Aliexpress Singles Day 2024

[Gtsnake]

They look reliable. I'm guessing they will almost certainly fall under Singles Day because of how much volume they do.

Usually the new stores or the low volume stores do not have privilege of participating in Singles Day.

Also, Aliexpress has a pretty good refund policy. If you are unhappy, you can almost certainly get a refund. I've gotten refunds for various reasons before (weight was off, quality was poor, a rubber bubbled, box was slightly pressed down in shipping, etc)

I can't say I agree with refunds. I've had instances of where the product never showed up. They required proof of nothing showing up with pictures.....

 

[AutomaticBackhand]

yes? Why do you prefer B2?

I heard that B3 has a healthier throw angle.

I agree, R9 and B3 might be good buys for Singles Day if I can find a good deal on them

B3 is already quite cheap, regularly ~20-24 Euro.
My main FH rubber for some time now, but after more than ~100 hours of playtime it's time to change.

I'd oder a new one if I didn't have an unopened LAC.

Haven't played with B2, but I'm not interested in it either, so can't compare it.


PS:
How is the Loki Telson China?
Thickness, flexibility, speed?
FH / BH ?

 

[TensorBackhand]

I can't say I agree with refunds. I've had instances of where the product never showed up. They required proof of nothing showing up with pictures.....

If the product doesn't show up, the proof is the shipping info. The shipping info will show that the product was undelivered, or returned to seller, etc.

This has happened to me before, and I received full refund.

 

[TensorBackhand]

B3 is already quite cheap, regularly ~20-24 Euro.
My main FH rubber for some time now, but after more than ~100 hours of playtime it's time to change.

I'd oder a new one if I didn't have an unopened LAC.

Haven't played with B2, but I'm not interested in it either, so can't compare it.


PS:
How is the Loki Telson China?
Thickness, flexibility, speed?
FH / BH ?

Can you compare B3 to H3 or LAC? What is the difference?

Loki Telson China is quite similar to HL5X. It's 6mm thick, definitely on the stiffer side vs my other inner carbon blades, speed is quite fast, feels quite hard.

I feel like its better BH blade as it has a harder feel and it is nice for smashes and punches. FH is quite powerful, but a bit lacking in feeling.

ps: I see Sanwei also has a very similar blade the Sanwei Vita

 

[TensorBackhand]

My friend also recently got the Stuor Apolonia ZLC clone. It is excellent. Fast but with a medium slightly crisp feeling, a good dwell-time and catch.

Any other Aliexpress blades worth getting?

I have Koto surface blades (Inner 75, Loki Arthur Pro ZLC),
Limba/Ayous surface blades (Stuor Harimoto, Sanwei F3 Pro, Loki Telson China, Sanwei CC)

 

[AutomaticBackhand]

Can you compare B3 to H3 or LAC? What is the difference?

Loki Telson China is quite similar to HL5X. It's 6mm thick, definitely on the stiffer side vs my other inner carbon blades, speed is quite fast, feels quite hard.

I feel like its better BH blade as it has a harder feel and it is nice for smashes and punches. FH is quite powerful, but a bit lacking in feeling.

ps: I see Sanwei also has a very similar blade the Sanwei Vita

B3 is less linear in the sense that it switches gears from slow to fast without much in the middle of it.

LAC is more linear.
It's like LAC sponge + topsheet is 1 continuous Chinese style rubber whereas B3 has that switch from 2nd to 4th gear, if that makes sense.
But I don't want to overstate it, it's just a rubber in the end 😂.

Also B3 "feels" softer when contacting the ball, whereas LAC "feels" harder, imo.
Not actual hardness, but just the feeling you have in your hand and racket.

Tbh, haven't played with H3 in a long time but they're not that different.
Been trying too many non-H3, H3 like rubbers.

 

[AutomaticBackhand]

My friend also recently got the Stuor Apolonia ZLC clone. It is excellent. Fast but with a medium slightly crisp feeling, a good dwell-time and catch.

Any other Aliexpress blades worth getting?

I have Koto surface blades (Inner 75, Loki Arthur Pro ZLC),
Limba/Ayous surface blades (Stuor Harimoto, Sanwei F3 Pro, Loki Telson China, Sanwei CC)

Some options:

Yinhe Pro 03.
XVT ZL 600 W968 Structure

Any Outer ZLC / Gold ZLC blades:
Stuor LYJ / ZJK
XVT ZL Koto

 

[TensorBackhand]

B3 is less linear in the sense that it switches gears from slow to fast without much in the middle of it.

LAC is more linear.
It's like LAC sponge + topsheet is 1 continuous Chinese style rubber whereas B3 has that switch from 2nd to 4th gear, if that makes sense.
But I don't want to overstate it, it's just a rubber in the end 😂.

Also B3 "feels" softer when contacting the ball, whereas LAC "feels" harder, imo.
Not actual hardness, but just the feeling you have in your hand and racket.

Tbh, haven't played with H3 in a long time but they're not that different.
Been trying too many non-H3, H3 like rubbers.

How about arc and rebound/speed?

 

[TensorBackhand]

Some options:

Yinhe Pro 03.
XVT ZL 600 W968 Structure

Any Outer ZLC / Gold ZLC blades:
Stuor LYJ / ZJK
XVT ZL Koto

The XVT ZL 600 sounds interesting. I've never had a XVT blade before, are they good as Stuor?

Is this 968 structure or Long 5X structure? The carbon looks a little close to the surface?

Also, their image seems to imply it is outer carbon blade? But the image looks like inner carbon

 

[TensorBackhand]

Also, whats the difference between ZL 600 and the XVT Hurricane Long V?

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805133285737.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.91.15df2auf2aufrl&algo_pvid=a9b0e932-1f1c-4c6d-9693-73772ed35f87&algo_exp_id=a9b0e932-1f1c-4c6d-9693-73772ed35f87-45&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%2126.17%2126.17%21%21%2126.17%2126.17%21%402103010f17285249759801553ecbba%2112000038486422275%21sea%21US%211644340096%21X&curPageLogUid=Tt49eJTFpzHo&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A

 

[Gtsnake]

If the product doesn't show up, the proof is the shipping info. The shipping info will show that the product was undelivered, or returned to seller, etc.

This has happened to me before, and I received full refund.

The shipping said it was delivered. So I got no refund.

 

[Grumms]

My friend also recently got the Stuor Apolonia ZLC clone. It is excellent. Fast but with a medium slightly crisp feeling, a good dwell-time and catch.

Any other Aliexpress blades worth getting?

I have Koto surface blades (Inner 75, Loki Arthur Pro ZLC),
Limba/Ayous surface blades (Stuor Harimoto, Sanwei F3 Pro, Loki Telson China, Sanwei CC)

I'd say Sanwei Vita or Loki W81 for inners. I'm curious about the Stuor wolf blades that are 50$.

Yinhe Pro 03 is interesting.

Which model is the Apolonia clone?

 

[TensorBackhand]

I'd say Sanwei Vita or Loki W81 for inners. I'm curious about the Stuor wolf blades that are 50$.

Yinhe Pro 03 is interesting.

Which model is the Apolonia clone?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtF1I7O

 

[haggisv]

The shipping said it was delivered. So I got no refund.

That really sucks. They probably delivered to the wrong house, or it got stolen from your door step.

 

[Grumms]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mtF1I7O

Thanks.

Honestly, how can we know that all Stuor blades are not the same ? There are plenty of Limba/Ayous/Carbon/Ayous models. We can't tell the difference. How's this blade is different from Harimoto ZLC clone ?

 

[AutomaticBackhand]

The XVT ZL 600 sounds interesting. I've never had a XVT blade before, are they good as Stuor?

Is this 968 structure or Long 5X structure? The carbon looks a little close to the surface?

Also, their image seems to imply it is outer carbon blade? But the image looks like inner carbon

I've only heard and read good things about XVT blades, even saw someone using it in a tournament.
Between the ZL 600 and the regular Long V, I'd choose the ZL 600.
Based on intuition and looks, tbh.

On the blade images it's clearly an inner blade, but it says "External" and is shown as Limba + Kevlar.

How about arc and rebound/speed?

Comfortable arc, I'd say medium / medium-high.

Rebound speed is what you'd expect.
Slow when slow, fast and dangerous when fast.

 

[Grumms]

Also B3 "feels" softer when contacting the ball, whereas LAC "feels" harder, imo.
Not actual hardness, but just the feeling you have in your hand and racket.

I feel the exact opposite.

 

[AutomaticBackhand]

I feel the exact opposite.

Happens

 

[vossi39]

I will only stock up H3 National and H3 Provincial if the price is right. In Spring sales I got the national for 46€ and provincial for 36€. This price would be my trigger point.

 

[Grumms]

Happens

I know, that's why it's so risky to ask someone's opinion about a rubber.