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Yep. I used Ali for the fact that, because he was a wild and colorful personality, he had international fame and a platform to make waves in the political sphere as well. His fame transcended the sport as did his larger than life personality. Some of the stuff he did in the ring, well, there was definitely some stuff that was less sportsmanlike than what Harimoto does.
The tennis players too. I just was pointing out that big personality is an okay thing in sports. My point when I mentioned Camacho and Prince Naseem was, I hated them and it gave me a rooting interest against them, as a result of their flamboyant personalities. Even as Ali's flamboyant personality caused me to like him (even if I did not like some of the antics in the ring). As Zyu has pointed out, having someone to root against brings fans to the table just as having someone to root for. So, maybe eccentric personalities would not be such a bad thing for the sport even if it does not need it.
Does that have to do with Harimoto's screams? Nah. It has to do with adding color and personality to TT. I think ZJK actually had a little of that even if I did not like ZJK's hoards of fan girls.
What do I think about the screaming between points: I don't care about it. I understand if someone likes it. I understand if someone else dislikes it. But I would not be so understanding of someone wanting to ban it or him for doing it. And I think we may have more important things to think about than whether a kid screaming is going to ruin Table Tennis.
So, I thought Passifid's post was useful and got that it was a response, at least in part, to some of the videos I posted. I think it was well thought out and presented a balance to the side of things I was presenting. Having both sides is more balanced.
I am not going to say TT players should grab their opponent's by the head and tell them they can't hit hard (and much worse) the way Ali did in the ring. I don't think you can become a personality like John McEnroe by trying to be someone you are not. But it would be nice if TT found some way to let the personalities of the players shine through more: it might actually increase interest in the sport.
But screaming between points in Professional Matches: I just think being too fussy about the issue reminds me of all the behavior shaming that happens on social media. And I think that is an endless downward spiral. You can like screaming, fine; you can dislike like screaming, fine: but don't try and force others to agree with thinking the sport should ban it, or that it is UNSPORTSMANLIKE because some specific people don't like it.
The tennis players too. I just was pointing out that big personality is an okay thing in sports. My point when I mentioned Camacho and Prince Naseem was, I hated them and it gave me a rooting interest against them, as a result of their flamboyant personalities. Even as Ali's flamboyant personality caused me to like him (even if I did not like some of the antics in the ring). As Zyu has pointed out, having someone to root against brings fans to the table just as having someone to root for. So, maybe eccentric personalities would not be such a bad thing for the sport even if it does not need it.
Does that have to do with Harimoto's screams? Nah. It has to do with adding color and personality to TT. I think ZJK actually had a little of that even if I did not like ZJK's hoards of fan girls.
What do I think about the screaming between points: I don't care about it. I understand if someone likes it. I understand if someone else dislikes it. But I would not be so understanding of someone wanting to ban it or him for doing it. And I think we may have more important things to think about than whether a kid screaming is going to ruin Table Tennis.
So, I thought Passifid's post was useful and got that it was a response, at least in part, to some of the videos I posted. I think it was well thought out and presented a balance to the side of things I was presenting. Having both sides is more balanced.
I am not going to say TT players should grab their opponent's by the head and tell them they can't hit hard (and much worse) the way Ali did in the ring. I don't think you can become a personality like John McEnroe by trying to be someone you are not. But it would be nice if TT found some way to let the personalities of the players shine through more: it might actually increase interest in the sport.
But screaming between points in Professional Matches: I just think being too fussy about the issue reminds me of all the behavior shaming that happens on social media. And I think that is an endless downward spiral. You can like screaming, fine; you can dislike like screaming, fine: but don't try and force others to agree with thinking the sport should ban it, or that it is UNSPORTSMANLIKE because some specific people don't like it.
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