I think I unlocked the ultimate cheat code for Butterfly rubbers with Spring Sponge X

[_ak]

Normally out of the package you need to be really fracking mindful of your angles and whatnot you can't just close your eyes and let it rip like Dima says. The situation is the same with G09c, you can't just close your eyes and "yolo". It won't work.

I actually had this impression and it still surprises me.

"Soulspin No Tuning Air Box"

Why not to try helium to make the bat even lighter 🤣
Or N2O to make the player happy

 

[Airoc]

they just use glue without booster ... They say they don't boost

What one says and does are often very different things.
What one does in a video is another thing altogether.

As for Boll, his claims that he doesn´t boost surely lead to the conclusion you´ve made - pre-boosted rubbers.

As for Ovtcharov, there is a reason why a certain booster was called the "Dima booster" for a while.

 

[Airoc]

They require a layer of glue on the sponge before boosting

Some do, some don´t. it´s a matter of preference.
And a former world No. 1 puts glue beneath the booster on his forehand, but not his backhand.

 

[Airoc]

I wonder why CO2 is better.

That I don´t know.

What I know is that the adress of the place that some pros went to (or maybe they still do) for gas tuning (CO2) is the same as that of the seller of that pressure box.

 

[Zwill]

As for Boll, his claims that he doesn´t boost surely lead to the conclusion you´ve made - pre-boosted rubbers.

My conclusion is more like ESN rubbers are factory boosted anyway, what keeps ESN to boost it better for pros and what would keep Butterfly doing so too. I remember some fanatic players going out to buy Tenergies with a scale and looking for the heaviest since they assumed that has the most factory booster.

That I don´t know.

What I know is that the adress of the place that some pros went to (or maybe they still do) for gas tuning (CO2) is the same as that of the seller of that pressure box.

Interesting I mean the box works surprisingly well so they must be onto something.

 

[jammmail]

As for Ovtcharov, there is a reason why a certain booster was called the "Dima booster" for a while.

What booster is that - I've never heard of Dima boosting - is this well known in Germany?

 

[TackyForehand]

If you put your blade inside the device, will it also affect the wood ? I was wondering if compressed air can have bad consequences for the wood

Wood under compression would increase its density and therefore strength, but too much would splinter it. You would need around 630 psi to damage cypress wood. Harder woods can endure more pressure. Usage of the air box at the recommended pressure of 15 psi would not harm the blade.

 

[_ak]

What booster is that - I've never heard of Dima boosting - is this well known in Germany?

Dima's oil.
Google doesn't find anything

 

[iammaru]

Very interesting. I wonder if it affects the durability of the rubber (?)

 

[riemsesy]

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It looks like German native players did revealed a weak spot innate to the Soulspin product. An ugly bubble pops up directly on the spot that glue does not stick well. You need to re-glue rubber sheet over and over again.

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That rubber is 🤢

 

[jammmail]

My conclusion is more like ESN rubbers are factory boosted anyway, what keeps ESN to boost it better for pros and what would keep Butterfly doing so too. I remember some fanatic players going out to buy Tenergies with a scale and looking for the heaviest since they assumed that has the most factory booster.


Interesting I mean the box works surprisingly well so they must be onto something.

In Timo's gluing video he says that he uses the heaviest ones and if they are too light he sends them back. Also weights them all himself and records it.

 

[Airoc]

What booster is that

Dymax Maximizer

 

[jammmail]

Dymax Maximizer

Never heard of it - is it like Falco Tempo Long?

 

[Airoc]

I've never heard of Dima boosting

Well have you heard it about anybody else?
Who would freely admit it? Of course they could, because it cannot be detected, and what´s not proven can not be sanctionized. But the image would stick, "Yes I cheat".

So better stay quiet about it.

 

[Airoc]

Never heard of it - is it like Falco Tempo Long?

No, it´s an almost water-like liquid.

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It doesn´t do much on Chinese rubbers where obviously Chinese "oil" boosters give better results, but works a treat on German and Japanese rubbers.

 

[Zwill]

That Dymax Maximizer bottle looks awfully similar to the German made glue bottles. Coincidence? Don't think so. I wonder if it smells like fresh MX-P.

 

[riemsesy]

So the ultimate cheat code for Spring Sponge X is the Soulsping Tuning Air Box

it's tuning.. not NO tuning 🙃

 

[M4rc0H]

That Dymax Maximizer bottle looks awfully similar to the German made glue bottles. Coincidence? Don't think so. I wonder if it smells like fresh MX-P.

Not at all.
The main ingredient is said to be the chemical "Limonene" (but it doesn't smell like citrus fruit). The boosting effect comes from the vapor pressure of the "Limonene" (you can also see this nicely when you apply tea tree oil on a rubber (it bulges massively) - But please don't do that, the stuff is toxic (inhaling high doses).
The stuff is pretty aggressive and burns very badly on the skin.
It works pretty good as a bosster for ESN or Japanese rubbers (or chinese). If you also apply a thin layer of white oil, the boosting effect lasts "forever".

 

[Zwill]

Not at all.
The main ingredient is said to be the chemical "Limonene" (but it doesn't smell like citrus fruit). The boosting effect comes from the vapor pressure of the "Limonene" (you can also see this nicely when you apply eucalyptus oil on a rubber (it bulges massively) - But please don't do that, the stuff is carcinogenic.
The stuff is pretty aggressive and burns very badly on the skin.
It works pretty good as a bosster for ESN or Japanese rubbers (or chinese). If you also apply a thin layer of white oil, the boosting effect lasts "forever".

Oh wow, so many types of liquid for boosting I didn't know before.
I don't even like to use FTL or Seamoon and I'd hope I won't need to use them in the future so I won't try limonene. It kind of sounds like a cocktail if I have to be honest. 😅

 

[Tyce]

@M4rc0H which substance is carcinogenic according to you? I looked up both D-limonene and eucalyptus oil but didn't see anything pointing out it is carcinogenic