Experience with some other Loki rubbers - Arthur China, GTX Pro (inc)

[mocker88]

My H3 is not slow

The kick with heavy spin from my H3 is way higher than any other rubber I have tested.

That is not just my feeling, but the blockers feeling too.

There is just something in that topsheet + sponge that all these brands still cant copy right and if they can’t come up with something that has equal or more spin, H3 will still be dominant in pro FH market in Asia. Every brand is trying to take on H3

Yep. There's a kick that I really can't explain, but I feel that it's the combination of the top sheet and the sponge when brushing the ball really hard...

 

[longle]

Oh no.. 😖 my 2nd sheet on the 4th day... I don't know if I should buy another sheet although I like it a lot 😞

 

[hclnnkhg]

Oh no.. 😖 my 2nd sheet on the 4th day... I don't know if I should buy another sheet although I like it a lot 😞

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Try buying it from a different place, maybe the shop you bought from just have a bad batch?

If LAC bubbles that easily, we'd have heard that from other users as well.

 

[Attitude]

Try buying it from a different place, maybe the shop you bought from just have a bad batch?

If LAC bubbles that easily, we'd have heard that from other users as well.

Agree.

But that is really odd either way.
Im in my second month with it, currently training 8-10 hours/week. And both sides are still fine aside from having caught an edge^^

If im lucky they will make it shortly to the end of summer pause in august. We will see

 

[longle]

Try buying it from a different place, maybe the shop you bought from just have a bad batch?

If LAC bubbles that easily, we'd have heard that from other users as well.

this one I bought from a different shop than the first one, but they have the same price. Maybe they have the same faulty batch and that's the reason for the sale off 😝

 

[mattlamperouge]

this one I bought from a different shop than the first one, but they have the same price. Maybe they have the same faulty batch and that's the reason for the sale off 😝

Thats so sad to hear, only the 4th day!!

i always wondered if other factors make rubbers bubble easily since a lot of users share different experiences. Like brushing technique, how hard the player hits, climate changes (temperature/humidity) extra agents like boost/cleaning etc.
Like with boosted H3 blue sponge or similiar, there is a lot of experiences with easy bubbles and topsheet separation but also people that says they are extremely durable (like up to a year casual)
Personally i started experimenting boosting with haifu like 1.5 years ago with different rubbers, i was a bit deterrent by the bad experiences some people shared but i didnt have any problems yet, nor did my clubmates either.
Of course we dont hit as hard as top level players so the rubbers last a long time anyway for our level at least.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

have you thought of emailing Loki and ask?

 

[Zwill]

Oh no.. 😖 my 2nd sheet on the 4th day... I don't know if I should buy another sheet although I like it a lot 😞

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Awww crap, I bought it recently too. Feels like I am sitting on a timebomb.
It's not an expensive rubber but changing it once or twice a week sounds silly.
I wonder how long mine will last.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Oh no.. 😖 my 2nd sheet on the 4th day... I don't know if I should buy another sheet although I like it a lot 😞

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So you boosted this sheet as well?

I guess it's good to know that I should not boost my LAC rubber.

 

[lodro]

So you boosted this sheet as well?

I guess it's good to know that I should not boost my LAC rubber.

My LAC has just left the ""Mother-country" , I bought it of GOO-shop.
I never had a plan of boosting it.
If the sponge proves to be as hard as the ones on the Rxton 5, I shall give a meagre coat of seamoon.

 

[turbozed]

this one I bought from a different shop than the first one, but they have the same price. Maybe they have the same faulty batch and that's the reason for the sale off 😝

I'm glad I ordered from the Loki Official store now instead of those Lazada sellers. 330k VND was low enough of a price to be enticing but also low enough to be a bit suspicious that something might be off. It's over a 40% discount from everywhere else.

 

[TensorBackhand]

I'm glad I ordered from the Loki Official store now instead of those Lazada sellers. 330k VND was low enough of a price to be enticing but also low enough to be a bit suspicious that something might be off. It's over a 40% discount from everywhere else.

That can't really be the issue though, right?

Loki is not going to distribute a lower quality set of rubbers to Lazada sellers, is it?

 

[turbozed]

That can't really be the issue though, right?

Loki is not going to distribute a lower quality set of rubbers to Lazada sellers, is it?

Why would you suggest that I thought Loki is making a conscious choice to distribute lower quality rubbers?

There are many reasons why quality control rejected samples of a product somehow get into public distribution. I'm not offering an explanation as to how it happened, only suggesting that it could happen.

I guess my question to you is: why would you believe that there is no possibility of lower quality product finding its way out of the Loki factory?

 

[TensorBackhand]

Why would you suggest that I thought Loki is making a conscious choice to distribute lower quality rubbers?

There are many reasons why quality control rejected samples of a product somehow get into public distribution. I'm not offering an explanation as to how it happened, only suggesting that it could happen.

I guess my question to you is: why would you believe that there is no possibility of lower quality product finding its way out of the Loki factory?

Well I don't know much about TT rubber distribution business. But did some employee steal the bad rubbers and sell to the Lazada stores on the black market? How did the rubbers get into the proper packaging then?

This doesn't seem like a reasonable answer. But if some of you guys have the rubber from Loki's official store, let us know how it reacts to booster. If it doesn't bubble, then good.

 

[turbozed]

Well I don't know much about TT rubber distribution business. But did some employee steal the bad rubbers and sell to the Lazada stores on the black market? How did the rubbers get into the proper packaging then?

This doesn't seem like a reasonable answer. But if some of you guys have the rubber from Loki's official store, let us know how it reacts to booster. If it doesn't bubble, then good.

I don't know enough either. But I do trust @longle 's experience. Two out of two sheets bubbled after a week, and they are both somehow discounted over 40% from everywhere else in the world from two different Lazada sellers. The odds of that happening and being unrelated seem so small to me that I'm just applying the principle of res ipsa loquitur ("the thing speaks for itself").

 

[TensorBackhand]

I don't know enough either. But I do trust @longle 's experience. Two out of two sheets bubbled after a week, and they are both somehow discounted over 40% from everywhere else in the world from two different Lazada sellers. The odds of that happening and being unrelated seem so small to me that I'm just applying the principle of res ipsa loquitur ("the thing speaks for itself").

Maybe Matt who has has been in contact with Loki agent can ask them if they do this? Sell bad batches of rubber at lower cost to Lazada sellers?

 

[TensorBackhand]

I just checked, I bought my LAC from Loki Official store on Aliexpress for $19.9

Is that much more expensive than Lazada?

 

[turbozed]

Maybe Matt who has has been in contact with Loki agent can ask them if they do this? Sell bad batches of rubber at lower cost to Lazada sellers?

Again, I don't know why you're pushing this narrative that this is some official Loki policy that they're going to divulge to their PR people.

In almost every other industry, grey area product somehow finds its way out of production. If the rubbers themselves can get out, then the even cheaper to make packaging can also get out.

I guess more questions I'd ask you is why is LAC only available for over a 40% discount in a country like Vietnam. Do you know of any other rubbers that sell for nearly half price of Aliexpress? How do you expect those sellers to make any money?

 

[turbozed]

I just checked, I bought my LAC from Loki Official store on Aliexpress for $19.9

Is that much more expensive than Lazada?

The LAC is $23.75 on Loki Official Store right now. It was only under $20 with the discounts from the sale 2 weeks ago. I know because I also purchased it from the Loki Official Store.

It's $13 at Lazada at all times with no sale.

$13 is 48% less than $23.75. You can nearly by 2 for the price of 1.

Is twice as expensive "much more expensive" to you?

 

[TensorBackhand]

The LAC is $23.75 on Loki Official Store right now. It was only under $20 with the discounts from the sale 2 weeks ago. I know because I also purchased it from the Loki Official Store.

It's $13 at Lazada at all times with no sale.

$13 is 48% less than $23.75. You can nearly by 2 for the price of 1.

Is twice as expensive "much more expensive" to you?

Well maybe you're right. But lets here some testing from people who bought the more expensive version of LAC to see if it's more resistant to bubbling.