Some of my today training footage

[UpSideDownCarl]

Just to add here, there is a downside to posting video online......

As far as I can see, GM hasn't asked for any advice, and has simply posted his own video for everyone to see what level he is at - Something many forum regulars recommend to be able to contribute in a more effective way.

To be clear, it would be extremely unlikely that any internet advice would be better than an in person coach.

Both Gozo and GM have in person coaches, and they should absolutely listen to them 100% of the time, and take very little from what people comment - Certainly around technique.

Equipment is a different matter, but again, if the coach has an opinion, I would go with whatever they say.

Yep. I agree. I wasn't going to say anything. But it is interesting how he did not ask for help and seemed to just be showing his standard of play. Not sure why comments on improving would be made if not asked for and if he clearly has access to coaching and training with decent level players. But this is how the forum is. So....

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Yep. I agree. I wasn't going to say anything. But it is interesting how he did not ask for help and seemed to just be showing his standard of play. Not sure why comments on improving would be made if not asked for and if he clearly has access to coaching and training with decent level players. But this is how the forum is. So....

Because we're all one happy global village, one global family...

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

GM,

Just wanna shout out to your Prez, he's the most badazz dude of this decade. R-E-S-P-E-C-T!

 

[blahness]

Does anyone else find it mighty impressive that OP got to this level in just 2 years of playing?!

 

[SleepyMaster]

Does anyone else find it mighty impressive that OP got to this level in just 2 years of playing?!

If to be fair, amount of training should be little more than a year. In two years in total i was off totally for 5 months bc of war, and after that another surprise - got heart catheter ablation and I was able to train only my serves at home for about 4 months.
Anyway, getting my ass to the tourney today, always playing it on Saturdays - going to be fun 🏓

 

[SleepyMaster]

Became 4d on the tourney, top 3 guys were all with 10+ years of experience, and they about 2000+ Almost able to beat the guy who became 3d (after first two sets score was 1:1, then I lose two games on a deuce) and i actually have a wins over him, but today he played little bit better

So there is a lot of work to do. The most pleasant thing was, is to get two wins over pips players with 3:1 score, I thought it would be more hard of a work.

The only downside is that I missed my massage session, since I was played way more games than I expected 🧜🏻‍♂️

 

[Kopp]

Appreciate everyone is giving nice comments.

Sorry, but why didn't you (OP) post the videos in the Video Footage Safe Thread section? At least someone else could benefit from the advice.

 

[SleepyMaster]

Appreciate everyone is giving nice comments.

Sorry, but why didn't you (OP) post the videos in the Video Footage Safe Thread section? At least someone else could benefit from the advice.

I didn't know that there is actual difference between my own topic and the section that you mentioned. I have a coach to correct my technique and mistakes that leading me to losing a points or a game, but I can upload next time to video footage safe thread, or just upload here and will ask for an advice if it will be needed, the most hard part is actually to be able to record some more interesting drills or a matches

 

[NextLevel]

A lot of things go into playing better, unless you have a coach observing how you lose and win points and developing a strategy and tactics to adjust for these things, it is easy to pretend that such simplistic advices as "get lower", "put the ball on the table more", "stand wider" are going to make a player better. Real coaching is not just about such general training. It is about looking at how a player is losing points and constructing sequences and drills to get around that. Of course, at the highest levels, everything is exposed because everything happens so quickly that you can't solve everything with athleticism and your game reading skills will be challenged. But vs. lower levels, most top players will just be too fast for anything you do to matter. The quality of play that you will need to challenge Quadri's backhand topspin, to give one example, is beyond most of us because you will need to get past his serves, his pushes etc. and even his easy forehand putways before you could force him to use his backhand under pressure in a serious match. And even then you would need the consistency and quality to challenge his block.

It is easy to see that whether standing straight or getting lower, OP has good fundamental stroke technique better than most/all of us, and the real question is how it translates to match play. It is hard to tell the speed at which someone can play just by watching them drill, you might get an idea of their preferred playing speed, but you can't tell their playing speed. That's why Carl wants to see what match footage looks like.

 

[Brs]

Real coaching is not just about such general training. It is about looking at how a player is losing points and constructing sequences and drills to get around that. ...

That's why Carl wants to see what match footage looks like.

Point patterns are also lots of fun, and would probably be more useful on a forum bc they can be applied at almost any level. Or at least the thought process can be applied.

I got to work about 90 minutes with one player yesterday. She has a decent fh loop and plays 0x LP backhand. Playing around with a pips serve for her, she asked me, How would I use that against Player X from our club. So we talked a bit about X's style and equipment, tendencies. Then I played as X (penhold fh looper w tpb) and my student served different places, lengths, speeds to see what would happen. Most effective was a soft LP serve off the short wide bh. If X tpbs it to the middle or bh, my player can step left and topspin down the line. If X tries to return wide fh she can step right and loop across which is even easier. So X's only option is to play wide short bh, like mirror the serve. Then my player has to hit or push it with the LP (depends how high), again to wide fh line.

That was fun, and I think at least as useful as the work we did on technique and movement. She can apply that process to anybody she plays.

 

[SleepyMaster]

 

[SleepyMaster]

Have added few more drills if someone is interested

 

[SleepyMaster]

 

[SleepyMaster]

Little bit of a backhand third/fifth ball openers with some continuous rally. This one is more close to the game situation or nah?

 

[jk1980]

Little bit of a backhand third/fifth ball openers with some continuous rally. This one is more close to the game situation or nah?

It seems like your Coach is playing the Ball exactly to where you stand all the time. That is good to learn the technique in itself, but I would have liked him to return the serve to the forehand so that you needed to move at least a little to topspin.

The second drill has you move a bit and it seems like you are standing very upright which can be detrimental in a real game.

 

[SleepyMaster]

It seems like your Coach is playing the Ball exactly to where you stand all the time. That is good to learn the technique in itself, but I would have liked him to return the serve to the forehand so that you needed to move at least a little to topspin.

The second drill has you move a bit and it seems like you are standing very upright which can be detrimental in a real game.

Did you watch all the video or just some part of it? there were balls for forehand too, and not the one. But accent was on backhand opening, so forehand where only occasionally used - for reaction. I did all kind of forehands for the first 1.5 hours hours straight, before this exercise.

And for the second drill - its against medium high lobbing, there is no sense to stand low while dealing against such balls. Good luck to ''stay low" while someone is lobbing to you

 

[jk1980]

I did

Did you watch all the video or just some part of it? there were balls for forehand too, and not the one. But accent was on backhand opening, so forehand where only occasionally used - for reaction. I did all kind of forehands for the first 1.5 hours hours straight, before this exercise.

And for the second drill - its against medium high lobbing, there is no sense to stand low while dealing against such balls. Good luck to ''stay low" while someone is lobbing to you

Not watch all. You are correct.

It is not about staying low, but rather having a low stance in general. That can change one stroke execution if you smash, but would mostly stay low for everything else. There are players that can make do with an upright stance, but those play for decades like that and are used to it. Your coach will know best how to get the most of you.

 

[SleepyMaster]

I did

Not watch all. You are correct.

It is not about staying low, but rather having a low stance in general. That can change one stroke execution if you smash, but would mostly stay low for everything else. There are players that can make do with an upright stance, but those play for decades like that and are used to it. Your coach will know best how to get the most of you.

So why I should stay low for the lobbing balls? There is no need to it. They should be played differently. The sense of an advice like "you should mostly low" almost not giving any sense.

And you didn't even watched the video, but pointed something - that makes again no sense at all. But I get it, this is the forum, and it is created for a people to giving an advices, on a things that they mostly have no clue

 

[UpSideDownCarl]

I teach a certain kind of group fitness class. I also teach people one-on-one. A lot of what I do is movement analysis and then, the problem solving of what will help a specific person make movements that are not functional or effective become more functional and effective and thereby safer. When I see other people teaching group fitness classes, I often see directions given that are completely out of context and therefore make no sense.

Sometimes I refer to this as being like someone trying to teach a running class on a treadmill to a room full of people in wheelchairs.

The first things I've noticed in this thread are:

1) You still have not asked anyone for advice so I would consider the footage as you showing us your standard of play.....not you asking for advice. I would encourage TTD members to continue thinking that unless and until GrandMast3r asks for advice.
2) Most of the people who are giving advice are not really commenting on your technique in context but instead are repeating things they have heard whether it has to do with the scenario of the footage you have shown or not.
3) So far, the higher rated players who seem to know technique have watched the footage and not said anything more than, "thanks for posting footage".

Now I know people in TT like to help. But it is questionable to be trying to give technique advice to someone who is NOT ASKING FOR IT. And it is interesting to particularly see the advice given by people who are clearly not at the level of the person they are trying to give advice to......think about it.

You don't have to have something to say about everything. And GrandMast3r's footage kind of speaks for itself. I am confident he can analyze it and figure things out for himself as well.

When I performed in the circus and before I performed in the circus, while I was training to do what I did in the circus, we took lots of footage and after training sessions we would analyze footage. This can help you improve. But, if GM has come so far in just a short period of play time, I would suspect that he can analyze the footage for himself and I would recommend forum members try to view the footage as getting to know who he is better rather than trying to give him advice.

 

[SleepyMaster]

I teach a certain kind of group fitness class. I also teach people one-on-one. A lot of what I do is movement analysis and then, the problem solving of what will help a specific person make movements that are not functional or effective become more functional and effective and thereby safer. When I see other people teaching group fitness classes, I often see directions given that are completely out of context and therefore make no sense.

Sometimes I refer to this as being like someone trying to teach a running class on a treadmill to a room full of people in wheelchairs.

The first things I've noticed in this thread are:

1) You still have not asked anyone for advice so I would consider the footage as you showing us your standard of play.....not you asking for advice. I would encourage TTD members to continue thinking that unless and until GrandMast3r asks for advice.
2) Most of the people who are giving advice are not really commenting on your technique in context but instead are repeating things they have heard whether it has to do with the scenario of the footage you have shown or not.
3) So far, the higher rated players who seem to know technique have watched the footage and not said anything more than, "thanks for posting footage".

Now I know people in TT like to help. But it is questionable to be trying to give technique advice to someone who is NOT ASKING FOR IT. And it is interesting to particularly see the advice given by people who are clearly not at the level of the person they are trying to give advice to......think about it.

You don't have to have something to say about everything. And GrandMast3r's footage kind of speaks for itself. I am confident he can analyze it and figure things out for himself as well.

When I performed in the circus and before I performed in the circus, while I was training to do what I did in the circus, we took lots of footage and after training sessions we would analyze footage. This can help you improve. But, if GM has come so far in just a short period of play time, I would suspect that he can analyze the footage for himself and I would recommend forum members try to view the footage as getting to know who he is better rather than trying to give him advice.

The main thing why I post, that most people here telling me, that there is no way, that someone could learn basics of TT in a year, and getting some kind of an decent amateur level. Which I did, and I often getting myself a wins over much more experienced players, league players with rating.

So my point is - yes, you can. Especially if you started doing different kind of sport, since young age, and if you putting lots of a work in TT training.

As for mistakes, I know what parts of my game needed to be improved. Consistency is the number one right now, and playing as more matches as I can. I have power, I have basics strokes, I have good serves. My legs could be moved better, but that’s the curst of an most amateur.

For my humble opinion, you need about 10000 of matches to became good at something, I have played about 1500-2000 so a lot of work needed to be done. I just need to doing what I do, analysing it, and do it even better. Keeping practice and not to die by some shitty ruzzian rocket - that’s the only way 😉