27th ITTF-Asian Table Tennis Championships 2024, Astana, 10/7-13

[NextLevel]

Lin rejected the time out call from the coach

He is not allowed to in a team competition. So it is still the coach's mistake.

 

[NextLevel]

I guess you know better than actual pros, coaches and players
What make you think he didnt call the timeout?

Maybe you must come and play or coach first and then publish your book

By rule, the team/coach has priority for timeout in team competitions and the individual does in singles competitions. So if he called the time out and his player didn't agree, then the coach betrayed his responsibility to the team by listening to the player or not knowing the rules.

 

[Vlad Celler]

WS R-64 live score where can I see?

 

[NextLevel]

ittf.com

WS R-64 live score where can I see?

27th ITTF-Asian Table Tennis Championships 2024 - Results

results.ittf.com

 

[Vlad Celler]

ittf.com

27th ITTF-Asian Table Tennis Championships 2024 - Results

results.ittf.com

Thank you, but I only have tables 1-4 shown... And the rest, 5-10?

 

[Vlad Celler]

27th ITTF-Asian Table Tennis Championships 2024 - Results

results.ittf.com

Here is more, but not all yet...

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

By rule, the team/coach has priority for timeout in team competitions and the individual does in singles competitions. So if he called the time out and his player didn't agree, then the coach betrayed his responsibility to the team by listening to the player or not knowing the rules.

hm.. I'm not sure what rule you have here.
each player and coach has they own relationship and way of doing things.
there are no rules as far as I know.

This isn't CNT where coaches are the boss.
in many countries, the players has a say in a lot of things, including the player calling the time out before the coach calls. You might say that is against the rule too?

Now, the coach for the team is LYJ's personal coach, because in Taiwan, no1's coach is also the team coach.
I am sure the coach and Lin knows what they are doing.

You guys probably didn't saw, but Lin rejected the time out by shaking his head when the coach asked him if he needs it.

again, different players and coaches works differently and I have seen this kind of "asking" many times, including in Bundesliga matches where the coaches and players are not that familiar with each other.

also, when the coach is not the players coach, it is also common to see players coach each other and not the coach.
you might then tell me that is against the rule.... but in real life, there is no rule, only formalities and how ever it works best for the players, they are doing what they prefer

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

I like to think they don't even know themselves which matches they are streaming.

EDIT: am I blind? Miyu and Miwa are playing next to Odo/Yokoi, but I don't see it on any livestream.

this is the time where WTT team is laughing at our comments on how useless the ATTC team is.

 

[NextLevel]

hm.. I'm not sure what rule you have here.
each player and coach has they own relationship and way of doing things.
there are no rules as far as I know.

This isn't CNT where coaches are the boss.
in many countries, the players has a say in a lot of things, including the player calling the time out before the coach calls. You might say that is against the rule too?

Now, the coach for the team is LYJ's personal coach, because in Taiwan, no1's coach is also the team coach.
I am sure the coach and Lin knows what they are doing.

You guys probably didn't saw, but Lin rejected the time out by shaking his head when the coach asked him if he needs it.

again, different players and coaches works differently and I have seen this kind of "asking" many times, including in Bundesliga matches where the coaches and players are not that familiar with each other.

also, when the coach is not the players coach, it is also common to see players coach each other and not the coach.
you might then tell me that is against the rule.... but in real life, there is no rule, only formalities and how ever it works best for the players, they are doing what they prefer

The rule is that if in singles competitions, players are allowed to ignore the coach and in team competitions, coaches/teams are allowed to override the player.

Of course, it is the coach's right to listen to the player. But sometimes, a coach knows better than the player. Well, they are still friends and that is what matters I guess.

 

[zeio]

WS R64
A. Mukherjee 3-0 Cha Su Yong
JJH 2-3 Pak Su Gyong
Hayata WO-3 Kamalova
Kim Kum Yong 3-0 S. Mukherjee

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

MLTT's Kheith Cruz, who has yet to play in MLTT, gave Batra a good battle losing 3-1, 14-12.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

So, Chuang is 99

The rule is that if in singles competitions, players are allowed to ignore the coach and in team competitions, coaches/teams are allowed to override the player.

Where is this rule listed?
and LYJ didn't ignore the call, it is very different if he ignored it. He rejected it by shaking his head when the coach asked him about it. There was no call, else once if it is called and umpires accepted, it will be used up.

This asking-rejecting has happened quite a few times already

Of course, it is the coach's right to listen to the player. But sometimes, a coach knows better than the player. Well, they are still friends and that is what matters I guess.

well, how they want to work, I guess they have talked about it before.

I personally have some disagreement with some things in the Lin camp, just like I have on ITTF, CNT, WTT etc. but the way they handle time out calling to me is a non issue. I would also have called time out at 10-8 or 10-9, but I am not lin and he felt it wasn't necessary at that time and his coach accepted.
Both of them needs to live on with that decision.

but to claim no time out was called by the coach, is very misleading and of course certain people will love to make use of not knowing the truth to lead certain view points.

One head coach told me today, when Lin was progressing, he is attacking every player in front of him.
now he is at the top, everyone is attacking him and on top of that, attacks will come from all angles and even off the table.

Lin would at times train at this head coaches base even 3 weeks ago. Lin trained at the base since he was 10 years old, so this head coach knows him very well.

PS here is Mr Coach and his cap if any one else wants to make fun of him.
PS, Lin's previous coach was in the hall that day too, haha

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

MLTT's Kheith Cruz, who has yet to play in MLTT, gave Batra a good battle losing 3-1, 14-12.

she is improving so fast, good to see a future prospectus coming from The Philippines

 

[zeio]

What a pain.

https://documents.ittf.sport/sites/default/files/public/2024-02/2024_ITTF_Statutes_clean_version.pdf
3.4.4 Intervals

...

3.4.4.2 A player or pair may claim one time-out period of up to 1 minute during an
individual match.
3.4.4.2.1 In an individual event the request for a time-out may be made by the
player or pair or by the designated adviser; in a team event it may be
made by the player or pair or by the team captain.
3.4.4.2.2 If a player or pair and an adviser or captain disagree whether a time-out
is to be taken, the final decision shall be made by the player or pair in an
individual event and by the captain in a team event.

 

[pongfugrasshopper]

WS R64
A. Mukherjee 3-0 Cha Su Yong
JJH 2-3 Pak Su Gyong
Hayata WO-3 Kamalova
Kim Kum Yong 3-0 S. Mukherjee

From Hina's account on X:

Thank you so much for your continued support.
I had resumed training in preparation for competing in the Asian Championships, but while I was training there I hurt my arm again and had to withdraw from my singles match.

To all the fans who were looking forward to the match, I apologize for causing you concern 🙇‍♂️
I will do my best to make a full recovery so that I can return to the court in good health.

 

[NextLevel]

What a pain.

https://documents.ittf.sport/sites/default/files/public/2024-02/2024_ITTF_Statutes_clean_version.pdf
3.4.4 Intervals

...

3.4.4.2 A player or pair may claim one time-out period of up to 1 minute during an
individual match.
3.4.4.2.1 In an individual event the request for a time-out may be made by the
player or pair or by the designated adviser; in a team event it may be
made by the player or pair or by the team captain.
3.4.4.2.2 If a player or pair and an adviser or captain disagree whether a time-out
is to be taken, the final decision shall be made by the player or pair in an
individual event and by the captain in a team event.

Thanks, I appreciate it.

 

[Tony's Table Tennis]

What a pain.

https://documents.ittf.sport/sites/default/files/public/2024-02/2024_ITTF_Statutes_clean_version.pdf
3.4.4 Intervals

...

3.4.4.2 A player or pair may claim one time-out period of up to 1 minute during an
individual match.
3.4.4.2.1 In an individual event the request for a time-out may be made by the
player or pair or by the designated adviser; in a team event it may be
made by the player or pair or by the team captain.
3.4.4.2.2 If a player or pair and an adviser or captain disagree whether a time-out
is to be taken, the final decision shall be made by the player or pair in an
individual event and by the captain in a team event.

This is for umpires to accept the calling of the time out.
should I highlight - final decision?

how players and coaches work, I won't expect OB players like yourself to understand.
you gotten too used to being an armchair teacher for various pros and coaches.
i would love Aruna to give you a nickname

 

[NextLevel]

So, Chuang is 99

Where is this rule listed?
and LYJ didn't ignore the call, it is very different if he ignored it. He rejected it by shaking his head when the coach asked him about it. There was no call, else once if it is called and umpires accepted, it will be used up.

This asking-rejecting has happened quite a few times already


well, how they want to work, I guess they have talked about it before.

I personally have some disagreement with some things in the Lin camp, just like I have on ITTF, CNT, WTT etc. but the way they handle time out calling to me is a non issue. I would also have called time out at 10-8 or 10-9, but I am not lin and he felt it wasn't necessary at that time and his coach accepted.
Both of them needs to live on with that decision.

but to claim no time out was called by the coach, is very misleading and of course certain people will love to make use of not knowing the truth to lead certain view points.

One head coach told me today, when Lin was progressing, he is attacking every player in front of him.
now he is at the top, everyone is attacking him and on top of that, attacks will come from all angles and even off the table.

Lin would at times train at this head coaches base even 3 weeks ago. Lin trained at the base since he was 10 years old, so this head coach knows him very well.

PS here is Mr Coach and his cap if any one else wants to make fun of him.
PS, Lin's previous coach was in the hall that day too, haha

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Hopefully you can read zeio's post and read the rule. The rule was made with the assumption that for singles or doubles, the players are responsible but for team events, the leader of the team should make the best decisions for the team. It has nothing to do with China or Japan or Sweden and how they handle timeouts. It has to do with the fact that the coach or captain should know what is best for his team when dealing with such situations as he had the responsibility to get his team to win. There is a reason why coaches are also often given medals in team events.

 

[mikeytt]

Kenji matsudaira 3-1 Cho Daesong, happy for kenji

 

[NextLevel]

This is for umpires to accept the calling of the time out.
should I highlight - final decision?

how players and coaches work, I won't expect OB players like yourself to understand.
you gotten too used to being an armchair teacher for various pros and coaches.
i would love Aruna to give you a nickname

No, I am an OB player and we perfectly understand. The point here is that we think the coach is wrong. You can say the coach was right and was managing his player. It is okay to disagree. But cut this stuff out about it being about OB players. The coach should have noted that his player was nervous after serving off the table and forced him to take the timeout. What was the point in using it when the game was already over in the 5th set?