Any top level Pro using all wood blade?

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The french school: "slow" all wood blades + fast rubbers, it was that way for Gatien Chila Eloi Legout and the same with Lebesson and Gauzy before he switched to the Andro Syntheliac VCI. The reason he did the switch was because of hybrid rubbers slowing the racket. The Lebrun are from a newer generation of players, they've used ALC and inner ZLC blades since their U11 years.

The french are taught TT like that: feel and control first.
But feel is not always better with an allwood… (And control is the inverse of speed…)

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They not forced to use this super fast rubbers. There are many slow rubbers
I have read that for Looping a slower blade and faster rubber is better than vice versa. Of course pros are not using really slow blades, even those inner blades aren't slow but I could see blades getting a little slower when even faster rubbers are available.
 
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I have read that for Looping a slower blade and faster rubber is better than vice versa. Of course pros are not using really slow blades, even those inner blades aren't slow but I could see blades getting a little slower when even faster rubbers are available.
A blade where the ball stays long is essential and a grippy rubber. A rubber with lots catapult increases the power mostly speed where the grippiness increases spin. Grip & Catapult = deadly.
But it comes with a cost in form of control…

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But feel is not always better with an allwood… (And control is the inverse of speed…)

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Ask Simon Gauzy then, he's been trying carbon blades before switching to hybrid rubbers and he didn't feel the ball. If it was for the feeling only, he would still play allwood, he has sacrificed the feel for the speed because of hybrid rubbers.
 
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Ask Simon Gauzy then, he's been trying carbon blades before switching to hybrid rubbers and he didn't feel the ball. If it was for the feeling only, he would still play allwood, he has sacrificed the feel for the speed because of hybrid rubbers.
It depends on so much else… You can’t categorically say that one feels better than another. If you follow my posts you know which blade(s) I think feels the best (except for a 1 ply hinoki).

Gauzy is one person only… and who is to say how many blades he tested…

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I am #5555 in the world and i use all wood blade, you can consider me the top 50 upside down :LOL:
you pretty highly world ranked hey
consider there is a million players in China.

30 provinces, each prov having 100 provincial players (all age groups).
just China alone, for past 10 years, have maybe 50000+ provincial level players.
 
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you pretty highly world ranked hey
consider there is a million players in China.

30 provinces, each prov having 100 provincial players (all age groups).
just China alone, for past 10 years, have maybe 50000+ provincial level players.
I don't care, i can beat some of them, so those 40000+ are all top class then, if no one claiming #5555 in WR then i am taking it ;):ROFLMAO:
 
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It isn’t that the faster blades have less control or the faster rubbers are too bouncy.

It’s us not worthy to wield those swords.
You either can handle them or you can not… It’s as easy as that…

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Where are you at?
Dubai? Been on the airport a few times…

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No i am not in the airport....
Nor i am in Dubai, i live in another city, one day if you plan to come and decided to visit my city let me know, i have the access to a table tennis room here.
 
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No i am not in the airport....
Nor i am in Dubai, i live in another city, one day if you plan to come and decided to visit my city let me know, i have the access to a table tennis room here.
I will be hard to find to time in my club, but there are places we can plan should you come here…

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But can they still get that wood anymore? 🤔
Hinoki is fast because it's extremely springy, but it's hardly unique in that regard. There are numerous alternatives -- e.g: European cypress, Asian cypress, Port oxford cedar, western red cedar, Sköllawood, gabon/okoume, ...even select pieces of low density Huon pine can sometimes come close (There are probably many others out there too).

Mohamed El-Beiali uses Stiga Ebenholz NCT V, a 5 ply all wood blade, he’s no 47 now
He Zhoujia uses Rosewood NCT VII.
Ive seen rumors that Koki Niwa was forced to use his carbon blade instead of Niwa Wood which he liked more.
Thanks so much for posting this!! 😎😎 Stiga's hardwood blades above are a really good example of the other path to speed with wood, and I'm super stoked to learn these blades are competitive at international level.

Most Ebony and rosewood species are extremely dense and hard woods, with hugely high Janka scores and high inherent mass.When you're using this class of hardwoods, a composite layer is entirely unnecessary. Blades like the Ebenholtz lack absolutely nothing for hitting power, as very high density wood veneers are typically stronger and stiffer than 0.35mm of carbon fibre could ever be (or at least most Australian hardwoods are anyway 😂😂).

[NB: As aside point, I gotta say, these style of hardwood blades are horribly underrated IMO. People still go crazy over novel composite fabrics in a blade, while novel hardwoods often don't get a look in. This is quite nuts frankly given the strength to weight ratios some of these woods have.

I'm actually hoping to do my bit to reverse this trend eventually. I have a stack of high density hardwood blades like the Ebenholtz in development currently, just using some of Australia's premier hardwoods as an outer instead of ebony or rosewood. So far the biggest barrier to entry has been me being utterly spoiled for choice when it comes to outer woods (especially here in WA 🤣🤣) It's actually taking quite a bit of time to sort through the various options and figure out he best wood combos. I'm convinced however that the end result will be worth it. 😎😎 ]
 
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Hinoki is fast because it's extremely springy, but it's hardly unique in that regard. There are numerous alternatives -- e.g: European cypress, Asian cypress, Port oxford cedar, western red cedar, Sköllawood, gabon/okoume, ...even select pieces of low density Huon pine can sometimes come close (There are probably many others out there too).



Thanks so much for posting this!! 😎😎 Stiga's hardwood blades above are a really good example of the other path to speed with wood, and I'm super stoked to learn these blades are competitive at international level.

Most Ebony and rosewood species are extremely dense and hard woods, with hugely high Janka scores and high inherent mass.When you're using this class of hardwoods, a composite layer is entirely unnecessary. Blades like the Ebenholtz lack absolutely nothing for hitting power, as very high density wood veneers are typically stronger and stiffer than 0.35mm of carbon fibre could ever be (or at least most Australian hardwoods are anyway 😂😂).

[NB: As aside point, I gotta say, these style of hardwood blades are horribly underrated IMO. People still go crazy over novel composite fabrics in a blade, while novel hardwoods often don't get a look in. This is quite nuts frankly given the strength to weight ratios some of these woods have.

I'm actually hoping to do my bit to reverse this trend eventually. I have a stack of high density hardwood blades like the Ebenholtz in development currently, just using some of Australia's premier hardwoods as an outer instead of ebony or rosewood. So far the biggest barrier to entry has been me being utterly spoiled for choice when it comes to outer woods (especially here in WA 🤣🤣) It's actually taking quite a bit of time to sort through the various options and figure out he best wood combos. I'm convinced however that the end result will be worth it. 😎😎 ]
i'm not sure what is Stiga's strategy, but they stood away from composite for many years and lost a lot of market share when composite too favorite with the big ball.
end of the day, Stiga haven't recovered that portion imo
 
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