Ryu Seungmin: Korea's Women's Team Can Threaten Japan

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It's reported SYB is down with a shoulder injury.

"힘들지 않다"던 신유빈 투혼의 銅… 어깨근육 부분파열 진단
https://www.chosun.com/sports/sports_general/2024/08/19/QT563VARHISZHADTDOWML4S3WI/
신유빈은 스웨덴과의 8강전을 앞두고 파리올림픽 선수촌 내 대한체육회 치료실에서 남몰래 주사를 맞아가며 경기에 나섰지만 주변엔 일절 내색하지도 불평하지도 않았다. 신유빈은 올림픽 현장에서 부상 정도, 몸 상태를 물을 때마다 "괜찮아요. 선수들 원래 다 아파요. 안 아픈 선수는 없어요. 언니들도 다 아파요"라며 웃으며 답했었다. '일본 에이스' 하야타 히나와의 여자단식 동메달 결정전 막판 신유빈은 오른쪽 어깨를 만지며 불편한 기색을 보였고, 중계화면에 오광헌 여자대표팀 감독이 탁구공을 대고 어깨를 꾹꾹 눌러주는 모습이 포착되기도 했다. 대한체육회는 중국과의 단체전 4강전부터 전담 트레이너를 배치해 신유빈의 부상을 살폈다.

신유빈은 귀국 직후 검사차 찾아간 병원에서 어깨 근육이 부분파열됐다는 진단을 받았다. 오른쪽 어깨뼈에 염증과 함께 근육 일부가 파열된 상황, 신유빈 측은 "다행히 팔 근육이 발달된 덕분에 아주 심한 손상은 아니라고 한다. 회복을 위한 약간의 휴식이 필요하다"는 판단을 하고 있다. 한달 여의 치료와 휴식 후 복귀할 것으로 보인다. 실로 오랜만에 라켓을 내려놓고 짧은 휴식을 가질 계획이다.
Shin Yu-bin secretly received injections at the Korea Sports Council treatment room in the Paris Olympic Village ahead of the quarterfinal match against Sweden, but she did not show it to anyone around her or complain. Whenever asked about the extent of her injury or her physical condition at the Olympic site, Shin Yu-bin would smile and answer, “I’m okay. All athletes are sick. There is no athlete who is not sick. My sisters are all sick too.” At the end of the women’s singles bronze medal match against ‘Japanese ace’ Hayata Hinaga, Shin Yu-bin touched her right shoulder and showed signs of discomfort, and the women’s national team coach Oh Kwang-heon was caught on the broadcast screen pressing a ping-pong ball on her shoulder. The Korea Sports Council assigned a dedicated trainer to Shin Yu-bin’s injury starting from the team event semifinal against China.

Shin Yu-bin was diagnosed with a partial tear of her shoulder muscle at the hospital she visited for a checkup right after returning to Korea. Shin Yu-bin's side said, "Fortunately, it is not a serious injury because her arm muscles are well developed. She needs some rest to recover." She is expected to return after about a month of treatment and rest. She plans to take a short break after putting down her racket for the first time in a long while.
 
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and she is how old?
I have been involved with juniors table tennis for a while and I have not seen so much injuries to youngsters.
it will only get worse due to the scheduling.

I'm looking at the Austrian league schedule, 3 matches in 6 weeks (say play twice, so 6 matches)
compared to WTT schedule (which zeio adores and even hint there is no over loading in terms of scheduling), 6 weeks is easily 4 WTT events
factor in resting time, recovery time, this is how injuries are getting more and more serious
 
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and she is how old?
I have been involved with juniors table tennis for a while and I have not seen so much injuries to youngsters.
it will only get worse due to the scheduling.

I'm looking at the Austrian league schedule, 3 matches in 6 weeks (say play twice, so 6 matches)
compared to WTT schedule (which zeio adores and even hint there is no over loading in terms of scheduling), 6 weeks is easily 4 WTT events
factor in resting time, recovery time, this is how injuries are getting more and more serious
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It is stated...
 
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It is stated...
well, lets hope Shin gets injury clearance.
even players like Ma Long and WCQ gets ZPP, so WTT is very serious in not pitching.
 
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According to JJH, JWJ is mulling a hiatus from WTT events to focus on the various leagues, citing his losses to Calderano at Paris 2024 and Thakkar at ATTC 2024 as the last straw.

If true, the hope of Tieba users rests on AJH, Oh Junsung and then 이승수/李承洙/Lee Seungsoo...

听说张禹珍不打算再参加国际赛事了,是真的吗?
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9227128724
 
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SYB's post-match interview after 3-1 JCH at WTT CS Montpellier 2024, saying her injury sustained at Paris 2024 had gotten worse.

【インタビュー】韓国代表・シン・ユビン 同士討ちを制して初戦突破「五輪で怪我が悪化してしまい、久しぶりの大会になった」|WTTチャンピオンズ モンペリエ2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f0WFRV6kco
 
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New KTTA president (이태성) elected after RSM announced his resignation in September to run for the presidency of Korean Sport and Olympic Committee.

이태성 세아홀딩스 대표이사, 제26대 대한탁구협회장 당선!
https://www.koreatta.or.kr/community/article/detail.do?boardSeq=2&articleSeq=111369&_code=10215

韓国卓球協会、柳承敏氏が会長を辞任し、新会長にイ・テソン氏が就任。会長選で圧勝
https://world-tt.com/blog/news/archives/225094
柳承敏宣佈競選體育會會長
https://cb.yna.co.kr/gate/big5/cn.yna.co.kr/view/PYH20240911035800881
 
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Gunna hafta checkout who the heck is Lee Tae-Seong (이태성).

Zeio, thanks for posting this name stuff in Korean. I cannot know who is what or who flung the chuck with Romanized letters. hate that stuff. Native names should be in native, just as zeio did.
 
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LSS retires from KNT and passes the baton to the next generation.

탁구 ‘맏형’ 이상수의 아름다운 퇴장… “국가대표 반납”
https://www.newscj.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=3215208
대한탁구협회는 이번 종합선수권 남녀 단식 우승자에게 내년 국가대표로 자동 선발되는 혜택을 부여했다. 이에 따라 종합선수권 남자 단식에서 처음 정상에 오른 이상수와 3년 만에 여자 단식 정상을 탈환한 이은혜(29·대한항공)에게 남녀 국가대표 자동선발권이 주어졌다.

그러나 이상수는 종합선수권 남자 단식 결승에서 팀 후배 조대성을 3-2로 꺾고 우승한 직후 “더는 국가대표를 하지 않으려고 한다. 지금이 태극마크를 내려놔야 할 때라고 생각한다. 한국 탁구를 위해서는 내가 양보해야 오준성, 박규현 등 어린 선수들에게 더 많은 기회가 주어질 것”이라며 국가대표 자동선발권 반납 의향을 밝혔다.

이어 “여자탁구는 올해 파리 올림픽 단체전에서 동메달을 따는 등 성과를 냈지만 남자 대표팀은 그렇지 못했다. 다음 (2028년) LA 올림픽에서는 남자팀도 메달을 따면 좋겠다”는 희망도 전했다.
The Korea Table Tennis Association granted the benefit of automatic selection as a national team member next year to the winners of the men’s and women’s singles at this championship. Accordingly, Lee Sang-soo, who won the men’s singles for the first time at the championships, and Lee Eun-hye (29, Korean Air), who won the women’s singles after three years, were given automatic selection rights for the men’s and women’s national teams.

However, Lee Sang-soo said immediately after winning the men’s singles finals of the championships by defeating his teammate Jo Dae-sung 3-2, “I don’t plan on being a national team member anymore. I think now is the time to step down from the Taegeuk mark. For Korean table tennis, I have to give in so that younger players like Oh Jun-seong and Park Gyu-hyeon can have more opportunities,” he said, expressing his intention to return his automatic selection to the national team.

He continued, “The women’s table tennis team achieved results, including winning a bronze medal at the Paris Olympics team event this year, but the men’s team did not. I hope the men’s team will also win a medal at the next (2028) LA Olympics.”

LSS: I think this will be my last Olympics...

https://www.chosun.com/sports/sports_general/2021/03/22/MI74676DLNHFPPYLLAKYSDBN7E/

“I will fight with ambition… China would rather be burdened.”
[Tokyo Countdown] Lee Sang-soo, Jung Young-sik and Jang Woo-jin are aiming for gold in table tennis men’s group
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Five gold medals are at stake in the table tennis event of the Tokyo Olympics. The strategic sport of the Korean national team is a men's team competition with three members Lee Sang-soo, Jung Young-sik, and Jang Woo-jin. Not only the host country, Japan, but also China, which is regarded as the “absolute first-class”. The men's national team manager Oh Sang-eun said, "The first goal is to enter the medal zone, and I want to play against China once in the final."

The players of the national team, who made their ninth consecutive Olympic advancement at the beginning of last year, recently confirmed their participation in the Tokyo Olympics in different ways. Jang Woo-jin, the highest among domestic players with the world ranking of 12th, was automatically selected, and Lee Sang-soo took the first place in the selection. Jeong Young-sik got on the last train with the recommendation of the Competition Improvement Committee.

◇Let's go over the Chinese castle

The national team players who are about to enter the Jincheon Athlete's Village said, "I believe in each other" in a recent phone call.

“I believe in Sangsoo and Youngsik. I'll win the first edition. Thanks to the hyungs, I am confident too.” (Jang Woo-jin)

“Is Woojin like that? haha. We are the opposite. If we do well, then Woojin will unlock his potential and end it.” (Lee Sangsoo)

Starting from the Tokyo Olympics, the table tennis team competition has changed. Originally, the third out of matches 1-5 was doubles, but now doubles are played first, followed by singles in 2-5 matches. As the first match, the importance of doubles has grown, and fierce number fights are expected over the order in which they will go to singles. Lee Sang-soo and Jung Young-sik Jo recently won the World Table Tennis (WTT) Star Contender in Doha, Qatar, and rose to the top of the men's doubles world rankings. The ‘best scenario’ that the national team thinks is that they catch the first game and Jang Woo-jin beats the opponent's ace in the second game's singles.

The national team's goal is to win a gold medal over China. Jeong Young-sik said, “I want to stick with China properly. Director Yoo Nam-gyu and Yoo Seung-min, the chairman of the Korea Table Tennis Association, said, "I want to succeed." We just have to fight with ambition.”

◇3 people, 3 colors, one heart

The three players are similar in that they are right-handed, shakehand grip, and offensive type. The play style is noticeably different. Lee Sang-soo, the eldest of the national team, is offensive. He says “attack 80, defense 20,” so he strikes out and destroys his opponent. Jeong Young-sik, who has been breathing with him for a long time, stands out with his calmness. He is less glamorous than other players, but he is persistent and stable.

Korean table tennis suffered the pain of'No Medal in 28 Years' at the 2016 Rio Olympics. Lee Sang-soo and Jung Young-sik went on to join veteran Ju Se-hyuk in the team match at the time, but knelt to China in the semi-finals and lost to Germany in the bronze medal match. Lee Sang-soo said, "The Rio Olympics was a turning point that helped improve my table tennis skills," and said, "I still solve every game based on my experience at that time." Jeong Young-sik said, “After experiencing frustration at the first Olympics, I set the three elements of strategy, psychology, and physical strength, and made an effort constantly. He feels for himself that he is better than when he was in Rio.”

Woojin Jang, the youngest of the three, emerged as the team's next-generation ace with a sense of moment-to-moment with bold attack power. As such, it was also the subject of intensive analysis of the opponent in international competitions. He said, “I have felt the burden, but now I have regained my confidence.”

◇ Overcoming the Corona and aiming for the Olympics

Like other sports, table tennis had a lot of ups and downs due to corona. Ahead of the Olympics, the Busan World Championship, which was an opportunity to glimpse other countries' power in advance, was canceled. Chairman of the Table Tennis Association Yoo Seung-min also promoted joint training with China, but eventually failed. The players said, “As we were excited about the opening of the world championship in Korea, we are regretful too.”

Kim Taek-soo, who was preparing for the Olympics as the men's national team coach, was called by Chairman Yoo at the end of last year, and moved to the executive department of the association. Coach Oh said, “Our players are not backed by offensive power, but their lack of ability to withstand the defensive situation is their weakness.” “We will focus on training to switch from defense to offensive before the Olympics.”

Each athlete was asked about his determination to face the Olympics that had been delayed for one year due to the coronavirus.

“I think it will be my last Olympics. I really want to bring a medal to my wife, who has had a hard time watching babies since last year.” (Lee Sang-soo)

“As I got a difficult opportunity as a recommended player, I have to take more responsibility. Since the preparation period was long, we will prepare so that we do not regret it.” (Jeoung Young-sik)

“After the team members are decided, I have more responsibility and I feel like a team. It's my first Olympics, but I'll break my fears.” (Jang Woo-jin)
 
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#李尚洙退出韩国乒乓球队#34岁的李尚洙宣布退出国家队。李尚洙近日在韩国综合锦标赛中首次夺得男单冠军,根据惯例他将自动获得国家队资格,不过李尚洙选择了离开。他说:“我不想继续国家队生涯了。我认为现在是时候放下太极徽章了。为了韩国乒乓球,我必须做出让步,才能给吴晙诚、朴圭贤等年轻选手更多的机会。”

李尚洙让位梯队与波尔不让位梯队 (LSS gives way to echelon whereas Boll refuses)
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LSS retires from KNT and passes the baton to the next generation.

탁구 ‘맏형’ 이상수의 아름다운 퇴장… “국가대표 반납”
https://www.newscj.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=3215208

The Korea Table Tennis Association granted the benefit of automatic selection as a national team member next year to the winners of the men’s and women’s singles at this championship. Accordingly, Lee Sang-soo, who won the men’s singles for the first time at the championships, and Lee Eun-hye (29, Korean Air), who won the women’s singles after three years, were given automatic selection rights for the men’s and women’s national teams.

However, Lee Sang-soo said immediately after winning the men’s singles finals of the championships by defeating his teammate Jo Dae-sung 3-2, “I don’t plan on being a national team member anymore. I think now is the time to step down from the Taegeuk mark. For Korean table tennis, I have to give in so that younger players like Oh Jun-seong and Park Gyu-hyeon can have more opportunities,” he said, expressing his intention to return his automatic selection to the national team.

He continued, “The women’s table tennis team achieved results, including winning a bronze medal at the Paris Olympics team event this year, but the men’s team did not. I hope the men’s team will also win a medal at the next (2028) LA Olympics.”
If memory serves, they will only allow one naturalised player in the team moving forward right? If Lee is in, does that mean that Joo...
 
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Not sure now as they had 2 naturalized players for Paris 2024 - JJH and Lee Eunhye.
 
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and she is how old?
I have been involved with juniors table tennis for a while and I have not seen so much injuries to youngsters.
it will only get worse due to the scheduling.

I'm looking at the Austrian league schedule, 3 matches in 6 weeks (say play twice, so 6 matches)
compared to WTT schedule (which zeio adores and even hint there is no over loading in terms of scheduling), 6 weeks is easily 4 WTT events
factor in resting time, recovery time, this is how injuries are getting more and more serious
Hi Tony,

When players are trying for 120% result of the impact and it is only possible for 90-100... stuff gunna get torn.

We saw an explosion of that with over-aged adult H3 FH power pumper players 7-10 yrs ago as they could no longer make a plastic ball do what cell ball did... until they adjusted to taking ball earlier borrowing more power.

BTW, congrats to the TW U15 kid who defeated USA U15 No 1 in US Open final playing a game of almost no spin or pace when he wanted... brilliant. Kef Noorani never trains vs that stuff. If you go to 888 TTC near SFO airport where he and over half the US Team trains, you will see macho man speed/spin all day long.

@zeio correctly mentioned a few years back about RSM having to put KTTA into debt just to breath... to the tune of 2 BILLION KRW. That is under 2 Million USD... so many Korean Jaebeol companies execs have that much coin left in their pocket when they drop off their pants at the dry cleaners... should not be much work to get donations... maybe 1 or 2 TV shows could do it.
 
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SYB just donated 100 million won. Pocket change for her now with all those commercials after Paris 2024.

신유빈, 또 1억원 기부…“도움 필요한 이웃에게 온기 전해줘”
https://www.donga.com/news/Sports/article/all/20241224/130710886/1

신유빈, 사랑의열매에 1억원 쾌척…아너 소사이어티 가입 / 연합뉴스TV (YonhapnewsTV)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30IGvBvQn1s

그릴리 l 국가대표 신유빈은 그릴리 후랑크💛(🍪쿠키있음 30s)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vvg90G3i6aI
 
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Hi Tony,

When players are trying for 120% result of the impact and it is only possible for 90-100... stuff gunna get torn.
yep, but while you little injured, you continue to play, so by the end of the next 4 weeks, you at 80
and then 50 by end of the season and you have a lovely 2 weeks break (if you didn't take part in leagues or waldner cup), and that is called TT family time.

2024 is crazy for all of us, first time learning about this crazy schedule. Let's hope 2025 we can all handle it better

BTW, congrats to the TW U15 kid who defeated USA U15 No 1 in US Open final playing a game of almost no spin or pace when he wanted... brilliant. Kef Noorani never trains vs that stuff. If you go to 888 TTC near SFO airport where he and over half the US Team trains, you will see macho man speed/spin all day long.
I didn't follow the US Open this year, but I know there was one kid who won U11, U13, U15
if you talking about him, then he is only 11 years old

He belongs to the team (school) I'm very involved in now, but I'm more involved in 15~23 year olds. that kid is part of the 12~15 training group.
 
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Just how much value has RSM extracted from his Olympic gold?

Olympic Champion Ryu Seung-min Elected as Korean Olympic President
https://www.ittf.com/2025/01/15/olympic-champion-ryu-seung-min-elected-as-korean-olympic-president/

五輪金メダリストで前韓国卓球協会会長の柳承敏氏が韓国オリンピック委員会の会長に当選
https://world-tt.com/blog/news/archives/239479

xhs刷到柳承敏给金牌过生日,哈哈哈哈哈 (I saw over at Xiaohongshu that RSM celebrated the birthday of his gold medal, hahahahaha)
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9416746921
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(The MS gold medal in 2004 has guaranteed Ryu Seung-min a lifetime of wealth and glory)

吃瓜路人乐子人 老柳可能是除了🇨🇳之外最想看国乒拿金牌的人,因为能打败国乒的人越少,越是显得他这块金牌珍贵
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(Old Ryu may be the person who wants to see the CNT win the gold medal the most besides 🇨🇳, because the fewer people who can beat the CNT, the more precious his gold medal will become)
 
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Catching up. It turns out there were multiple allegations against RSM during his run for the presidency of KSOC.

Athens table tennis champion Ryu Seung-min formally inaugurated as nat'l Olympic chief
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/sports/2025/02/600_393204.html



스포츠윤리센터 제보 6건… 유승민 탁구협회장 재임 중 횡령·배임 의혹 불거져 (Sports Ethics Center Reports 6 Cases… Suspicions of Embezzlement and Breach of Trust Raised During the Term of Office of Yoo Seung-min, Chairman of the Table Tennis Association)
https://www.psnews.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=2078968

대한체육회장 선거일 코앞인데, 유승민 후보의 탁구협회 둘러싼 의혹 해명은 아직 (The election for the chairman of the Korea Sports Council is just around the corner, but there has been no explanation of the suspicions surrounding candidate Seung-min Yoo's table tennis association)
http://www.kdpress.co.kr/news/articleView.html?idxno=134929

젊은 체육인들, 변화 택했다… '체육대통령' 오른 '탁구 전설' (Young athletes choose change… ‘Table tennis legend’ becomes ‘sports president’)
https://www.edaily.co.kr/News/Read?newsId=01115206642038048&mediaCodeNo=258

유승민 "선수 바꿔치기 의혹에 분개…두 후보에게 사과 요청" (Yoo Seung-min "Outraged by the suspicion of player swapping... Request for apology from both candidates")
https://news.sbs.co.kr/news/endPage.do?news_id=N1007945676

한국 체육계, 대대적인 인적 쇄신 몰아칠 듯 [이종세의 스포츠 코너] (Korean sports world likely to undergo major personnel reshuffle [Lee Jong-se's Sports Corner])
https://www.mk.co.kr/news/sports/11220521



논란의 탁구 여자 국가대표 '바꿔치기의 진실' [유병철의 스포츠 렉시오] ( The Truth About the Controversial Women's National Table Tennis Team Switch [Yoo Byung-chul's Sports Lexio])
https://news.tf.co.kr/read/sports/2183968.htm
 
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LSS retires from KNT and passes the baton to the next generation.

탁구 ‘맏형’ 이상수의 아름다운 퇴장… “국가대표 반납”
https://www.newscj.com/news/articleView.html?idxno=3215208

The Korea Table Tennis Association granted the benefit of automatic selection as a national team member next year to the winners of the men’s and women’s singles at this championship. Accordingly, Lee Sang-soo, who won the men’s singles for the first time at the championships, and Lee Eun-hye (29, Korean Air), who won the women’s singles after three years, were given automatic selection rights for the men’s and women’s national teams.

However, Lee Sang-soo said immediately after winning the men’s singles finals of the championships by defeating his teammate Jo Dae-sung 3-2, “I don’t plan on being a national team member anymore. I think now is the time to step down from the Taegeuk mark. For Korean table tennis, I have to give in so that younger players like Oh Jun-seong and Park Gyu-hyeon can have more opportunities,” he said, expressing his intention to return his automatic selection to the national team.

He continued, “The women’s table tennis team achieved results, including winning a bronze medal at the Paris Olympics team event this year, but the men’s team did not. I hope the men’s team will also win a medal at the next (2028) LA Olympics.”
Going by his words, he's doing this for Korean Table Tennis. But given recurrent history of Korean stalwarts taking this step in the twilight of their career, I don't think this is a decision that he made solely cos I'm sure there's still a lot of money to be made representing Korea. There must have been some prodding from Oh Sang-eun and the members of the KNT architecture. And given the treatment that JJH and this other girl got from the coaches, this is not a baseless assumption to make.

Just over the border, this "prodding"would be dubbed as repressive by the hypocritical usual suspects.
 
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