HOT DAMN !!! This coach teaches FH Slow/Heavy loop exactly every key point Der_Echte values !!!

[Der_Echte]

This coach breaks down the how and WHY to FH slow loop and emphasizes the very things I hold important about slow/heavy FH looping.

 

[blahness]

Guy is Chen Hao from Fang Bo's Quanshibao team who had a league win against Aruna some time ago. He teaches very practical table tennis. I particularly like his fast long serve tutorial (both hook sideunderspin and heavy sidetopspin), i pretty much copied it and it works wonders.

Shouts way too loudly in friendly matches though lol but it is funny to watch.

 

[turbozed]

Guy is Chen Hao from Fang Bo's Quanshibao team who had a league win against Aruna some time ago. He teaches very practical table tennis. I particularly like his fast long serve tutorial (both hook sideunderspin and heavy sidetopspin), i pretty much copied it and it works wonders.

Shouts way too loudly in friendly matches though lol but it is funny to watch.

He's UNBELIEVABLE!

I think his celebrations are pretty hilarious. Instead of acting intimating, get your opponent off his game by just being ridiculous lol

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

This coach breaks down the how and WHY to FH slow loop and emphasizes the very things I hold important about slow/heavy FH looping.

Hot damn halleluyah! This is godsent! I'm gunna rules em all my club members with this. They're all gunna be my B 1 t c H 3 s ! after I employ thia ultra awesome stroke.

 

[haggisv]

This coach breaks down the how and WHY to FH slow loop and emphasizes the very things I hold important about slow/heavy FH looping.

This video is really good! Slow spinny loop is my favourite shot too, although I think his 'slow' is lot faster than my 'slow'.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

btw, where is the slow part?

 

[jk1980]

Pretty funny when he tells you to let the ball drop below table level and then demonstrates it at the end always hitting the ball above table level.

 

[Amayzde]

I'd like to add this video as well. Makes looping half-long balls so much easier.

 

[vossi39]

I'd like to add this video as well. Makes looping half-long balls so much easier.

One of the videos which I never really understood. How should your wrist now move, during VH Loop?

 

[NetProphet]

Pretty funny when he tells you to let the ball drop below table level and then demonstrates it at the end always hitting the ball above table level.

I saw exactly that also and was confused.
But even the 12 loops at the beginning are all above the table height 🤷
It didn't sound right anyway, below the table is too low for me to execute, unless I'm supposed to get even lower!
I've found that about table height or just above is the sweet spot for me, as he demonstrates around 20 times! 😂

 

[Yurifi]

I saw exactly that also and was confused.
But even the 12 loops at the beginning are all above the table height 🤷
It didn't sound right anyway, below the table is too low for me to execute, unless I'm supposed to get even lower!
I've found that about table height or just above is the sweet spot for me, as he demonstrates around 20 times! 😂

mostly because when you advance your play and technique further, this under the table slow loop becomes too slow. but too start and learn looping, this is the same way I was learning it in 1990’s a junior player. once you nail it, you can start taking shots earlier. actually, you have to, because you become to slow for further play …
I know this because I am in process of ”recalibrating” my backhand loop and I am trying to go from the beginning and when we play for points, I am too slow with backhand … but once I will nail it again (one wouldn’t think 20 years of absence from table tennis does so much damage) I will shorten everything.

 

[_ak]

I loved slow loop in celluloid ball era and it still brings me many points, however it's much easier to kill now after certain level.

 

[Yurifi]

I loved slow loop in celluloid ball era and it still brings me many points, however it's much easier to kill now after certain level.

I was quite worried when I got back into the game in the end of 2023 because I was so out of the game, that I didn't even know there was a change in ball technology. I didn't even know that speedglues were forbidden! 😂

and when people told me what this plastic ball did ... I was worried it would kill my game, but so far - well the technology also went ahead and yes, some things did change due to ball change but new rubbers and blades kind of blurred all this changes so they are not as palpable as they could be.

or I got lucky and was away from the game so long I cannot sense much change ...

 

[Amayzde]

Pretty funny when he tells you to let the ball drop below table level and then demonstrates it at the end always hitting the ball above table level.

I saw exactly that also and was confused.
But even the 12 loops at the beginning are all above the table height 🤷
It didn't sound right anyway, below the table is too low for me to execute, unless I'm supposed to get even lower!
I've found that about table height or just above is the sweet spot for me, as he demonstrates around 20 times! 😂

I would say that looping below the table is a good starting point. Because if you can loop it consistently that late, you develop the technique to also consistently loop it above the table and everything in between.

Also, the lower you let the ball drop, the more you have to pull the ball upwards = more spin. So depending on your playing style you can adjust your timing.

 

[backspacer]

He's UNBELIEVABLE!

I think his celebrations are pretty hilarious. Instead of acting intimating, get your opponent off his game by just being ridiculous lol

I would hire him just for the trashtalk alone.

 

[Zezima]

I struggle with these kind of videos especially from this channel. I have seen many other videos where they talk about a concept when to hit and also how - The way they demonstrate it doesn´t match with how they actually play the stroke out.

 

[ttarc]

I struggle with these kind of videos especially from this channel. I have seen many other videos where they talk about a concept when to hit and also how - The way they demonstrate it doesn´t match with how they actually play the stroke out.

Yep, sometimes one has to read between the lines or watch a couple of other videos to understand what they actually mean.

FH wrist action when looping: Wang Kai vs Fang Bo

 

[NetProphet]

I would say that looping below the table is a good starting point. Because if you can loop it consistently that late, you develop the technique to also consistently loop it above the table and everything in between.

Also, the lower you let the ball drop, the more you have to pull the ball upwards = more spin. So depending on your playing style you can adjust your timing.

It's a sound concept and I don't disagree.
I've certainly looped late as he describes on plenty of long pushes and I'll even try it this evening (letting the ball drop lower) along with my regular looping v backspin.

I just found it amusing that the thing he explains 2 or 3 times is not the thing he demonstrates 20 times.
Not ideal if you're doing coaching videos and maybe not so helpful if you're just starting to learn the stroke.

Another thing though, when it's a tricky half-long push, I find it much easier to loop that at table height or just above rather than letting it drop below the table when it's that close to the edge!
Be interested in your thoughts on that. I find it much easier to loop a lower ball when it's longer off the table.
Now he's obviously an amazing player and can do just about everything and anything but I would never show beginners to loop half long at that low point.
But I might just be wrong!!! 🤷

 

[NetProphet]

Yep, sometimes one has to read between the lines or watch a couple of other videos to understand what they actually mean.

FH wrist action when looping: Wang Kai vs Fang Bo

Or, if a coach cannot actually demonstrate what they are saying, just ignore them and find a coach who can 😉
I need to see him do his 20 loops from below the table at that close proximity how he describes before I'd listen to another word...
I'd be off to watch other videos very quickly!

 

[Amayzde]

It's a sound concept and I don't disagree.
I've certainly looped late as he describes on plenty of long pushes and I'll even try it this evening (letting the ball drop lower) along with my regular looping v backspin.

I just found it amusing that the thing he explains 2 or 3 times is not the thing he demonstrates 20 times.
Not ideal if you're doing coaching videos and maybe not so helpful if you're just starting to learn the stroke.

Another thing though, when it's a tricky half-long push, I find it much easier to loop that at table height or just above rather than letting it drop below the table when it's that close to the edge!
Be interested in your thoughts on that. I find it much easier to loop a lower ball when it's longer off the table.
Now he's obviously an amazing player and can do just about everything and anything but I would never show beginners to loop half long at that low point.
But I might just be wrong!!! 🤷

I mean if its that close to the edge I'd rather save my hand and racket and play a flick or push instead depending on the incoming ball.

Not only are you risking to hit the table, but if you manage to succesfully pull a ball that that low, that close to the table it will be (most likely) a low quality attack that lands too close to the net on the opponents side and gets punished easily.