Calderano Signs with Joola (#139)

[Novarac23]

Very plausible theory, just need some receipts. Joola's desperation would be a good sign for table tennis to be honest, I thought they were just going through the motions and doing nothing of substance and banking on pickleball.

To be fair, as someone who does not play pickleball but goes to a club that’s surrounded by pickleball courts, I understand why they are focusing on it. It’s insanely packed every single time I go. Of course this is in the context of US market, I know its not big in other parts of the world (or as big).

 

[Chang]

My theory is that Joola is simply desperate. Just look at the names of their new hugo rubbers. So they decided to grab the best non-Chinese tt player money could buy to revive sales and Hugo thought, life is short, the money is too good, all ESN rubbers are basically the same, the blade will be made by the same Korean manufacturer (possibly Nexy), so why not.

Well, having your own rubbers immediately with your name seems strange to me. I am missing some development, I am missing some story (may come, but I doubt that since he had success playing with C55, not any Joola prototype). Seems like only marketing.

There are not many players, if more than a few, whose names are on the rubber. Even Kenta Matsudaira on Tibhar MK is subtle and not completely transparent on rubbers.

 

[Zezima]

hopefully just not to butterfly we need more competition.

 

[Zezima]

also not the appropiate thread but why has noone made a website like revspin with all the different blades and rubbers with factual data instead of reviews like for blades: x ply and the composition thickness etc. so you can easily filter through and see which blades have the same composition etc. Right now it takes a lot of time researching those stuff. Same with rubbers. 80% of the rubbers especially in the 47° range feel the same and there might be only subtle differences where 10 people say different things. Having factual data that also rates the hardness of topsheet, durability based on playtime etc.. Would be good to find the appropriate rubber aswell no?

Only thing that comes to my mind is there is no standards applied between different brands so it would be hard to compare them?

If this is too offtopic ignore my comment

 

[vvk1]

also not the appropiate thread but why has noone made a website like revspin with all the different blades and rubbers with factual data instead of reviews like for blades: x ply and the composition thickness etc. so you can easily filter through and see which blades have the same composition etc. Right now it takes a lot of time researching those stuff. Same with rubbers. 80% of the rubbers especially in the 47° range feel the same and there might be only subtle differences where 10 people say different things. Having factual data that also rates the hardness of topsheet, durability based on playtime etc.. Would be good to find the appropriate rubber aswell no?

Only thing that comes to my mind is there is no standards applied between different brands so it would be hard to compare them?

If this is too offtopic ignore my comment

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[The0rigina1]

My theory is that Joola is simply desperate. Just look at the names of their new hugo rubbers. So they decided to grab the best non-Chinese tt player money could buy to revive sales and Hugo thought, life is short, the money is too good, all ESN rubbers are basically the same, the blade will be made by the same Korean manufacturer (possibly Nexy), so why not.

"Basically the same" is a wild claim

 

[Tyce]

"Basically the same" is a wild claim

Not really. It's a claim that's been made for decades and quite reasonable given past results. That's what happens when only one factory makes the rubbers for all Western brands.

 

[TampaBayTableTennis]

JOOLA brought pickleball money to a ping pong fight

 

[The0rigina1]

Not really. It's a claim that's been made for decades and quite reasonable given past results. That's what happens when only one factory makes the rubbers for all Western brands.

Sponge thickness, sponge density, pips length, pips density, pips shape all play a different role. Just because some brands get lazy and don't do much R&D and straight up copy other company's homework doesn't mean all ESN rubbers are the same

 

[Chang]

 

[joshmak10]

When Joola’s last big star was ZQH, getting Hugo is like winning the lottery

 

[Robin0910]

When Joola’s last big star was ZQH, getting Hugo is like winning the lottery

More like having enough funds

 

[Robin0910]

Time to change to title to

Calderano in Talks with Joola?​

 

[joshmak10]

More like having enough funds

Buy more tickets, win the biggest prize

 

[JackJohnson]

Well, having your own rubbers immediately with your name seems strange to me. I am missing some development, I am missing some story (may come, but I doubt that since he had success playing with C55, not any Joola prototype). Seems like only marketing.

There are not many players, if more than a few, whose names are on the rubber. Even Kenta Matsudaira on Tibhar MK is subtle and not completely transparent on rubbers.

I wonder how much Joola paid to the point where even Hugo got his rubbers named after him and it’s not subtle too “Hugo Calderano”.

Anyone got any estimates?

 

[NextLevel]

"Basically the same" is a wild claim

Your point is conceptually true but ignores practical reality. Even if a brand is innovative, it is hard for them to retain enough creative control that other ESN brands cannot duplicate the innovation. As already pointed out, sharing the same.factory makes such sharing inevitable. ESN rubbers, especially with respect to ESN innovations which underlie all rubbers, tend to have similar generational elements across all rubbers made in the same time period. While some design changes make things nuanced, on the whole, enough of the value can be captured in the broad generational recipe to make each manufacturer have an equivalent of what other manufacturers are doing.

I struggle to think of an ESN rubber whose flagship performance for one brand hasn't been duplicated to some degree by some other brand. If you can mention a few, then your claim will be taken more seriously.

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Hugo is going to a TT brand that gives their product tongue-twister names. Try to say Mxyzptlk.

Yeah, that is how I feel when I try to pronounce Joola's product.

 

[zeio]

Thread titled changed from "Calderano in Talks with DHS and Butterfly?" to "Calderano Signs with Joola (#139)".

 

[Oliverpool]

Hugo is going to a TT brand that gives their product tongue-twister names. Try to say Mxyzptlk.

Yeah, that is how I feel when I try to pronounce Joola's product.

They could have used something simplier
Like HC3 or HC 03. 3 seems to be a popular number. I know it sounds like life in Cantonese. But JOOLA could spin it and say. The new hurricane is here from Brazil! The HC3 and not get into any trouble with DHS

 

[Angerer]

Was expecting him to join ANDRO to accompany fellow Bruna and Simon