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toooooo much choice!!
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toooooo much choice!!
https://youtu.be/cMQ3TYKUrO8link to my last match.Comments please, I'm wearing blue T shirt!!!
Your hard work and your initiative in seeking coaching has done you a lot of good. The level of opposition might be different, but your technique is much cleaner here. You are playing over the ball on both sides with solid topspins and not flat shots. A radical difference to me from the last video you shared. Sometimes, the core isn't as involved as ideal because of movement/footwork, but we are adult learners, that is what we do. But here, you are playing a lot of genuine topspins.
Other comments:You could get a bit more out of your backhand serve with some practiced variations - your wrist is currently a bit too stifff. Your punch serve is really good. I think you need to work on circular high ball technique - you throw away a lot of points trying to flat smash easy balls.'
We are adult learners for sure with all the age and physical limitations therein but if you found away to get your legs ready to play the forehand topspin when the ball came to your forehand side off a push and did it more often, I think this would be a game changer.
More comments: Watching the match later, you started using circular technique and topspinning the high ball and did better. I don't see why with a more consistent approach to picking up balls on the forehand side you shouldn't do well in this matchup.
HI IB66
1st body language:- I think a more poker face is a big asset in any match - dont show emotion
Unless I am very much mistaken you possess a very good pendulum serve which you did not use at all but still you showed a very good hook serve with backspin to good effect throughout so altogether you seemed to have the tools to win against this gent 3-0.
with the serves at your disposal you just needed to have the mental control to play safely and its job done. Next time dont go for outright winners immediately instead soft shot small advantage, win on NEXT SHOT.
So i would say you need to practice soft flips and touch play along with practicing yr fh opener against push
practicing yr fh opener is not about rocket loops but just consistent play,, but I am sure you know that...
practice against a chopper to do gentle topspin-push gentle topspin to all parts of table. When you can do 30 stroke rally of this kind you would win this match with ease.
I think the good news is that the long path ahead of you is upwards !
A little on my opponent John, I have played him once previously about 3yrs ago and lost 3 zip, an easy game for him!! This time it went to 5 so there’s an improvement there.
Johns ranking in this league is 1012, in another league 1673 ( which is pretty close to TT365 ranking system which a good number of clubs use here in UK) My rankings are 658 and 1371 So a relatively large difference!!
Last night was a little jaded, knees were in pretty good shape but lower back wasn’t!! If it ain’t one thing it’s something else!!
So movement was pretty crap!!! No excuse there though. Too many mistakes and didn’t really implement what we have been training to do, which is a more controlled lower speed higher spin open up’s BH and FH
I suspect if you played him without the history and the pressure from it that you put on yourself, you would have won (that's my opinion). You have lot of the right tools, the key is to combine them to make it work, a little less power, a bit more placement, but stepping to the right place to make it work is a challenge. I didn't feel watching the match your opponent was better than you, though I suspect he took less risk because he probably felt safer than he should have.
BTW, you played an awesome quasi-pivot FH point I need to find. That is what we play TT for - those moments where we hit the highlight topspin .
Last night was a little jaded, knees were in pretty good shape but lower back wasn’t!! If it ain’t one thing it’s something else!!
So movement was pretty crap!!! No excuse there though. Too many mistakes and didn’t really implement what we have been training to do, which is a more controlled lower speed higher spin open up’s BH and FH
This ties in with one of pingpongpaddy’s comments about not using my FH pendulum serve.I suspect if you played him without the history and the pressure from it that you put on yourself, you would have won (that's my opinion). You have lot of the right tools, the key is to combine them to make it work, a little less power, a bit more placement, but stepping to the right place to make it work is a challenge. I didn't feel watching the match your opponent was better than you, though I suspect he took less risk because he probably felt safer than he should have.
BTW, you played an awesome quasi-pivot FH point I need to find. That is what we play TT for - those moments where we hit the highlight topspin .
There’s an old saying “ if you can’t do it, teach it” !!!! 🤣😂Evening IB66,
Thanks for pointing out your lower back discomfort, that does answer some of what I was wondering. No excuses taken. We are not in our teens anymore. Sometimes my achiles tendon flares up & I don't move as well. BTW, when you say visiting your physio, do you have access to a facility (& staff) or use a massage therapist treatment?
I am glad you provided your match link for viewing & feedback. As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another ...
I noticed Der, NL & PPP have provided feedback that are far better than I ever can, I am going to step aside on this one
I mean you are a better player than me (and a certified L1 coach), I am jst not that comfortable offering comments on your matches b/c I am not confident that I know what I am talking about ... yet
LDM7
I am in the school of thought it is OK to show emotions (release stress & anxiety) so long not going for Harimoto Award (intensity) every opportunity
I think sports should be played with fear, jubilations, frustrations and celebrations ... this is what makes competitive sports fun for me
I THEN RE-SET, I have at least two rituals that direct my focus (& brain) to the next point and next point alone. After all - one can only lose or win one point at a time!
The having a plan before serving (or receive) is the hard part for me, still WIP
Finally, execution is equally challenging for me b/c my concentration comes & goes during a match.
I do know the more I try, practice & self-talk positively, I am confident I will execute my plan better and not just putting my serves out there & going through the motion on other rally points
Ta' Ta'
LDM7
Hi PPP,HI IB66
1st body language:- I think a more poker face is a big asset in any match - dont show emotion
Unless I am very much mistaken you possess a very good pendulum serve which you did not use at all but still you showed a very good hook serve with backspin to good effect throughout so altogether you seemed to have the tools to win against this gent 3-0.
with the serves at your disposal you just needed to have the mental control to play safely and its job done. Next time dont go for outright winners immediately instead soft shot small advantage, win on NEXT SHOT.
So i would say you need to practice soft flips and touch play along with practicing yr fh opener against push
practicing yr fh opener is not about rocket loops but just consistent play,, but I am sure you know that...
practice against a chopper to do gentle topspin-push gentle topspin to all parts of table. When you can do 30 stroke rally of this kind you would win this match with ease.
I think the good news is that the long path ahead of you is upwards !
IB66,
You did a lot of stuff to give him the match. Multiple unforced errors. Your aggressive receive of serve lost points. Your misread of light spin caused popups he killed. Similar misread from his light or dead push got you killed. You gave away points on half your power loops that were not clear chances.
What kept you in the match was your serving and occasional placement on a block or receive to his middle. As match got longer, you were better on popup or high balls.
Hi Der,
Yep 100% correct. Wasn’t expecting anything less!!!
1st 2 ends were very poor, just lame!!!
Didn’t do what we have been aiming for, which compared to other matches that I’ve won and lost recently, when I did implement things better, is the REAL let down!!
A little on my opponent John, I have played him once previously about 3yrs ago and lost 3 zip, an easy game for him!! This time it went to 5 so there’s an improvement there.
Johns ranking in this league is 1012, in another league 1673 ( which is pretty close to TT365 ranking system which a good number of clubs use here in UK) My rankings are 658 and 1371 So a relatively large difference!!
Last night was a little jaded, knees were in pretty good shape but lower back wasn’t!! If it ain’t one thing it’s something else!!
So movement was pretty crap!!! No excuse there though. Too many mistakes and didn’t really implement what we have been training to do, which is a more controlled lower speed higher spin open up’s BH and FH
I am with NL, Paddy and anyone else of the opinion that you should have won 3-0 or 3-1.
Hi PPP,
Yeah I show emotions !! Perhaps to much depending on how you feel about that!! Perhaps show positive emotions rather than negative.
Muscle and mind memory ( perhaps out of sync after 30+ years) back in the day I played a lot of FH topspin v backspin, no spin floaters, light spin, Barna bat choppers in practice sessions, Back then, 30 Stroke rally was possible and was not safe or slow, a mixture, rocket loops slower loops NO pushing in between!!!
Nowadays !!!! Hahahaha, Mind and body still think that’s possible, REALITY CHECK !!!!
Still ingrained but not same technique ability I had back then!!!
FH pendulum serve, did use it a couple of times, think receive error to one of those serves resulted (gotta check again!) should have used it more than I did. Point taken!!
Hi IB66,
Personally, in the first 3 years after I moved to California, (after my initial ratings drop) I took zero lessons, do practically zero drills, and went to the TT club maybe 2 or 3 times a week for a few hours and basically GOOFED OFF... but it wasn't mindless. I tried to apply a better attitude with some of the things I was practicing with only light stress or emphasis. I greatly reduced the number of local league matches I did.
When I did tourneys, I incrementally improved my responses to points that didn't go my way. With enough improvement, it was making a difference... tourney by tourney I did better in the mental aspect WITHOUT ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT IN BALL STRIKING. Eventually, I was pressuring the 2000+ crowd, an occasion win here or there, then I started to defeat a few of this class each tourney. Then, I knew I was 2000+ Cali and it showed.
This is a small story of how an over the hill over-heavy dude and turn some stuff around without improving base level or ball striking skills. ANYONE should be able to do it if my hot garbage self improved from a trash container fire into above average.
Paddy might remember me from the days of DTTW forum (Dennis Table Tennis World) where I enthusiastically posted as a 1400 level rec player. It can be turned around, even with a late start.
back then you already stood out as moving in the right DERection!
Hi Der,
Yep 100% correct. Wasn’t expecting anything less!!!
1st 2 ends were very poor, just lame!!!
Didn’t do what we have been aiming for, which compared to other matches that I’ve won and lost recently, when I did implement things better, is the REAL let down!!
Morning IB66,
One area focusing to improve is striking EVERY ball with quality (spin, location, timing, height ...) exerting pressure onto the other (especially on opening)
This requires an attitude adjustment above my neck, between my ears
I am training every shot with intent (BH whip, FH power from the ground up)
Also I make certain I am physically warmed up, ready to compete, even a practice session as I am a believer of you practice how you play matches (carries over better)
Good show mate 👍
Let's do another round of video analysis in two week (a break & get some training in)
LDM7