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Should rich people that donate more money to your local TT club be allowed to warm up before a tournament while poor players are not allowed to? Once a tournament starts the playing field has to be level. The tournament starts in the leadup to the actual play. There should be fairness at the point the teams arrive at an event regardless of deep pockets. It's a basic fairness issue.
Good question, so according to dingyibvs, China can have more hours on T1 and T2, 5 slots, compared to TPE, Korea, India getting 1 slot. because rich dad talks. This is some very disgusting logic if one was to just agree and accept it.
It is one thing to disagree but accept , vs, agree and accept. Which to me is a big problem in society today.

As the saying goes - The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is that good men do nothing.

not trying to be the saint, but dingyibvs has been ongoing challenging me on "ugly" CNT matters I presented.


So you're saying that you, Tony's Table Tennis, was able to get balls, but Germany and Japan can't? They need to try harder.
As I already said NZ can't. So NZ must try harder and also all those extra countries the NZ gave balls to from the 18 they received. what logic is that? disgusting logic.

yeah, the smaller guys just go to these tournament as "small guys", because its happening, doesn't mean it is alright.
there is maybe too many of you in the world and not enough of me in the world of TT to allow for this nonsense to prevail.


Yes, I'm saying they're not trying hard enough.
sounds like couch talk / keyboard warrior to me. If you have no real life experience dealing with ITTF, maybe you should keep your mouth shut.
Most MA I assisted are afraid of repercussions if "voicing too much".
Its easy for you to hide behind a computer and say "i'm saying they not trying hard enough".
You have no idea what efforts was put in to just, as I quote one of the team managers telling me "I'm doing everything within my powers for my players, even if it is a little bit, then its better than before".

maybe you forgot the hardship when you were younger.


I 100% agree with you, but he's talking about stuff like CNT getting the table made a year in advance, the balls months prior, and a contingent of 60 people. Those are things other countries can do too if they're willing to pay the money for it.
You seem to know a lot hey, so which other country has succeed in doing exactly what CNT has done??
Or according to your source, no one is wanting to pay the money for it?

This is our dispute.
I know countries who wanted to pay, but can't get.
But you telling me, they can pay to get.

So, you lying or am I lying?

Why can't they buy the balls? Heck, I bet they can buy them from the CNT if they wanted to. Anything's for sale for the right price in China.
again, your couch/keyboard wisdom bet they can buy the balls in bulk
this is the moment when I think you are stiring the same dog poop with me as before. this is what I call trolling now. Not the first time on CNT matters hey.

you are giving suggestions with what source? dingyivsoogle?
Let me ask you this question then, how did China gets the tables and balls? What is it that made them able to get them, but other countries can't?
so i gave an answer about DHS being CNT team member and that is already public knowledge.
no comment coming from you on this reply? why don't you say, japan or germany should try harder to get the same perks?

I never made the argument that things are fair. I'm making the argument that things are tilted toward China in every conceivable way because they're investing far more than any other country. They're taking every advantage that they can get.
And I didn't make the argument that things are fair or not, but sharing with the world as what tubozed pointed that I'm sure you 100% don't know is tilted toward CNT.
Have you even seen a practice schedule before? which again is heavy on table and ball.

and I laugh because ITTF said they want to make things fair about RACKET-TABLE-BALL, the triangle of making table tennis fun and fair for ALL (this is according to the ITTF article I posted if you even bothered reading).
my post was targetd to ITTF and not CNT, but being what I think you are as a CNT fan boy is doing, is getting the total wrong message. I am saying ITTF is setting rules and then going totally agains it.

So you jumping on your "let me piss Tony off mode (again)" to do just what? argue for the sake of every reply I post, which is back with facts or solid actual experience. with your, "i'm sure this, I think that".

Same time, you probably also offended all the MA for "not trying hard enough", or "not investing enough" (yeah, some had to do crowd funding to go to Durban, that is life as I said it, because you don't abuse poor people with making them go in circles to find match balls that each MA to receive as a norm. Maybe SA LOC has to do with it, but ITTF didn't answer.

What do real people do? like one of my coaching friend who say few smaller nations - who only have 1 person at the WTTC, no coach, no partner, to get those 3 guys to train together with them. Because the coach said, many years ago, he had that same problem and some other country took him in at a WTTC, and now it is the same time to look after them.

real people try and find solutions from what limited resource they have and want to share this to others to reduce unfairness, how about you? agree to what ITTF/CNT is doing and accepting it as "fairness"?
I do not agree, but I need to accept as I can't do anything about it. But if you tell me it is right, then good luck to force me to accept it is right.

so, i'm asking you
Which country can match China, or say 50% of China in terms of how early to get
1) DHS tables, DF balls,
2)the amount of time on training halls and main t1/t2 tables.
3) the "extra" pre tournament training hall, that the official guys who set up the WTTC hall comes and setup this "pre CNT hall".

3 easy questions. Many country also invests a lot in TT, Germany, Japan for starters. did GNT and JNT get DHS and DF special service too? if not, then how much more should they raise in MONEY to get it? since money does everything for you.

for the lesser countries, what do they need to do to get into the special VIP spot of CNT and its special treatment of which you are saying to everybody here that it is agreeable and acceptable, FAIR.

again, ITTF is the one saying triangle - to make the sport better for all.
go read it if you haven't bothered
 
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Retire, Harimoto! LOL
tesnorbackhand one said something about harimoto should change to H3 on FH

I think based on Hiyata, HT should change to H3 on FH
and maybe LP or antispin on backhand
 
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Good question, so according to dingyibvs, China can have more hours on T1 and T2, 5 slots, compared to TPE, Korea, India getting 1 slot. because rich dad talks. This is some very disgusting logic if one was to just agree and accept it.
It is one thing to disagree but accept , vs, agree and accept. Which to me is a big problem in society today.

As the saying goes - The only thing necessary for evil to triumph in the world is that good men do nothing.

not trying to be the saint, but dingyibvs has been ongoing challenging me on "ugly" CNT matters I presented.



As I already said NZ can't. So NZ must try harder and also all those extra countries the NZ gave balls to from the 18 they received. what logic is that? disgusting logic.

yeah, the smaller guys just go to these tournament as "small guys", because its happening, doesn't mean it is alright.
there is maybe too many of you in the world and not enough of me in the world of TT to allow for this nonsense to prevail.



sounds like couch talk / keyboard warrior to me. If you have no real life experience dealing with ITTF, maybe you should keep your mouth shut.
Most MA I assisted are afraid of repercussions if "voicing too much".
Its easy for you to hide behind a computer and say "i'm saying they not trying hard enough".
You have no idea what efforts was put in to just, as I quote one of the team managers telling me "I'm doing everything within my powers for my players, even if it is a little bit, then its better than before".

maybe you forgot the hardship when you were younger.



You seem to know a lot hey, so which other country has succeed in doing exactly what CNT has done??
Or according to your source, no one is wanting to pay the money for it?

This is our dispute.
I know countries who wanted to pay, but can't get.
But you telling me, they can pay to get.

So, you lying or am I lying?


again, your couch/keyboard wisdom bet they can buy the balls in bulk
this is the moment when I think you are stiring the same dog poop with me as before. this is what I call trolling now. Not the first time on CNT matters hey.

you are giving suggestions with what source? dingyivsoogle?

so i gave an answer about DHS being CNT team member and that is already public knowledge.
no comment coming from you on this reply? why don't you say, japan or germany should try harder to get the same perks?


And I didn't make the argument that things are fair or not, but sharing with the world as what tubozed pointed that I'm sure you 100% don't know is tilted toward CNT.
Have you even seen a practice schedule before? which again is heavy on table and ball.

and I laugh because ITTF said they want to make things fair about RACKET-TABLE-BALL, the triangle of making table tennis fun and fair for ALL (this is according to the ITTF article I posted if you even bothered reading).
my post was targetd to ITTF and not CNT, but being what I think you are as a CNT fan boy is doing, is getting the total wrong message. I am saying ITTF is setting rules and then going totally agains it.

So you jumping on your "let me piss Tony off mode (again)" to do just what? argue for the sake of every reply I post, which is back with facts or solid actual experience. with your, "i'm sure this, I think that".

Same time, you probably also offended all the MA for "not trying hard enough", or "not investing enough" (yeah, some had to do crowd funding to go to Durban, that is life as I said it, because you don't abuse poor people with making them go in circles to find match balls that each MA to receive as a norm. Maybe SA LOC has to do with it, but ITTF didn't answer.

What do real people do? like one of my coaching friend who say few smaller nations - who only have 1 person, no coach, no partner, to get those 3 guys to train together with them. Because the coach said, many years ago, he had that same problem and some other country took him in, and now it is the same time to look after them.

real people try and find solutions from what limit they have. you? agree to what ITTF/CNT is doing and accepting.
I do not agree, but I need to accept as I can't do anything about it.

so, i'm asking you
Which country can match China, or say 50% of China in terms of how early to get
1) DHS tables, DF balls,
2)the amount of time on training halls and main t1/t2 tables.
3) the "extra" pre tournament training hall, that the official guys who set up the WTTC hall comes and setup this "pre CNT hall".

3 easy questions. Many country also invests a lot in TT, Germany, Japan for starters. did GNT and JNT get DHS and DF special service too? if not, how much more should they raise in MONEY to get it? since money does everything for you.

for the lesser countries, what do they need to do to get into the special VIP spot of CNT and its special treatment of which you are saying to everybody here that it is agreeable and acceptable, and if you not in that money, thats not about fairness but about money
Hey Tony, I can see that you're passionate about this subject, so I hope you won't take my answers personally.

You asked what do they need to do, and the answer is to spend as much money on TT as China. Impossible, of course, which means they'll never get the VIP treatment China does. It's like asking what can Mozambique do to get as much say in the UN as the US or China, and the answer is to become as strong as them. Impossible.

You can fight as much as you want, but it won't change anything as long as the money doesn't change. The only reason we got things like 2 player limit in the Olympics is because China feared without other countries winning medals it'd no longer be an Olympic sport. China bankrolls this sport, and on the international stage, they'll get the final say.
 
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Hey Tony, I can see that you're passionate about this subject, so I hope you won't take my answers personally.
i'm not passionate about this subject, since its old news and nothing special. I covered it so many times on TTD already. and "we" (all the people in my circle), knows there is nothing anyone can do about it. But it doesn't mean, I need to be chicken about it and afraid to talk about it.

i just think you challenging me with zero source but just mere keyboard warrior buttons.
zero experience but big talk irritates me. that is all.
You asked what do they need to do, and the answer is to spend as much money on TT as China. Impossible, of course, which means they'll never get the VIP treatment China does. It's like asking what can Mozambique do to get as much say in the UN as the US or China, and the answer is to become as strong as them. Impossible.

You can fight as much as you want, but it won't change anything as long as the money doesn't change. The only reason we got things like 2 player limit in the Olympics is because China feared without other countries winning medals it'd no longer be an Olympic sport. China bankrolls this sport, and on the international stage, they'll get the final say.
so it is okay for the official table partner and ball partner to do special treatments for 1 country out of 200?

don't talk about history, just answer this 1 question.
seems like you trying to dodge this question by playing China as the victim
 
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reinforcement has arrived for the "talk"
 
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WT Finals
第一盘:孙颖莎VS张本美和 G1: SYS Vs Harimoto
第二盘:陈 梦VS早田希娜 G2: CM Vs Hayata
第三盘:王艺迪VS平野美宇 G3: WYD Vs Hirano
第四盘:孙颖莎VS早田希娜 G4: SYS Vs Hayata
第五盘:陈 梦VS张本美和 G5: CM Vs Harimoto
Following the book will the bane of the Chinese team. WYD had no business playing this match. WMY as one of the two singles ( even if she isn't gonna play singles in Paris) would have made things a lot easier.
 
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i'm not passionate about this subject
i just think you challenging me with zero source but just mere keyboard warrior buttons.
zero experience but big talk

so it is okay for the official table partner and ball partner to do special treatments for 1 country out of 200?

don't talk about history, just answer this 1 question.
seems like you trying to dodge this question by playing China as the victim
OK as in morally or ethically OK? Absolutely not. China the victim? They're the big bad 800lb gorilla.
 
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Guess, maybe not, espwcially the scoreline, but Gauzy was legitimate France #1 before the Lebruns showed up and the depression and work he has done on his game is harder to see since he doesn't get top billing anymore. But some may remember he beat the whole CNT B team last year to win a feeder. He would still be top dog in most countries in Europe. I think Kao got unlucky that he plays a worse version of the style the Lebruns currently play but doesn't have Gauzy to practice against to get a spinny counter and off the table creativity on a regular basis.
France may be doing themselves a disservice by pushing Alexis and Felix.

Felix and Gauzy should probably be their two singles choices for the Olympics. We'll see how tomorrow goes, but apart from that spark against a FZD that was unfamiliar with his serves, Alexis hasn't done anything special except beating up his brother whenever they compete. I don't think that's much better than what Gauzy can bring to the table.
 
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Miwa need to make sure she reduces unforce errors on BH rallies, and just hold it in.
She doesn't have the power as Hiyata, but she can have the speed, placement and endurance that could cause trouble to CM.

CM has made a lot of service receive errors, if that continues, BINGO
 
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France may be doing themselves a disservice by pushing Alexis and Felix.

Felix and Gauzy should probably be their two singles choices for the Olympics. We'll see how tomorrow goes, but apart from that spark against a FZD that was unfamiliar with his serves, Alexis hasn't done anything special except beating up his brother whenever they compete. I don't think that's much better than what Gauzy can bring to the table
i agree with you here
other than alexis being a good felix beater, he is a liability more than an asset for the team

But when you have siblings, would there be pressure to pick both, or you get none?
 
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