ITTF World Team Table Tennis Championships Finals Busan 2024

[TensorBackhand]

Ahem, no human can. You see, a player can only play and hence win a maximum of 2 matches.

Of course it's a false narrative, which is your own. Stop claiming what people have not said.

Actually they have. But no biggie, just stop citing one off 2022 Harimoto wins against CNT players as "evidence" of how special Harimoto is.

Harimoto can get occasional wins against CNT players, so can Jang Woojin. So can Indian players ranked outside of 150. But this is not boxing, it's TT and you have to win the whole tournament to be champion.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Harimoto: Wang Chuqin is hard to beat!
Jang: Hold my beer...

Harimoto: well done, but can you do the same to FZD?

 

[NextLevel]

uh yeah. Pretty much defeats the false narrative "nobody can beat China. Only Harimoto can"

It's much harder to win 5 matches in a row in a full tournament.

Since everyone else has pointed out how you are making up stuff no one said, no need for me go pile on. If Jang beats both Wang and Fan, your comment will make sense.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Actually they have. But no biggie, just stop citing one off 2022 Harimoto wins against CNT players as "evidence" of how special Harimoto is.

Harimoto can get occasional wins against CNT players, so can Jang Woojin. So can Indian players ranked outside of 150. But this is not boxing, it's TT and you have to win the whole tournament to be champion.

lol

you know Zeio and I can only sight Harimoto and Feng Tienwei for achieving this feat in the past 20 years, and you obviously still don't understand why or just acting dumb now.

I am really suspecting your IQ level now, I didn't want to make it personal, but everyone can see the rackets are given to the players at the toss, but you come and say, oh FZD is warming up with his match racket.
Or you coming to ask people, how thick is the booster layer - where you can have many answers, because all of them will related to how you boost and how you glue. your answer on the apples is just as stupid, because there is no clear definition on the size of the smallest apple, versus the biggest apple and we all know the size could be over 5 folds different. So without definition, one can't have an answer. You obviously haven't written a thesis before so I won't blame you for that.

The feat of Harimoto in mens TT at least is unmatched in mens team and matched in womens teams.
If you are taking individual performances, then, you obviously don't understand teams table tennis at all.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Since everyone else has pointed out how you are making up stuff no one said, no need for me go pile on. If Jang beats both Wang and Fan, your comment will make sense.

well, TB can go celebrated his victory lap, I don't care, but I want Korea to win haha

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

So FZD plays normal, and wins
Lee needs to take Ma Long know - this is an opportunity than Jang taking it from FZD
obviously, to tensorbackhand, Jang can take FZD easily

 

[TensorBackhand]

Since everyone else has pointed out how you are making up stuff no one said, no need for me go pile on. If Jang beats both Wang and Fan, your comment will make sense.

See? here you go. You ARE implying that somehow Harimoto is "special" for winning 2 matches against CNT players in a team tournament. That is your position, right? Fine, I don't think that's crazy and you're free to think what you think.

But I just take the flip side of the coin. I see this week CNT losing 2 matches to Indians outside of 150, losing to Jang. It can happen once, and it can happen twice.

And I still haven't seen him win in an actual individual tournament.

 

[TensorBackhand]

So FZD plays normal, and wins
Lee needs to take Ma Long know - this is an opportunity than Jang taking it from FZD
obviously, to tensorbackhand, Jang can take FZD easily

No, where did I say Jang can beat FZD easily?

I think FZD is the favorite to win, but it's not crazy if he loses.

And if Jang wins against FZD, I certainly don't think that makes him "best non-Chinese" or some unique talent. He just had 2 hot games, which is a very good achievement for him. It doesn't prove that he's separate from the pack.

The point is, the best players are proven over large sample sizes. Not a 2 win hot-streak.

 

[zeio]

Actually they have. But no biggie, just stop citing one off 2022 Harimoto wins against CNT players as "evidence" of how special Harimoto is.

Harimoto can get occasional wins against CNT players, so can Jang Woojin. So can Indian players ranked outside of 150. But this is not boxing, it's TT and you have to win the whole tournament to be champion.

Citing it again for others to see how silly your comment sounds.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...pionships-finals-busan-2024.32987/post-443481

Ever since WTTC 1993 implemented the New Swaythling Cup System (bo5, 5 singles), there have been 4 players ONLY (3 men and 1 woman) who got 2 points off of China in the team event:
WTTC 1995 MT F Jan-Ove Waldner (29.6 years old)
WTTC 2000 MT F Jorgen Persson (33.8 years old)
WTTC 2010 WT F Feng Tianwei (23.7 years old)
WTTC 2022 MT SF Harimoto Tomokazu (19.3 years old)

Disregarding the match format, Harimoto at WTTC 2022 was still 4.2 years younger than Waldner back at WTTC 1989. Note also that in WTTC 1995 and WTTC 2022, both players were playing when their team was behind in match score (0-1 and 1-2). That's yet another reason why I do not consider ML as the greatest of all time.

 

[TensorBackhand]

Citing it again for others to see how silly your comment sounds.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...pionships-finals-busan-2024.32987/post-443481

You're free to your opinion. I have my opinion. However, our opinions are not mutually exclusive.

Was his 2022 WTTC performance excellent? Absolutely! I agree that he had a wonderful day on that single day.

Is he separate from the pack? No, if he were, it would show up in the rankings and his tournament wins. There are literally 3 foreign players ranked ahead of him. And he has literally won 0 big individual tournaments. Again, we are talking about sample size. He was the best player in the world on that single day. However over the past year, over the course of many matches, he is not the best player or even the best "non-Chinese" player.

If you show me a large sample size of Harimoto's dominance, then I will agree with you.

 

[NextLevel]

See? here you go. You ARE implying that somehow Harimoto is "special" for winning 2 matches against CNT players in a team tournament. That is your position, right? Fine, I don't think that's crazy and you're free to think what you think.

But I just take the flip side of the coin. I see this week CNT losing 2 matches to Indians outside of 150, losing to Jang. It can happen once, and it can happen twice.

And I still haven't seen him win in an actual individual tournament.

When you list the player who has done that in this century vs the men's CNT, let me know. No one is saying something as stupid as that one can't beat the CNT in a single match or play well against one player. Lim Junghoon beat Wang Chuqin in the Asian Cup afew years ago. Noshad Alamiyan beat Lin Gaoyuan at the same event. Yes, it is your prerogative to say stupid things. Just let me know the player who has won two matches against the CNT in a teams match in this century. And if only one player has, doesn't that show it is an incredibly hard thing to do?

Go troll someone else. I don't even want to understand what you mean about individual tournaments. It will just be similarly stupid stuff you made up as well.

 

[fore.n.back]

WCQ has his ups and downs, so he is very risky today at 5
Fan needs to take two and Ma Long needs to ensure it doesn't get to the 5th match.

bruh if Togami didn't lost himself at the 5th match China wouldn't have been able to win Chengdu 2022

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

You're free to your opinion. I have my opinion. However, our opinions are not mutually exclusive.

Zeio and many of us have facts, you only have tensorbackhand thought as opinion

Was his 2022 WTTC performance excellent? Absolutely! I agree that he had a wonderful day on that single day.

wow, first time i'm reading this haha

Is he separate from the pack? No, if he were, it would show up in the rankings and his tournament wins. There are literally 3 foreign players ranked ahead of him. And he has literally won 0 big individual tournaments. Again, we are talking about sample size.

I posted before, you ignored his highest world ranked point, and looking only at his lowest. He went through a bad patch that you don't care, and covid was involved. Sure, that is life and Harimoto needs to take it on.

He was the best player in the world on that single day. However over the past year, over the course of many matches, he is not the best player or even the best "non-Chinese" player.

so who is the best Chinese player. put Harimoto in another continent, do you think he will get that 500 points?

If you show me a large sample size of Harimoto's dominance, then I will agree with you.

the sample size is large enough, only if you wish to have the effort go read it.


have you not see how many "non HT" fans are fighting you for your really terrible "opinion" on Harimoto.
atleast now you finally starting to own up that 2022 Chengdu (IN CHINA) was very special.
PS, full of Chinese crowd and zero Japanese spectators too.
Talk about fairness, nothing about CNT is fair and HT took 2

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

bruh if Togami didn't lost himself at the 5th match China wouldn't have been able to win Chengdu 2022

JNT went into Chengdu with 1 super super, and 2 normal players
It was a very weak Japanese team
I don't think Togami would even have an idea on how to beat any of the 5 Chinese players

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

wow
lee 6-10 and takes game 3 12-10
Ma long under the heat now, behind 1-2

 

[TensorBackhand]

When you list the player who has done that in this century vs the men's CNT, let me know. No one is saying something as stupid as that one can't beat the CNT in a single match or play well against one player. Lim Junghoon beat Wang Chuqin in the Asian Cup afew years ago. Noshad Alamiyan beat Lin Gaoyuan at the same event. Yes, it is your prerogative to say stupid things. Just let me know the player who has won two matches against the CNT in a teams match in this century. And if only one player has, doesn't that show it is an incredibly hard thing to do?

Go troll someone else. I don't even want to understand what you mean about individual tournaments. It will just be similarly stupid stuff you made up as well.

Nah, my opinion is my opinion. You are free to have a different opinion.

As I said, Harimoto getting 2 wins on one single day doesn't prove anything. It was an extraordinary single day performance.

If Jang or Ayhika or anybody else gets 2 wins against CNT, that also doesn't prove anything. It just means they were the best player for that single day.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

Citing it again for others to see how silly your comment sounds.

https://www.tabletennisdaily.com/fo...pionships-finals-busan-2024.32987/post-443481

I have to add, Sweden was top back then and CNT was weak,

Singapore had more merit than the Swedes imo (but it was Chinese imports) but it was LSW falling apart that caused the lost.
Harimoto against all odds, did it in a vacuumed Chengdu where players were tested for covid twice a day. It was a mad house and CNT had really extra VIP than the rest.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Korean Team be like:

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

One thing you don't see in the public is training schedules on Table 1 prior to the tournament start date

Guess during WTTC 2023, who had the most hours on Table 1??
I have the photo somewhere, can't remember who sent it to me, CNT beat JNT by far

 

[longle]

Nah, my opinion is my opinion. You are free to have a different opinion.

As I said, Harimoto getting 2 wins on one single day doesn't prove anything. It was an extraordinary single day performance.

If Jang or Ayhika or anybody else gets 2 wins against CNT, that also doesn't prove anything. It just means they were the best player for that single day.

only in a good day that they can play 150% only so they can beat the top Chinese. In a normal day it's pretty much one sided