Backhand modern weight transfer technique: loading on dominant leg. What do you think or prefer?

[Lazer]

This will not be difficult to achieve my friend, but hey, when in need, all beer is beer hahaha

Correct, the Dortmunder export type is the most blend of them all...

For the hot summer nights a Swickl preferable from Mulln in Salzburg...
For Lagers a Bernard (Chech) from Tap.
For Ales I like La Trappe quadrupel (Trappist).
And that's just the beginning...

Cheers
L-zr

 

[victormanriquey]

Correct, the Dortmunder export type is the most blend of them all...

For the hot summer nights a Swickl preferable from Mulln in Salzburg...
For Lagers a Bernard (Chech) from Tap.
For Ales I like La Trappe quadrupel (Trappist).
And that's just the beginning...

Have you considered being a beer coach? I would buy We leave the topic for another time not to pollute this thread but i very much enjoyed this message @Lazerjust wanted to say that ❤️

 

[Lazer]

Have you considered being a beer coach? I would buy We leave the topic for another time not to pollute this thread but i very much enjoyed this message @Lazerjust wanted to say that ❤️

No, but I used to brew my own...
Enough pollution now...

Cheers
L-zr

 

[blahness]

Back to the topic, I also used to ponder this question but do we really have to choose one?

If the ball is to your left and closer to your left hip, your upper body will be closer to your left foot, hence a left to right weight shift is the most ideal.

Say if the ball is a deep jamming one to your right hip? To do the left to right weight shift means you have to move to the right significantly which is costly in terms of both time and positioning (after moving to the right it is much harder to cover wide BH and also transition to the FH). It is far easier to simply push off your right leg directly so that you take the ball earlier (ie optimal).

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

As I play mostly near the table there are many details to improve and more important.

My own experience is that contrarily to FH where there is a clear weight transfer from dominant to the other leg, for BH I just need to load leg power like I’m pushing the ground
Usually it’s on both legs at the same time, but Chiquita it can be single leg (usually right but if the ball curves to the left then left). But there is no need to “transfer” it to the other leg. Most important is to try to keep upper body stable leaning forward and not go up too much.

Farther to the table if I have time or power then I will use more waist, and sometimes do the symmetrical thing then FH . Left leg behind pushes and transfer weight to right leg. It depends how I’m positioned.

 

[victormanriquey]

do we really have to choose one?

Not really but it has helped me focus my technique in let's say 80% of the standard situations

If the ball is to your left and closer to your left hip, your upper body will be closer to your left foot, hence a left to right weight shift is the most ideal.

Yes I agree here, sometimes footwork is not enough to get into the right position, plus as amateurs our footwork is not always topnotch, in this case it makes a lot of sense what you say here.

Say if the ball is a deep jamming one to your right hip? To do the left to right weight shift means you have to move to the right significantly which is costly in terms of both time and positioning (after moving to the right it is much harder to cover wide BH and also transition to the FH). It is far easier to simply push off your right leg directly so that you take the ball earlier (ie optimal).

And this is correct too

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I think overall, for me the key is to have a framework in my mind so that most of the balls I play the same and in autopilot. We haven't talked about the wrist here, but that's also very important to try to always do the same motion, in my case letting the wrist drop and doing the 'sword drawing' motion has helped a lot too.

But yes, in cases where footwork doesnt reach, then the above mentioned is all correct @blahness

 

[victormanriquey]

My own experience is that contrarily to FH where there is a clear weight transfer from dominant to the other leg, for BH I just need to load leg power like I’m pushing the ground
Usually it’s on both legs at the same time, but Chiquita it can be single leg (usually right but if the ball curves to the left then left). But there is no need to “transfer” it to the other leg. Most important is to try to keep upper body stable leaning forward and not go up too much.

So here you refer to a more core-based motion from what I can understand? So probably more like anders lind explains or different @Takkyu_wa_inochi ? Yes chiquita has more weight on the dominant leg for me always, otherwise I don't get the right feel for it.

By the way, the transfer I talk about (inwards / forward) is indeed not as big as with FH, it's maybe 20-30% of what the FH would be, much more subtle and wrist often matters more.

Farther to the table if I have time or power then I will use more waist, and sometimes do the symmetrical thing then FH . Left leg behind pushes and transfer weight to right leg. It depends how I’m positioned.

Yep so more left to right or what @blahness meant if you are out of position

 

[Takkyu_wa_inochi]

i tried to write it with my words but others probably explained much better indeed

 

[victormanriquey]

i tried to write it with my words but others probably explained much better indeed

Always hard to explain without images / videos no worries I think I get it

 

[Lula]

I think everyone do a bit differently, as long as the quality is good but in general:
Push from the ground with legs and maybe belly out then forearm if you have little time or if the ball comes deep but mostly arm.
If the ball comes slow and not so deep i think people tend to try to use the body more since they need to get more power. If the ball comes deep we can borrow the power. So here i think some players try to go from the left to the right with the weight. I feel like chinese coaches seem to teach this but i also feel like Ma Long and Harimoto seem to push much more from the right leg.

 

[banbekas]

I'd say mine is the modern one all things considered.

At least I think so

 

[NextLevel]

I'd say mine is the modern one all things considered.

At least I think so

Video not available.

 

[banbekas]

Video not available.

Should be okay now. Sorry for the low quality.

 

[victormanriquey]

So here i think some players try to go from the left to the right with the weight. I feel like chinese coaches seem to teach this but i also feel like Ma Long and Harimoto seem to push much more from the right leg.

Yep this is what you see nowadays in pros indeed, many are changing to pushing from right leg, but most people I know of and coach are still more comfortable with left to right in the majority of stroke situations

 

[victormanriquey]

Should be okay now. Sorry for the low quality.

Backhand is for the people with slow feet xD

 

[Gozo Zyreruna]

Backhand is for the people with slow feet xD

FH only are for those still
living in fantasy / nostalgia 38mm
era...

 

[victormanriquey]

FH only are for those still
living in fantasy / nostalgia 38mm
era...

I know It was a joke from the video the user posted above hahaha

 

[banbekas]

Backhand is for the people with slow feet xD

Agreed XD
Tho you kinda underestimated me. My feet aren't slow, they are nailed.

 

[victormanriquey]

Agreed XD
Tho you kinda underestimated me. My feet aren't slow, they are nailed.

You could also argue that you 'nailed' your FH hahahaha

 

[banbekas]

You could also argue that you 'nailed' your FH hahahaha

I didn't use FH tho. It was pure backhand. Ah, you thought I was the one in front of camera?

I was the one in red shirt, serving. Lol. We were lost in translation.