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I played a Giant RR this weekend - 8 matches yesterday (Saturday), 6 matches today (Sunday). Went 6-2 yesterday, losing 2-3 to two kids. the last match, against the better kid, taught me a couple of things that I thought I might take into today. Basically, since my coach is not around and I can't train much anymore since there are no clubs close by, I am regressing back into my old spin style and that might be the best I can do. But the spin style is still effective but against certain players.

Today, because I went 6-2 yesterday, I was a 3rd seed in my group but the highest rated player (only one two top seeds won their groups, I was in a group with a top seed that was not the top seed from the prelim round). I played the top seed and won a close match 3-2, 11- 9 in the 5th. He is a Seemiller style hitter and sidespinner with anti on the backhand and he blocks well enough to cause many loopers problems. I used to beat him easily in the past but his block consistency and serves have gotten better. I couldn't even p[lay though lets in this match and had to call them, it was that tight lol.

I then played a pips out guy I had played many times before and usually he wins a game off me. I was hoping today would be different but no, he won the first game 11-5 after I was up 4-0 and then goes up in game 2 like 5-1 or something ridiculous if not that. I just tried to claw my way through it because going down 0-2 would have put a lot of pressure on my preferred approach to playing pips which is to attack serves, hits and chop blocks with spin drives and to only push when consistency is absolutely required. The heavens smilled upon me as I managed to come back to win the second game 11-9, won the third game 11-3, but then got caught up and even had a deuce in game 4. But I won 12-10 with a good over the table topspin that was made possible by my extra long arms.

Last match was against a lefty. If I won, I would top the group. IF I lost, there would be a 3 way tie for first and I would almost definitely advance second as the Seemiller blocker had beaten my opponent 3-0 already, I experienced a similar situation about a couple of weeks ago at a tournament at this same club so I was determined not to let it happen again. I played a lefty I had played before and beaten easily when I played him prior. I learned the importance of having observers and how it can make a difference to have a match coach. His match coach told him quite simply to stop playing wide with his serves and to serve more into my middle. After losing the first game 11-4, he lost the second game 11-9. And a combination of some good play and my frustration got him the next two games at 11-8 and 11-9. I then went into defensive lockdown mode and won the last game. But some food for thought for future matches. I do have a playing partner who is a lefty who does this to me sometimes too with a different serve and I usually move to use the forehand but today I was lazy because of exhaustion from the previous day.

In the next round quarterfinal, I play a kid I had lost to the prior day. The main thing that cost me points was bad serve return. I would push his side top serves, or try to attack them hard and then loop the ball off the table or pop them up for third ball kills. And then sometimes, I would push decently into his backhand but he had a pivot to loop the ball inside point into my backhand and he hit some insane shots and was also consistent. Today I developed a different game plan. I decided to roll almost every serve into his backhand and just put pressure on his backhand with mine and challenge him to either pivot to break the pressure or figure out how to rally backhand to backhand against my consistent topspin. There was absolutely no mystery what I was doing or where the ball was going. I just was tired of having to pretend that I needed to run around and hit forehands and just reverted to my old 1800 game of serve to backhand with backhand, loop to backhand with backhand, raise spin and speed if their backhand is not better than mine and if you cannot put the ball on my forehand, I will break you. It worked surprisingly well, A 2-3 loss became a 3-0 win.

Then I got to play the boss in the semi final, the top seed in my group yesterday, 12 year old kid who I've beaten a few times but who I suspect is beyond me now. I actually had a close match with him yesterday that went 3-2. Today I tried to hit powerful backhands but my inconsistency and his control and openings were having none of it. He also knows how to hit my forehand to change the rally. Lost 0-3 with no really close games, I suspect if I played more than once a week or once every two weeks I might do better but I lack the confidence and sharpness to play that kind of player straight up and expect a different result especially in this humid club.

Third place match was against another kid, who had improved quite a bit and beaten some really strong players - he practices a lot with the boss, and it has clearly improved his game. It was really funny, I served my first two serves into the net to start the match. But I stuck to the backhand strategy and it paid dividends. I went down 1-4 or 1-5 but came back to win 11-8. And then as crazy as it sounds, I also went down 0-4 in the next game with some bad serves and weird points. But I managed to turn that game around as well and win it. So it was really funny in game 3 when I actually played well enough to stay even, got a lead at 8-5 and then lost the next 5 points to make it 8-10. Won the next point when my opponent looped off the table one of my weak pushes, but then lost the next point as he smash killed a similar push popup to his short backhand with a pivot forehand. Thankfully I managed to win the 4th game with steadier play and more pushes, pushes I can only get away with for now because these kids mostly play people who do not open on the backhand.

Choppy weekend of play but okay exercise, need some R&R. It's a bit unfortunate that I am going to have to accept this level drop until I can find a decent place to train and a serious practice partner less than 40 miles away. Life is like that.
 
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I think there is good coordination of the whole body and nice wide stance

Personally I think the arm looks a bit stiff, the grip is not enough FH. I prefer to open the wrist more so I can make a small move with it at impact to add more spin.

I think you could try also to be more on your toes to feel more leg power .

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Absolutely! You could be a coach Takkyu, because those are exactly the things I'm working on right now haha! As you know, it's tough to work on so many things at the same time, so I figured to get the base of the form right first. Stance, hip rotation driving the motion, body and arm relaxed except for one little snap at the end. I'm at a point where I feel that not moving enough is really starting to interfere with further progression, as the form starts breaking down when the ball is a bit outside of my hit zone, so I'm definitely adding that next.

In fact, in that very coaching session the last few minutes was spent on 3/4 table FH shots, just one at a time (i.e. with a few seconds of break between each shot), but ensuring that I stayed on my toes in between shots in my ready stance and that I moved appropriately before each shot. I'm a big fan of doing that in all practices, but movement and backswing are integrated together, so I wanted to make sure I can backswing correctly first before adding movement to it. I actually tried it out a bit in today's club session in some FHs vs. block practice, and it worked quite well so I'm certainly gonna be doing a lot more of it!

The opening the wrist thing is totally right too. My coach keeps reminding me to do it, but it's been hard to execute both the lower body motion correctly as well as the upper body. My plan was to first get the activation sequence right. In that video I started feeling comfortable with my hip/waist motion so I was working on adding the correct arm relaxation and snap. In particular, one of my big issues before was that I was trying to generate both forward hitting and upward brushing with my forearm snap. I think this is due to trying to generate power with my arm. Now I'm allowing the hip rotation to generate the forward momentum while my forearm snap is primarily to generate spin. Next up I'll work on extend my arm out a bit more from my body and opening up my wrist more.
 
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I played a Giant RR this weekend - 8 matches yesterday (Saturday), 6 matches today (Sunday). Went 6-2 yesterday, losing 2-3 to two kids. the last match, against the better kid, taught me a couple of things that I thought I might take into today. Basically, since my coach is not around and I can't train much anymore since there are no clubs close by, I am regressing back into my old spin style and that might be the best I can do. But the spin style is still effective but against certain players.

Today, because I went 6-2 yesterday, I was a 3rd seed in my group but the highest rated player (only one two top seeds won their groups, I was in a group with a top seed that was not the top seed from the prelim round). I played the top seed and won a close match 3-2, 11- 9 in the 5th. He is a Seemiller style hitter and sidespinner with anti on the backhand and he blocks well enough to cause many loopers problems. I used to beat him easily in the past but his block consistency and serves have gotten better. I couldn't even p[lay though lets in this match and had to call them, it was that tight lol.

I then played a pips out guy I had played many times before and usually he wins a game off me. I was hoping today would be different but no, he won the first game 11-5 after I was up 4-0 and then goes up in game 2 like 5-1 or something ridiculous if not that. I just tried to claw my way through it because going down 0-2 would have put a lot of pressure on my preferred approach to playing pips which is to attack serves, hits and chop blocks with spin drives and to only push when consistency is absolutely required. The heavens smilled upon me as I managed to come back to win the second game 11-9, won the third game 11-3, but then got caught up and even had a deuce in game 4. But I won 12-10 with a good over the table topspin that was made possible by my extra long arms.

Last match was against a lefty. If I won, I would top the group. IF I lost, there would be a 3 way tie for first and I would almost definitely advance second as the Seemiller blocker had beaten my opponent 3-0 already, I experienced a similar situation about a couple of weeks ago at a tournament at this same club so I was determined not to let it happen again. I played a lefty I had played before and beaten easily when I played him prior. I learned the importance of having observers and how it can make a difference to have a match coach. His match coach told him quite simply to stop playing wide with his serves and to serve more into my middle. After losing the first game 11-4, he lost the second game 11-9. And a combination of some good play and my frustration got him the next two games at 11-8 and 11-9. I then went into defensive lockdown mode and won the last game. But some food for thought for future matches. I do have a playing partner who is a lefty who does this to me sometimes too with a different serve and I usually move to use the forehand but today I was lazy because of exhaustion from the previous day.

In the next round quarterfinal, I play a kid I had lost to the prior day. The main thing that cost me points was bad serve return. I would push his side top serves, or try to attack them hard and then loop the ball off the table or pop them up for third ball kills. And then sometimes, I would push decently into his backhand but he had a pivot to loop the ball inside point into my backhand and he hit some insane shots and was also consistent. Today I developed a different game plan. I decided to roll almost every serve into his backhand and just put pressure on his backhand with mine and challenge him to either pivot to break the pressure or figure out how to rally backhand to backhand against my consistent topspin. There was absolutely no mystery what I was doing or where the ball was going. I just was tired of having to pretend that I needed to run around and hit forehands and just reverted to my old 1800 game of serve to backhand with backhand, loop to backhand with backhand, raise spin and speed if their backhand is not better than mine and if you cannot put the ball on my forehand, I will break you. It worked surprisingly well, A 2-3 loss became a 3-0 win.

Then I got to play the boss in the semi final, the top seed in my group yesterday, 12 year old kid who I've beaten a few times but who I suspect is beyond me now. I actually had a close match with him yesterday that went 3-2. Today I tried to hit powerful backhands but my inconsistency and his control and openings were having none of it. He also knows how to hit my forehand to change the rally. Lost 0-3 with no really close games, I suspect if I played more than once a week or once every two weeks I might do better but I lack the confidence and sharpness to play that kind of player straight up and expect a different result especially in this humid club.

Third place match was against another kid, who had improved quite a bit and beaten some really strong players - he practices a lot with the boss, and it has clearly improved his game. It was really funny, I served my first two serves into the net to start the match. But I stuck to the backhand strategy and it paid dividends. I went down 1-4 or 1-5 but came back to win 11-8. And then as crazy as it sounds, I also went down 0-4 in the next game with some bad serves and weird points. But I managed to turn that game around as well and win it. So it was really funny in game 3 when I actually played well enough to stay even, got a lead at 8-5 and then lost the next 5 points to make it 8-10. Won the next point when my opponent looped off the table one of my weak pushes, but then lost the next point as he smash killed a similar push popup to his short backhand with a pivot forehand. Thankfully I managed to win the 4th game with steadier play and more pushes, pushes I can only get away with for now because these kids mostly play people who do not open on the backhand.

Choppy weekend of play but okay exercise, need some R&R. It's a bit unfortunate that I am going to have to accept this level drop until I can find a decent place to train and a serious practice partner less than 40 miles away. Life is like that.
So the club i played the event at streams most of its events. So there is some video. I often hate watching myself on video these days because I look even straighter than I feel after the first match. But some of the shots are on video. Here is one:
 
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Monday night I decided to play with my Korbel. It's been a few weeks getting used to the fast and heavy Pro 01, so time to get a feeling for my main setup again and tally up the results.

I'm surprised how much of a difference it really is. I felt very safe executing loose shots, and precise placement was extremely easy.
Yes, I clearly trade away power and quick shots without effort. But playing loose and relaxed is important also from an injury perspective.
Guess I gotta do some more comparison to see which compromise I end up picking.
 
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So the club i played the event at streams most of its events. So there is some video. I often hate watching myself on video these days because I look even straighter than I feel after the first match. But some of the shots are on video. Here is one:

May I ask what the ratings were of the guys you played in that video?

Kudos to you for remaining calm but firm over that initial contentious let call, despite your opponent tending toward aggro - and then taking time after that set for a change of shirt to allow his adrenaline to wane.
 
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Some training footage from Broward TTC’s Summer Camp with Thiago Monteiro and Robert Gardos
 
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Went to play last night after a bad mental day. Noticed I just couldn't plan much in terms of tactics, and I was playing predominantly reactive. Which is fine for the night, so I just went with it.
Tried to focus on relaxing and only tightening up for the contact, then releasing the tension asap. As well as drilling myself to walk first, swing second. Those two combined really bring up the quality of my game.

I also played both the Pro 01 and Korbel (same rubbers still) and I'm still not sure what I like best. Might just use either one based on the opponent... But ultimately I want one blade.
I did find that the relaxed play makes it easy to pick up a different blade and just get on with it.

Bit of a ramble, but my head is still not that well.
 
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More fun from Broward Table Tennis Club’s Training Camp with Coaches Thiago Monteiro and Robert Gardos!

Myself and a player doing various drills.


Multi-ball training with Robert Gardos.

 
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I spent more money on blades and I have concluded that the modern Korbel is the Harimoto ALC or SALC. The blade feels extremely slow and controlled to me compared to what I usually play with (Viscaria SALC) LOL. I still have to do more with it but I am comfortable recommending it to a player who wants to play a spin game with a very controllable blade. It's probably not linear but so far it just oozes control. But maybe I will change my mind with more time at the table.

I had exams last week so I didnt play. But it is a class I am likely not going to pass anyway so I will likely have to retake it but with the benefit of having seen the difficult material already which I think will help with a better grade. Life isnt always on your own schedule.

I will start offering free coaching sessions to players. I don't need the money just want good students. I enjoy coaching if I am not able to train and I might get lucky and develop a player worth training with.
 
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I'm realizing that I keep finding myself relearning the basics over the past 1,5 years. And that isn't bad, it means I keep trying to improve from the bottom up, but at times it's demotivating.
Also, next week is the last before club closes for a month. Don't like that.
 
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Been really busy the past couple of weeks, only got to play in my weekly practice sessions and some very short sessions vs the robot mostly to try out some fine tuning of my technique. With that said, a recent video I watched has just solved my last remaining conundrum with my FH form!

This is the video, it's not the index finger thing, but the clapping the hand thing he talks about at the 7 minute mark. He was talking about the wrist, but my Ah-Ha moment came when I realized what he was doing with his shoulder at the ~8:25. Basically, I've been transferring all my activation sequence energy to my chest to draw in my arm and subsequently my arm to flex my forearm. What I should have been doing is transferring it to my shoulder so it can internally rotate. This is exactly like my recent changes to my BH side, when I started using external rotation of the shoulder to generate power instead of relying on arm extension.

In short, my motion was like doing a hammer curl before, but now I'm making it more like a slap or closing a door. @Takkyu_wa_inochi noted that I needed to open up my wrist more, and in that YT video the coach also focused on the wrist. I tried that and it did in fact help, but the root of the problem is actually in my shoulder use. Once I fixed the shoulder use, the wrist naturally opened up as it gets dragged forward during thf forward stroke.

I think with this fix, I just need to do some fine tuning with my stroke and my FH transformation will be complete! Quite exciting!
 
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Gozo: The Sleeper Unker(tm) built for TT. Only above fifties need apply. Below = auto disqualified!
1. flabby underarms coz who needs tricep in TT? Be serious!
2. Well rounded mid for the tight core during FH drive.
3. Glutes, Quads and Calves of steel. Skip leg days? Never!

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