Define MAX for me please

[lodro]

When it says 2.1mm MAX, what can I expect to get ? Is there a definition for this expression MAX
I thought it might have something to do with the 4mm maximum thickness allowed for the rubbers,
but ....."you tell me"" 😁

 

[Nima Abadi]

When speaking about thickness it does. 4mm is the maximum thickness allowed for the rubber and the sponge combined. So 2.1mm sponge MAX should come with a 1.9mm top sheet resulting in a max thickness of 4mm.

 

[lodro]

When speaking about thickness it does. 4mm is the maximum thickness allowed for the rubber and the sponge combined. So 2.1mm sponge MAX should come with a 1.9mm top sheet resulting in a max thickness of 4mm.

and if it is advertised as "" 2.1mm MAX""" but is only 3.66 and not 4mm ??

 

[Nima Abadi]

Hence why I said "should" .

It could be a faulty product or something else, best to check with the seller to see what's the deal.

 

[NextLevel]

and if it is advertised as "" 2.1mm MAX""" but is only 3.66 and not 4mm ??

I know the regulation needs some room for the glue, but MAX basically means this is their thickest legal and commercially available sponge and topsheet combination for this rubber and manufacturer.

 

[Nima Abadi]

and if it is advertised as "" 2.1mm MAX""" but is only 3.66 and not 4mm ??

Is at least the sponge 2.1mm??? Cause that's the part that needs to be right.

 

[lodro]

Is at least the sponge 2.1mm??? Cause that's the part that needs to be right.

Haaa, it is virtually impossible to measure the sponge separately and Chinese eyes see things different from western eyes. 🤣
Here is a side by side pic with a Rxton5 sponge

 

[lodro]

I know the regulation needs some room for the glue, but MAX basically means this is their thickest legal and commercially available sponge and topsheet combination for this rubber and manufacturer.

OK, this is likely to be the version that the seller will use MAX will therefore vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Others of course say MAX relates to the ITTF allowed max thickness of a rubber and then if it would be advertised as MAX it should be about 3.9mm allowing for glue

 

[NextLevel]

OK, this is likely to be the version that the seller will use MAX will therefore vary from manufacturer to manufacturer. Others of course say MAX relates to the ITTF allowed max thickness of a rubber and then if it would be advertised as MAX it should be about 3.9mm allowing for glue

Many players glue with more than 0.1mm of glue and some may boost the sponge a bit as well. So 3.9mm may not be the proposed max.

 

[jk1980]

that does make sense... 2.1mm sponge plus around 1.7mm top sheet will come out as 3.8mm overall thickness which is inside the 4.0mm allowed. Given manufacturing tolerances this is a sound margin for error to still stay inside 4.0 mm even if the sponge is a little thicker than defined

 

[lodro]

Many players glue with more than 0.1mm of rubber and some may boost the sponge a bit as well. So 3.9mm may not be the proposed max.

fair enough but of course we do have already 2 different versions of "MAX", the ITTF maximal allowed thickness of a rubber and your version of MAX representing the manufacturers thickest sponge for any particular rubber. Wonder if there are some more versions.

 

[NextLevel]

fair enough but of course we do have already 2 different versions of "MAX", the ITTF maximal allowed thickness of a rubber and your version of MAX representing the manufacturers thickest sponge for any particular rubber. Wonder if there are some more versions.

Can you reference the ITTF version of "MAX", I have only seen "MAX" from manufacturers and ITTF propose a regulation maximum thickness of rubber sponge and glue combinations on the blade.

 

[lodro]

Can you reference the ITTF version of "MAX", I have only seen "MAX" from manufacturers and ITTF propose a regulation maximum thickness of rubber sponge and glue combinations on the blade.

Yes, these are the 2 versions so far here mentioned

 

[NextLevel]

Yes, these are the 2 versions so far here mentioned

Yes but ITTF has never said "MAX" - "MAX" is a label applied by and to manufacturers for their rubbers. So what you wrote was incorrect. The only version of "MAX" is specific to manufacturer for a specific rubber, and that is if the manufacturer wants to use that term - some don't or hardly use it.

 

[lodro]

Yes but ITTF has never said "MAX" - "MAX" is a label applied by and to manufacturers for their rubbers. So what you wrote was incorrect. The only version of "MAX" is specific to manufacturer for a specific rubber, and that is if the manufacturer wants to use that term - some don't or hardly use it.

I see. Wonder why they always print it capital letters ?

 

[mattlamperouge]

I see. Wonder why they always print it capital letters ?

My Guess its that is just a design/translate thing. Look at the label... BLACK STICKY LOXA SPONGE etc. No deep reason

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

The max could be either Max Pleasure or Max frustration depending on one's skill set.

 

[NextLevel]

I see. Wonder why they always print it capital letters ?

Probably advertising to be honest - many people take pride in using Max sponge - they make fun of you if you don't.

 

[lodro]

Probably advertising to be honest - many people take pride in using Max sponge - they make fun of you if you don't.

Phew, lucky me, I just glued a brand new hurricane H3 on a new blade,
it is a 220-40 and of the olde kind. Remember when you needed a bulldozer to jank the cover-sheets of the sticky rubbers

 

[Der_Echte]

In describing the size, it appears they left out an "I".