dingshuo 2:0 Xu Chenhao/Ren Hao (12:10, 12:10)
4) Ma Long vs Hao Shuai
5) Liu Dingshuo vs Ren Hao


[6:6] Anhui 0:3 Shandong Luneng [8:4]
1) Liu Yi 0:3 Zhang Chao (8:11, 7:11, 5:11)
2) Zhou Qihao 1:3 Fang Bo (7:11, 11:7, 10:12, 6:11)
3) Zhou Qihao/Zhu Cheng 1:2 Zhang Chao/Shang Kun (3:11, 11:9, 3:7)
4) Liu Yi vs Fang Bo
5) Zhu Cheng vs Shang Kun


[1:11] Sichuan 1:3 Shanghai [5:7]
1) Zhu Linfeng 1:3 Cui Qinglei (8:11, 7:11, 13:11, 8:11)
2) Lai Jiaxin 0:3 Xu Xin (8:11, 6:11, 9:11)
3) Yan Sheng/Xu Ruifeng 2:0 Zhao Zihao/Cui Qinglei (11:8, 11:3)
4) Zhu Linfeng 0:3 Xu Xin (6:11, 10:12, 5:11)
5) Xu Ruifeng vs Zhao Zihao


[7:5] Bazhou 2:3 Shandong Weiqiao [10:2]
1) Liang Jingkun 2:3 Lin Gaoyuan (11:4, 10:12, 12:10, 4:11, 4:7)
2) Sai Linwei 1:3 Yan An (5:11, 6:11, 11:8, 7:11)
3) Yu Heyi/Sai Linwei 2:1 Xue Fei/Xia Yizheng (12:10, 6:11, 7:5)
4) Liang Jingkun 3:0 Yan An (14:12, 12:10, 11:7)
5) Niu Guankai 1:2 Xue Fei (11:7, 6:11, 6:8)


Standings (after Round 13):
01) Shendong Weiqiao (11:2)
02) Shandong Luneng (9:4),
03) Bayi (8:5)
04) Bazhou, Shenzhen, Tianjin (7:6)
07) Anhui, Shanghai (6:7)
09) Jiangsu (2:11)
10) Sichuan (1:12)


Source: http://cttsl.sports.cn/schedule/


Next round: Sat 27 January (Round 14)

 

[JesperStef]

Results from Men's Round 14 (Sat 27 January):


[7:6] Shenzhen 1:3 Bayi [8:5]
1) Ren Hao 1:3 Zhou Yu (11:7, 10:12, 9:11, 8:11)
2) Zheng Peifeng 2:3 Fan Zhendong (10:12, 11:7, 11:7, 6:11, 3:7)
3) Hao Shuai/Xu Chenhao 2:0 Zhou Yu/Zhou Kai (11:6, 11:8)
4) Ren Hao 0:3 Fan Zhendong (5:11, 8:11, 9:11)
5) Xu Chenhao vs Zhou Kai


[9:4] Shandong Luneng 3:0 Jiangsu [2:11]
1) Fang Bo 3:2 Sun Wen (11:9, 11:8, 9:11, 9:11, 7:5)
2) Shang Kun 3:0 Zhang Yudong (11:3, 15:13, 12:10)
3) Shang Kun/Zhang Chao 2:0 Kong Lingxuan/Cai Wei (12:10, 11:9)
4) Fang Bo vs Zhang Yudong
5) Zhang Chao vs Yang Shuo


[6:7] Shanghai 2:3 Tianjin [7:6]
1) Zhao Zihao 0:3 Ma Long (12:14, 3:11, 6:11)
2) Xu Xin 3:2 Fang Yinchi /11:5, 7:11, 11:9, 11:13, 7:4)
3) Cui Qinglei/Zhao Zihao 0:2 Liu Dingshuo/Cheng Jingqi (8:11, 9:11)
4) Xu Xin 3:0 Ma Long (12:10, 11:7, 12:10)
5) Cui Qinglei 1:2 Liu Dingshuo (9:11, 13:11, 5:7)


[11:2] Weiqiao 3:1 Anhui [6:7]
1) Yan An 3:1 Yu Ziyang (11:6, 13:11, 10:12, 11:6)
2) Lin Gaoyuan 3:2 Zhou Qihao (11:13, 16:14, 11:7, 8:11, 7:2)
3) Yan An/Xue Fei 0:2 Zhou Qihao/Zhu Cheng (4:11, 9:11)
4) Lin Gaoyuan 3:2 Yu Ziyang (4:11, 16:18, 11:5, 11:3, 7:4)
5) Xue Fei vs Liu Yi


[7:6] Bazhou 3:0 Sichuan [1:12]
1) Wang Chuqin 3:1 Zhu Linfeng (11:5, 11:5, 7:11, 11:7)
2) Liang Jingkun 3:1 Lai Jiaxin (10:12, 11:6, 11:3, 11:5)
3) Wang Chuqin/Yu Heyi 2:0 Xu Ruifeng/Yan Sheng (11:5, 11:8)
4) Liang Jingkun vs Zhu Linfeng
5) Niu Guankai vs Xu Ruifeng


Standings (after Round 14):
01) Shendong Weiqiao (12:2)
02) Shandong Luneng (10:4)
03) Bayi (9:5)
04) Bazhou, Tianjin (8:6)
06) Shenzhen (7:7)
07) Anhui, Shanghai (6:8)
09) Jiangsu (2:12)
10) Sichuan (1:13)


Source: http://cttsl.sports.cn/schedule/


Next round: Tue 30 January (Round 15)

 

[NextLevel]

Xu Xin in beast mode.

 

[yoass]

Xu Xin in beast mode.

Orocharu in beast mode tops Ma Long in mortal mode, so it seems.

 

[table tennis fans]

Xu Xin in beast mode.

I can't wait to see this match which will be replayed on Great Sports on 30 Jan, 09:05 (GMT+8)