Donic Ovtcharov Original No.1 / Senso comparison

[Haito]

Sup,
I recently picked up the non-senso version of Donic Ovtcharov No.1 (signed by Dima) at a charity auction. Few players asked me how the blades compare. The short answer is they don't. The non-senso version is the same but worse in every aspect. The difference is minimal but it is present. As you can see on the photo the non-senso version is barely used while Senso version is battle-worn. The Senso just feels better and provides more feeling. If you can pick up the non-senso version for 50€ then go for it. Great blade for the price. If I had to pick between used Senso vs new non-senso I would pick the usedand dinged Senso (and that is what I did...).

PS: The non-senso also has been sealed (to preserve the signature) while the Senso is not. I doubt this makes measurable difference though.

 

[WingTT]

So perhaps like the difference between Long V and Fang Bo B2?

 

[Haito]

Kind of sort of. A lot of people claim it's more like W968 and Long V. I've had Bo B2 blade in my hands for a while and I think that Long V is much better in terms of feel. The gap is much bigger. As I said in the Original Post, "The difference is minimal but it is present". Senso is better if you can get it, it is not something to cry about though. The weight distribution is much different too.

 

[arietanke]

Kind of sort of. A lot of people claim it's more like W968 and Long V. I've had Bo B2 blade in my hands for a while and I think that Long V is much better in terms of feel. The gap is much bigger. As I said in the Original Post, "The difference is minimal but it is present". Senso is better if you can get it, it is not something to cry about though. The weight distribution is much different too.

Can you explain more detailed what's the difference between Long V and Bo b2 please?

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[Shifu]

Fang Bo Carbon feels a bit stiffer but especially harder. The ball leaves the racket very soon, HL5 is slightly softer with the feeling that the ball stays longer in the racket.

 

[Konrad Bak]

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[sviataslau]

No. 1 Senso is a great blade in all aspects, though, it has quality control issues which shouldn't be there for that price.

I have two of them and both have warping issues out of the box (one is like 5mm and another one is 1-2mm). Both came from different sources and revisions, one bough used, another one is new. It may be caused by inappropriate storage, but still, the coincidence is quite unfortunate and I would recommend checking your blades when buying. It also might be a gluing method they use, for example, AFAIK hide glue tends to cause warping in humid conditions.

This might not affect the way how they play, at least on our level. I successfully played with the first one for over a year and now using the second one.
Also, although they have the identical weight of 85gr and the same ST handle, they play a little bit differently, the second one is noticeably harder. The overall feeling is still quite soft, though.

And the spin and control you get with the blade are unbelievable.

 

[sebi]

has somebody tested the blade and can compare it to the butterfly ovcharov or donic jo waldner senso?

 

[mightymouse]

Long time ago, when Dima was still using the Ovtcharov No. 1 Senso (now they scratch Ovtcharov name and replace it with "original"), I had a chance to inspect both the No. 1 and normal one (no senso version) in a TT store.

Both of them are ugly in term of quality, especially the normal one. No. 1 is better built, but still, I think for the price offered, the built quality did not show it. The FL is also slim. I heard from the store owner that it is not made by Donic, but made in China (DHS factory, probably).

I am not sure about their performance though. I only tried HLong 5 once that belongs to my friend.

The built quality of Andro Synteliac VCI Off and Donic JO Waldner Gold Edition are much better and cheaper also.

 

[mamedium]

how does Andro Synteliac VCI play? comparing to Long V?

 

[mightymouse]

how does Andro Synteliac VCI play? comparing to Long V?

If your are asking me, then I am sorry that I can't tell you anything.

First, I have tried HLong 5 from my friend for just 3 - 5 minutes and can't really tell anything special about it. Probably because of the different rubbers on it.

Second, I inspected Andro Synteliac VCI Off and I recognized the better built quality (compared to Donic Original Senso No. 1) but I have not tried it at all.

 

[mamedium]

can anyone compare the Donic Original No1 Senso and Long V?

 

[sebi]

can anyone compare the Donic Original No1 Senso and Long V?

Should be the same blade, with different grip coulores.
Apparently they get the blade from DHS and change the handle.

 

[mamedium]

Should be the same blade, with different grip coulores.
Apparently they get the blade from DHS and change the handle.

thanks - did you play with both blades?

 

[sebi]

thanks - did you play with both blades?

No unfortunately not.

 

[Wrighty67]

Should be the same blade, with different grip coulores.
Apparently they get the blade from DHS and change the handle.

They play very differently in my experience - I have had HL5 and HL5X and 968 but also still have an original senso. The structure is similar but the feel is very different, the Senso is faster and more lively and it's a very dynamic blade to use and is certainly harder to control than an HL5. Despite them apparently being based on the same blade the senso is closer to the 968 than an HL5.

 

[sebi]

They play very differently in my experience - I have had HL5 and HL5X and 968 but also still have an original senso. The structure is similar but the feel is very different, the Senso is faster and more lively and it's a very dynamic blade to use and is certainly harder to control than an HL5. Despite them apparently being based on the same blade the senso is closer to the 968 than an HL5.

Hmm sounds like a great thing to me.
Closer to 968 = closer to holy grail

 

[deepanmania]

Is the Original No. 1 Senso comparable with the Ovtcharov Innerforce Alc?

 

[sebi]

Is the Original No. 1 Senso comparable with the Ovtcharov Innerforce Alc?

Ovtcharov is faster, and the handle is a lot thicker. WHen you hit trough the blade the arc is a little lower

 

[mamedium]

Ovtcharov is faster, and the handle is a lot thicker. WHen you hit trough the blade the arc is a little lower

oh did you play with both Senso and Dima ALC?